The hack that can save pre-release version of Dyson V16

[Absolute Rainbow]

@shattered @Vacuum Facts

As @Vacuum Facts has tested and noticed, the preliminary release of Dyson V16 has utterly pitiful performance, Auto mode actually worse than even Dreame Z30 and the overall performance dropped to about half of that of Gen5. This is due to the Hyperdymium 900 W motor operating at mere 450 W. No, really, but there's a hack that actually fix that motor sensitivity and let the motor unleash itself, so the vacuum can perform as admirably as it's supposed to be (i.e. at least on the level of Gen5).

Can you tell us what's the hack that fix the pre-release V16 and turn it back into a true main-equivalent it's supposed to be?

 

[shattered]

Maybe Dyson did that cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to push it on carpets

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

Maybe Dyson did that cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to push it on carpets

I dunno, but what's the hack anyways?

Also tell @Vacuum Facts

 

[Vacuum Facts]

The reason I'm not discussing any of this is because most of the 'major reviewers' haven't reviewed it yet and I don't want any of them copying off me. They'll have to figure it out themselves from the basic science available. I'm posting my review last this time.

The best thing people can do for now is complain to Dyson it doesn't clean as well.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

The reason I'm not discussing any of this is because most of the 'major reviewers' haven't reviewed it yet and I don't want any of them copying off me. They'll have to figure it out themselves from the basic science available. I'm posting my review last this time.

The best thing people can do for now is complain to Dyson it doesn't clean as well.

Unfortunately, community.dyson.com is completely offline. No choice but to bring the matter to social media - oh wait, you're currently putting your review on hold!

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

@Vacuum Facts, please tell us about the hack!

 

[cheesewonton]

Maybe Dyson did that cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to push it on carpets

It wasn't that long ago that you could buy a 2200 watt canister vacuum in Europe and people didn't have any problems pushing the nozzles of those on rugs or carpets. In Japan you can buy insanely powerful corded power nozzle canister vacuums that are easy to push on rugs and carpets. They have openings to let some air in under the nose of the nozzle so they don't latch. My hardworking old Panasonic MC-PA20W converted to use a modern G series power nozzle will lift a bathroom rug off the floor if I lift the nozzle straight up but I can push it along effortlessly.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

Maybe Dyson did that cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to push it on carpets

It wasn't that long ago that you could buy a 2200 watt canister vacuum in Europe and people didn't have any problems pushing the nozzles of those on rugs or carpets. In Japan you can buy insanely powerful corded power nozzle canister vacuums that are easy to push on rugs and carpets. They have openings to let some air in under the nose of the nozzle so they don't latch. My hardworking old Panasonic MC-PA20W converted to use a modern G series power nozzle will lift a bathroom rug off the floor if I lift the nozzle straight up but I can push it along effortlessly.

@Vacuum Facts did Dyson deliberately make the mistake to reduce clamping and increase battery life? Either way, that ultimately explains why the V16 performed so poorly out of the box, at least in its debut.

The rest of the V16 however is amazing, I just need @Vacuum Facts to tell us the hack that fixes the machine. This is scummy on Dyson's part.

 

[cheesewonton]

Exactly and thats the thing! Wheres the point in having a 2000W when you can't even use it and have to create openings in head to lose suction/power?
Isn't it a bit of a waste?

Maybe try using one and find out. If you have never used these kinds of vacuums you have no basis of comparison with which to make an informed opinion.

Fact is power nozzles have been latching onto carpets from the very beginning. The very first power nozzle from Lewyt way back in 1957 has that problem on a much less powerful vacuum. They had to add wheels on the nose of the power nozzle so it didn't latch. Old Filter Queens and Eurekas had that problem too and the solution was to drill a line of 3/16 inch holes along the nose of the nozzle base to let a little air underneath. These were 8 to 9 amp vacuum with old fashioned motors. Nothing like you find on a modern corded power nozzle. I have this equipment in my collection and use it. How about you? What is your experience with these older vacuums?

Around 2015 or so Panasonic came out with a power nozzle for use by Kenmore and Cen-Tec central vacuums that has an air bypass system. There are reed valves behind vents on the top of the nozzle. If it starts to latch, the reeds open and let some outside air get under the nose of the nozzle. Kenmore calls this the Ultra Plush Nozzle. Cen-Tec sells it as the CT-25QD. It is also sold with the Titan T9500 canister vacuum. Panasonic designed it for the needs of owners with these soft, plush deep pile carpets that bog down many power nozzles and uprights. It glides over any carpet effortlessly yet it cleans as well as any other power nozzle I have used. No need to turn the power down and sacrifice cleaning power so you can push the nozzle.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

Maybe try using one and find out. If you have never used these kinds of vacuums you have no basis of comparison with which to make an informed opinion.

Fact is power nozzles have been latching onto carpets from the very beginning. The very first power nozzle from Lewyt way back in 1957 has that problem on a much less powerful vacuum. They had to add wheels on the nose of the power nozzle so it didn't latch. Old Filter Queens and Eurekas had that problem too and the solution was to drill a line of 3/16 inch holes along the nose of the nozzle base to let a little air underneath. These were 8 to 9 amp vacuum with old fashioned motors. Nothing like you find on a modern corded power nozzle. I have this equipment in my collection and use it. How about you? What is your experience with these older vacuums?

Around 2015 or so Panasonic came out with a power nozzle for use by Kenmore and Cen-Tec central vacuums that has an air bypass system. There are reed valves behind vents on the top of the nozzle. If it starts to latch, the reeds open and let some outside air get under the nose of the nozzle. Kenmore calls this the Ultra Plush Nozzle. Cen-Tec sells it as the CT-25QD. It is also sold with the Titan T9500 canister vacuum. Panasonic designed it for the needs of owners with these soft, plush deep pile carpets that bog down many power nozzles and uprights. It glides over any carpet effortlessly yet it cleans as well as any other power nozzle I have used. No need to turn the power down and sacrifice cleaning power so you can push the nozzle.

@Vacuum Facts did Dyson try these vented nozzles @cheesewonton described?

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

This is just wrong

Clamping is not an issue here, @Vacuum Facts?

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

Maybe try using one and find out. If you have never used these kinds of vacuums you have no basis of comparison with which to make an informed opinion.

Fact is power nozzles have been latching onto carpets from the very beginning. The very first power nozzle from Lewyt way back in 1957 has that problem on a much less powerful vacuum. They had to add wheels on the nose of the power nozzle so it didn't latch. Old Filter Queens and Eurekas had that problem too and the solution was to drill a line of 3/16 inch holes along the nose of the nozzle base to let a little air underneath. These were 8 to 9 amp vacuum with old fashioned motors. Nothing like you find on a modern corded power nozzle. I have this equipment in my collection and use it. How about you? What is your experience with these older vacuums?

Around 2015 or so Panasonic came out with a power nozzle for use by Kenmore and Cen-Tec central vacuums that has an air bypass system. There are reed valves behind vents on the top of the nozzle. If it starts to latch, the reeds open and let some outside air get under the nose of the nozzle. Kenmore calls this the Ultra Plush Nozzle. Cen-Tec sells it as the CT-25QD. It is also sold with the Titan T9500 canister vacuum. Panasonic designed it for the needs of owners with these soft, plush deep pile carpets that bog down many power nozzles and uprights. It glides over any carpet effortlessly yet it cleans as well as any other power nozzle I have used. No need to turn the power down and sacrifice cleaning power so you can push the nozzle.

@cheesewonton you meant this?

@Vacuum Facts did Dyson try these vented nozzles @cheesewonton described?

Any questions? Also, back to topic: @Vacuum Facts which hack do we need?

 

[huskyvacs]

Yet another sockpuppet account Vacuum Facts made to talk to himself with. Seriously ban this person already.

 

[vac14012]

Yet another sockpuppet account Vacuum Facts made to talk to himself with. Seriously ban this person already.

There's no reason to ban someone for having a different opinion than you. Please grow up and just ignore posts you don't like.

At the end of the day this is a forum about vacuum cleaners of all things. It's not that serious.

All I've seen is you harass this VacuumFacts user cause he likes Dyson vacuums. Unnecessary behavior.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

There's no reason to ban someone for having a different opinion than you. Please grow up and just ignore posts you don't like.

At the end of the day this is a forum about vacuum cleaners of all things. It's not that serious.

All I've seen is you harass this VacuumFacts user cause he likes Dyson vacuums. Unnecessary behavior.

I 100% agree with you. He is also very objective, unlike the majority of the reviewers and journalists. I trust him, and do not force me (or anyone for that matter) to stop trusting him.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

I made this thread to discuss about the hack needed to fix (the initial batch of) Dyson V16, so I expect Vacuum Facts and friends to be useful. Where are they now? ._.

 

[Rocketman]

Absolute Rainbow & vac14012

I agree with you both, I find Vacuum Facts very informative, knowledgeable, objective, scientifically inclined, and trustworthy. He is primarily the reason why I am still inlined to keeping my V16, even though I have still unopened it and is within return window.

 

[cheesewonton]

Absolute Rainbow & vac14012

I agree with you both, I find Vacuum Facts very informative, knowledgeable, objective, scientifically inclined, and trustworthy. He is primarily the reason why I am still inlined to keeping my V16, even though I have still unopened it and is within return window.

Eh, he has no hands on experience with high quality vacuums. He doesn't even know what a really good vacuum can do. All he knows are bagless things made with shiny hard squeaky brittle plastic that doesn't hold up for decades. We have people here that have been repairing and selling vacuums for decades, in some cases for many years before this vacuum facts dude was even born. This kid has no hands on with high end machines from manufacturers like Sebo, Lindhaus, Miele, old Swedish Electroluxes, old or modern Aerus / Electrolux vacuums, or some heavy duty commercial vacuums from Hoover, Titan, Cirrus, Carpet Pro, Tornado, CleanMax, etc. He has no basis of comparison because he has never used a great vacuum in his life. And this is something I see on other social media where people finally toss their Shark or Diesoon for a high end vacuum like the brands mentioned and are amazed at the difference. vacuumfacts hasn't had that experience yet and seems scared to death of trying one.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

He is primarily the reason why I am still inlined to keeping my V16, even though I have still unopened it and is within return window.

Incidentally, I love my V16 now. Once you get it right, quite easily, it's better tech than the Gen5. That doesn't let Dyson off the hook BTW. They're still going to get criticised for various decisions, but at least they're correctable.