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Suppose SEBO UK don't know anything about the new Evolution yet as it's just been launched.

Be interesting to see if and when they do retire any old models as both the BS and 370/470 models had new improved cleaner heads didn't they about 2 years ago!?

The Evolution does look like a combination of the best parts from the current models with some new features. I think or my guess is that on/off orange switch next to the brush check light is a brush bar on/off switch. The main power switch looks like it could be located at the back of the handle just below the top cable hook/tidy!? As it's a single motor vacuum if it does have a brush bar on/off switch suppose a clutch setup would be used would you say?

Do like the overall look of the new Evolution great features too. Does the EU directive apply to commercial vacuums I thought I read somewhere commercial vacuums would be different to domestic? SEBO mentions it complies with the new EU directive at 1100 watts. Which it does for this year.
 
That's interesting to hear sebo_fan. I like and other models and something else!

I've now been wondering the last few days if I should hold off getting an X Series at present!?
 
The more I think about it, the more I think that SEBO could easily change the Evolution 300 into another upright vacuum to sit alongside the SEBO X range. A domestic model with variable suction control dial would be perfect I think. Also there doesn't appear to be a motor filter like the older models on the front hood.
 
Great idea and thinking......

SEBO could quite easily do that good thinking there. They could scale down the X series range as well to run along side a newer domestic version of the Evolution. That would be a nice idea if they did do a domestic version of the Evolution! I still think that side on/off switch is for turning the brush bar off with your foot! Time will tell. I was wondering that too. If you take a look on the website of the picture with the bag in the bag housing underneath the bag looks like a cartridge you can remove! Could that be the post motor filter? Being the outlet holes are on the other side? But then again if it's a single motor and the air leaves the bag via the side filter down into the hood, like you say no vents on the hood. Does the air flow go back up and out via the front vent? If you look at the picture of the side view, where it shows the cable connection the air ducts on that side look bigger than the X series! Could this allow for 3 airways? Just a thought...more like a wild silly guest lol! It's got us all thinking that's for sure!
 
Its a nice looking machine - and retains the classic SEBO look. I too think that orange lever on the base is a mechanical belt engager, like the ones found on older Panasonic uprights. I cant imagine that they would put the main motor on/off switch on the side of the floorhead where it would be liable t get knocked during use.


I can see them updating the X series soon, its been running now for 22 years with the last change in 1999 when the X1.1 and  X4 came out. However, I hope they don't ruin an excellent design when updating the domestic X series. The X4 Extra is a hugely successful machine that will be very easily ruined by thoughtless changes. If they freshened up the casing, and added a brushroll stop facility for hard floors, but retained the automatic height computer for carpets, it would be a good upgrade. If they remove the auto height computer in favour of manual adjust like on the G1, that would spoil the X series, as the computerised assist was its biggest plus point.
 
SEBO sadly don't have the money to add in thoughtless changes.

The X sensor should continue for the domestic market - that was after all, why it was designed whilst the manual adjuster was used for commercial markets. The new Evolution could effectively take the space of the old G1/G2 in the UK. SEBO could effectively offer two models - the original sensor X model as you suggest whilst the Evolution 300 with brush roll on/off and manual height adjustment.

I'd like to see the Evolution's front have a far bigger space going from the bottom right to the top to accommodate more tools. With the clips added, it would easily be able to accommodate quite a few of additional optional cleaning tools, including the extension hose at the front. SEBO have been looking at flexible hoses that compact inside each other similar to Dyson or Vax, but not with a clear material.

I think you are right though Jon, regarding the motor exhaust - it looks like it has been put at the bottom as opposed to on the hood. SEBO have evidently retained their traditional way of airflow where this design is concerned, though it isn't such a far fetched idea to suggest a possible side vent at one side of the floor head may also be added.
 
SEBO could have in mind that the G1 and the BS36/46 series will be retired and replaced with the Evolution. It may even replace the 370 and 470 models too, as these are very similar to the BS36/46. At present, the UK lineup comsists of the BS36/46 and the Dart uprights for commercial use, and the Evolution would be a long awaited change for the stalwart BS36/46 whish has been running for a very long time. The Evolution comes in 3 head widths and looks similar to the BS36 so would fit in as the BS36 replacement in the UK.


 


As far as Domestic models is concerned, the X series is the oldest model now, with the K, D and Felix series all newer in design. It is only logical that the X series is updated now, but this model will be so hard to better. Storing the extension hose on board would be an idea, but would increase weight and possibly look untidy. All the X series was criticised for was the lack of independent brushroll control and the fact that machine tips over too easily when using the hose, so they may look at improving the stability of the machine when the hose is used. Any change to the X series domestic models would probably be carried on to the commercial XP series, if they are to retain the computerised height adjust.
 
The original 360 was renamed BS36 when SEBO became distributed worldwide. Here's a timeline I've kept myself:

SEBO TIME LINE DATES

1978 SEBO 350
1979 Windsor Industries signs deal with SEBO to supply commercial market in the U.S
1981 SEBO products are sold worldwide, also as private label products.
1983 SEBO distribution founded in Austria, UK, South Africa and France.
1984 SEBO Duo P carpet machine and electrostatic micro filtration introduced.
1986 SEBO 360 introduced with electronic brush control/sensor.
1991 SEBO X1 Automatic & BS36/46
1993 SEBO X2, X3 "big foot" versions of X1 launched
1995 SEBO C cylinder vacuum introduced, distribution extended to Australia & Korea.
1997 SEBO 370 launched, C1, C1.1, C2, C2.1 and C3 range extended with ET-H PN head.
1999 SEBO distribution and SEBO Foundation in U.S
1999 X1 relaunched as X1.1 and X4 Extra, X5.
2002 SEBO Professional G series G1/G2/G3 and K1 Airbelt & K3 domestic model launched.
2005 SEBO Dart and domestic Felix launched
2006/7 SEBO K3 Vulcano launched
2008 Pet versions of SEBO Felix and K1 launched.
2009 SEBO X4 Pet launched and UK market exclusive K1 Cappuccino "Eco" 1500 watt.
2010 SEBO D series, D1, D2, D3 and D4 Premium with ET-1 launched
2010 SEBO Felix additional colours launched: Crystal limited edition, Rosso and Vogue
2010 SEBO Dart UHS Polisher hard floor head & Domestic "Disco" version.
2011 SEBO D7/8 Professional commercial cylinder vacuum and Felix charcoal motor filter launched.
2011 SEBO Synthetic ultra dust bags for K1 and Felix becomes available
2012 SEBO D7/8 worldwide distribution begins. Felix Vogue arrives in UK and new synthetic dust bags for Felix also launched.
2012 SEBO Felix UK market Royale launched, X4 Excel for John Lewis launched, other countries with other flags on Felix range.
2012 SEBO 360/ BS36/46 redesign., SEBO K1 & X4 Pro also launched for Euronics.
2013 SEBO D2 Eco with 1600 watts launched and Eco floor head.
2014 SEBO genuine synthetic dust bags for X series launched.
2014 SEBO K1 Eco 700 Comfort, Plus models launched with 700 watts and Eco floor heads.
2014 SEBO Evolution 300 commercial upright vacuum cleaner
 
The main problem with the X series has always been its liability to fall over due to the preference of installing the top wand and top hose from the commercial uprights.

Other markets have complained about the lack of a headlight on the floor head.

The X series however has never been criticised for the lack of a brush roll stop function - this has only been recent or in recent years with the Miele S7 launch when it first came to market and the X series was seen as a natural competitor. Thus, in turn everything that the S7 sported has continued to be compared with SEBO's older X series.
 
As much as I like the S7, I just don't use it, it feels fragile and the parts are so expensive if it goes wrong. The X4, although a lot older in design is a much better cleaner to use In everyday cleaning, easier to push, robust, and has reasonably priced bags and brushrolls etc. The S7 has more lights and gadgets, but again, the computer control of the X4 that protects its motor, brushroll and belt does things just as well as the S7, and shuts down the motor on bag full or clog, which the S7 doesn't do. Headlights are just NOT a necessity on modern uprights - we just don't vacuum in the dark to need them. They are a nice extra, but not essential. The only problem I have is that I cant use my X4 on my lino floors, as the lino is not stuck down, and the brushroll marks it, so I have to use a floorhead from the K3 on the end of the wand, although it drops off easily. If the X4 had brush on/off control like the S7 it would make things pretty much perfect for me with the X4.
 
One must remember though that SEBO are first and foremost a commercial vacuum company. They have little interest in fitting lights to their models; reliability and durability is part of their company mantra.

When SEBO brought out the X1 Automatic, they tested the delicate brush roller and claimed that it could be used on hard floors. Back then there really wasn't much of a need for an upright vacuum to clean hard floors and SEBO being a small private company kept things simple. Their core commercial market has never demanded for an upright vacuum to clean hard floors. Again, one has to remember SEBO are more interested in their commercial market as that is where their core products exist compared to their domestic ranges.

I know there is a divide of opinion here where cleaning hard floors is concerned with the SEBO X. Current models can clean hard floors easily, whilst some owners find that the uprights aren't suitable. Others find that the brush roll doesn't go deep enough into the carpets because of the auto sensor - but these requirements are pretty recent in my opinion and for those after something different in the SEBO line up, the commercial uprights can often be found in domestic homes before the Dart/Felix came out that answer the pick up criticisms of the sensor models.

Other countries still benefit from the G1/G2 series and other manual adjuster X models. The UK however has a far simpler range, albeit could do with a manual G1/G2 again in my opinion.

SEBO have often offered the extension hose tagged onto the existing one of the X series, purchasing the straight tube and using the wall floor brush as an alternative to hard floor cleaning. I've done it myself - it isn't easy but then there aren't many uprights on the UK market that offer additional cleaning tools like that, that give you that added "extra," even if it means coping with the bulky hose, straight tube etc and having to store it all away at the end.

The wall/floor brush as it is known here in the UK is known as a Parquet floor tool for the X series in other countries. It is a friction fit tool that would probably suffice for your needs.

It isn't an easy solution though - but again to reiterate - one has to remember the market that SEBO produced the X series for ORIGINALLY. The Miele S7 is completely domestic - it was never designed for the commercial market.
 
It isn't that much of a problem for me anyway, as I can always get the K3 out if I want to do my hard floors as well as the carpets, as I have a lot more carpet than hard flooring. If the updated X series still retains the auto height adjuster computer AND does have the orange switch on the side of the floorhead like the Evolution, and this switch does indeed turn the brush on and off, then I would probably buy one in a flash. We will just have to wait and see what SEBO come up with for the UK market, as we don't even know if or when they will release the Evolution to the UK market, or who will supply and stock them. They may only be available through commercial cleaning companies like Candor, and could be very expensive initially to buy, much as the BS36/46 is.



http://www.candorservices.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=259_262&product_id=15
 
I will be watching out for these then - a new SEBO model is a rare event, and I look forward to seeing one of these machines for sale in the UK, and the exact specs for it, including where the main on/off switch is, and what exactly the orange switch on the side of the floorhead does, as we are all speculating that it controls the function of the brushroll, and this is not yet confirmed in black and white.
 
It was just a guess sebo_fan studying the pictures! Liking your SEBO timeline considering they are a small family run business they sure have achieved slot in such a small space in time. Delivering worth while thought out products and not just knocking a new one out every 5 minutes!

Although I don't own an X series yet I loved the whole design and setup of it. It's what IMO is what a domestic vacuum should be. Simple setup, easy to use and maintain, durable and reliable and no complicate setup. Which the X series is. Yes I would love to see a brush bar on/off switch and variable power but that's all I'd change on it. The hose and wand setup is just different to other vacuums and requires the user to use it in a different way. People are just used to using onboard hoses from the back of an upright but then there not that user friendly and stable. Least the SEBO X hose and wand is easy to use.
 
Well, it is stable to a point Jon. The top release allows the upright to fall over straight away when pulled which new owners don't realise. They're likely to moan about that rather than realise the easiness of the grab and go type feature that a top wand release design lends.

The hose on board stretches out to 3 metres but it isn't a flexible type hose that modern uprights like Dyson or Vax's compacting acrylic styles have. I find I have to keep one hand on the top of the hose and my other hand using the end of the hose with either choice of cleaning tool. Half the time I don't require the tools attached if I am doing a quick clean up of dust.

The built in hose is fine for most work, though I tend to take out the extension hose, which can't be stored on the machine - this is another aspect that more modern vacuums have, usually.

Steve mentions weight increase - SEBO's hose isn't that heavy and doesn't add that much considerable weight to the SEBO X design. Mostly all SEBO tools have been designed to be lightweight.

Most X4's sold in John Lewis stores for example normally have the hose tagged or tied around the front of the upright as the X4 is normally shown as a floor demo model. The increase of weight is barely noticeable - more noticeable is the difference of weight when a full bag is on board compared to an empty one IMHO.
 
Interestingly Steve, the cord on my K3 Premium has now become loose. Power flow is intermittent if all of the cable is taken out and power is ok with only a small amount of cord left in the machine. This is one issue I had with my previous K1 Komfort several years ago (1800 watt model, mk1 light blue design) and turfed it as back then other things had become to work loose, though the original model did last around 8 years.

I know how to repair it, but I'll be sending it back to SEBO UK for cord replacement. They have a new improved cord holder structure that prevents the cord from working loose.
 
True and if new users don't realise the true grab and go hose and wand then they will get caught out! Although SEBO hoses are not as flexible as other brands with Dyson, Vax and Miele for example I quite like and have got use to the style of flexibility SEBO uses on its hoses onboard and extension ones. They don't feel springy like others for example Dyson but of cause don't stretch as far because of that. Suppose that's the commercial element of SEBO so the hoses are more hard wearing than other brands. There is always room for improvement to try and stop or reduce the topple over some users experience.

Suppose they could add extra length to the standard on board hose. I can tell from my Felix they have added length to the on board hose with the extra loop over at the top that it higher than on mine on the current Felix range. Like you say the tools are not heavy so the extension hose could be added to fit onboard!

That is very true will agree with you there a vacuum with a full bag certainly adds weight!
 
What would be the problem with letting people on VL know about the function of this pedal? Why only those who are approved to belong to this select, closed, Facebook group?


 
 

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