SEBO "Lower Motor" models 2014

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I am equally puzzled. I thought the Felix navy I have is a bench mark for carpet cleaning performance, but it only gets a B for carpet performance? It is being outclassed by a Vax eco air and a Dyson ! ?

One thing I will stick up for James Dyson in saying is that no one has made clear how the tests are conducted and by who. Surely it cant be the manufacturers themselves, that would obviously be silly as they would be biased and somehow make the test turn in their favour.

 

[turbo500]

Well I think it's Dyson And vax for me now

Josh, surely somebody with as much experience as yourself with vacuums wouldn't take a label as an accurate means of measuring the performance of a vacuum? You KNOW how Miele and Sebo perform and yet you're taking the word of a sticker that doesn't include any test data? Seem's ridiculous to me to write off other brands based just on that.

 

[dys0nb0y]

Don't worry I think some of the labels are correct but I think some of them are wrong if you go on the Dyson website Dyson DC 41mk2 it says itvonly has 110aw for a fact I know it's 198aw as all the proper information was on the mobile website that's gone now luckily I took pictures and The mobile website says it cleans better than any other vacuum cleaner and that's not on the main website so something must be wrong and as everyone knows I'm not a big fan of Miele and Sebo i'm a Bagless person if I had to go was a bagged vacuum it Will be be a sebo or Henry or a miele i've had the new Dyson DC 39 animal it gets A for everything nut it gets B for carpet I can say the DC 50 gets A for everything but it gets B for energy I think everyone has to wait until maybe The labels get sorted Will properly know when the ables are put on machines in stores

 

[madaboutsebo]

Well the ratings on the SEBO German website has not put me off me owning my Felix nor put me off getting an X series sometime soon. The carpet ratings for the Felix and X series don't add up in my opinion. Only time will tell with this new information.

 

[turbo500]

Lots of the ratings don't add up.

C rating on hard floors for straight suction Miele and Henry's but a Vax upright gets an A?
Different energy ratings for 2 different Sebo's with the same motor in them?
B rating for a Miele with a standard air clean filter but F for an s-class Sebo?
C rating for a Miele S7 on carpet?

It's all utter rubbish. As far as I can tell, the testing is being done by the manufacturer based on guidelines set by Brussels, but each manufacture is doing their own tests. There is no standard way of measuring the energy labels, they just have to meet certain criteria.

 

[blakaeg]

I can't wait to try an Eco one. Have a soft spot for Sebo Felix )

 

[dys0nb0y]

If it's all true I think we all have to learn to except it even though I don't like sebo that much I still think they're great at cleaning carpet but they are just not my cup of tea lol

 

[madaboutsebo]

Certainly don't Turbo500. C rating for a Miele S7 for carpet!!! Did they forget to turn the power brush on! As for the F for SEBO s-class was a letter of the alphabet plucked from the air!! Surely if SEBO s-class was that bad would you not notice if it wasn't filtering very well!

I think your right with regards to the testing, I can't see Brussels testing every single vacuum cleaner to rate all the different area's for each one!

Same here blakaeg I can't wait to try the Eco Felix and the X series too, although the X series will be the same as the X1.1 surely. Would like to try the K & D series if the UK get 700 watt versions too. I do love my SEBO Felix too, and SEBO in general.

 

[dys0nb0y]

 

[sebo_fan]

And this video is supposed to prove what?

 

[madaboutsebo]

I was thinking the same sebo_fan. I think we are being told SEBO vacuums filtration is not very good perhaps! One thing I will say is the video doesn't show you the post motor filter on the top of the K series. So how do we know it has one in!

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, the other thing is at least we are shown a filter at the beginning of the test, the red hospital grade filter that filters out things higher than the green one. It would have been better had we got to see the state of the filter at the end.

Unlike this similar test on a Dyson DC22.

 

[sebo_fan]

Back on topic

Anyway, SEBO have added a few other things online today.

SEBO Felix Kombi - 700 watt and in a rather remarkably similar choice to what I decided on myself, when it came to changing the colour/different patterned exhaust cover a few months ago on mine...

Available in either Pearl or Platinum colours.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Oh, I got this all wrong. Okay. SEBO and Miele are terrible vacuum cleaners. They must be because of these rating labels. They have terrible filtrations and well below average carpet cleaning performance not to mention terribly inefficient motors. I mean its not exactly as if SEBO and Miele have won awards from which? magazine and GHI, among being used in Buckingham Palace, the White House amongst hospitals, hotels and schools right across Europe and north America. Nah, if you want a real deep powerful cleaning machine with excellent filtration, buy a Vax!

Seriously come on people, and especially you dysonboy. These labels mean nothing at the moment, the tests have not been conducted to a standard and they have not got proper information yet. Manufactures are rushing to get all of this done. Give it until the end of the year at least before the labels actually mean anything.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Well said above post ^^^

These labels are a joke. It's like the new Hoover Cleaners at Argos, surely not premium models such as the Globe & Turbo Power get a G for emissions? They can't be that bad as to release as much dust as is sucked up by the cleaners in the first place.

Look, we all know how good Sebo/Miele cleaners are so I won't worry about the rating stickers changing my mind about them.

 

[sebo_fan]

The thing is though, the EU labels are hardly for the benefit of collectors, HI-LO - they're for the unsuspecting Average Joe buyer who might just believe everything they read.

Mind you, when you look at what gets an A for mostly everything, it 'aint exactly cheap. If you go in for all manner of performance data (I can only think of one ex-member on here who springs to mind and who is probably spitting pips regarding the SEBO data) then you'll most certainly have to pay through the nose for it.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Loving the new colours of the new Felix models. The Felix Classic I've got I don't think any other filter cover would go even as a contrast!

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, the Navy colours would suit the Classic a lot, or the Vogue exhaust filter. It has enough contrast that wouldn't make the classic look out of place. I believe online classic filters can be cheaper to buy since it is an older model.

The other thing regarding the X series is that they have forever been sold on the basis that they gently clean carpets. Though I would have expected a better performance data for carpet cleaning, at least the X doesn't get a D rating.

At the end of the day Im hopeful that the ratings may be re-tested, not just for SEBO but for other brands. As Chris notes, there are too many variables in the EU label tests and in my mind they don't go far enough to justify the ratings.

 

[sebo_fan]

Something is definitely amiss!

Looked at the G1/G2 on SEBO's Germany site. Confusing stats for each, when both are the same model yet the G2 has a bigger floor head.

 

[sebo_fan]

There are links that have been put onto Google but don't appear to be working yet - there's a new Felix 4 Rosso planned to be shown at the IFA show 2014 and the D2 Eco 700 amongst others.