SEBO "Lower Motor" models 2014

[turbo500]

Well, that's one theory to this label issue!

Whilst I fully support the lowering of the wattages, the problem with the ratings is that there is no consistency in how these are tested. Each manufacturer is left to do it's own testing based on guidelines written by Brussels. But there are too many variables. For example, you could get 2 different sets of results from the same cleaner just by using a different test carpet. There really needs to be strict consistency and tests done all in the same place by the same people using the same types of flooring, timings and the same types of dirt to test with.

 

[dys0nb0y]

I think the sebos test I agree is filtration and hard floor as hard floor is hard floor I never really felt the filtration was that good as it doesn't have a have a HEPA filter Bart this is just my opinion

 

[blakaeg]

I found the SEBO Felix filtration to be excellent. Never had an issue with it.

 

[turbo500]

it doesn't have a have a HEPA filter

No, it has S-Class Filtration, which is only 0.001% of a micron difference. You must have a very sensitive nose.

 

[madaboutsebo]

I've never had any issues with the filteration on my Felix either. I've yet to change both filters on my Felix.

I agree with you Turbo500 the tests are not consistent across the board.

I wish SEBO would announce their new world premier vacuum cleaner. Must be in the next few days...can't wait.....!

 

[dys0nb0y]

Never had one i'm sure the filtration is good I would prefer it to have a HEPA filter but hopefully And they bring out a new model it has one

 

[turbo500]

I would prefer it to have a HEPA filter

Because you're obviously very affected by the 0.001% of a micron difference in filtration level.

 

[dys0nb0y]

Yes

 

[DesertTortoise]

I'm looking at the mystery object hanging on the wall and I think I am seeing some sort of pedal on a steel arm to the right of center. It almost looks like the height adjuster pedal on some powered floor brushes. Why would a canister vacuum have that on it's body?

 

[madaboutsebo]

My guess is the left hand side is where the tools go in particular a crevice tool the other side the cable/plug from the cable rewind.

 

[gsheen]

I love to see prototype machines but back to the topic of lower wattage motors. Now before I start this I am in no way implying that sebo has  done this at all.


 


One of the things that has been worrying me about this law, Remember in the 70's leaded petrol was banned, How poor the performance was on some of these cars until they started to come up with more efficient engines.


 


Now in another thread on this forum their was a post about a Journalist creating panic but by saying that powerful machines were going to be gone forever. 


We all made fun of this but their may be a thread of truth about it. 


How many manufacturers are simply going to dump smaller motors into machines designed for more powerful ones. 


 


Small motors are all good and well but if the machine they are fitted into was designed for a bigger one their could be a real lack of power. 


 


Most manufacturers have been very lazy They simply put more and more powerfull motors in machines instead of designing a machine that didn't need a 2000watt motor to suck properly I fear many will simply put a smaller motor into these older design machines to save money for now creating some really bad machines. This is especially a problem in Europe were most vacuums and Canister style machines and are straight suction. 


 


 

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, it all goes back to the 1960s and may I say it, even before that where brands constantly used "extra suction power," or "higher power" to sell the product. It all got out of hand in the 1990s IMHO.

Even modern vacuums in the U.S were advertising "ESP" on some certain brands (Eureka?)...

Im not sure what you are seeing DT, best to leave it until SEBO actually reveal the vacuum in question.

As for filtration - HEPA and S-Class are nearly the same. S-Class came first before HEPA - even Miele used S-Class before they changed to HEPA - there is very little difference. An actual HEPA filter compared to ones used in vacuums are completely different, any way.

Also, the U.S markets have HEPA filters for the X series, but SEBO in Germany have tested them and found them to be below their preferred S-Class filters in terms of emissions. They may well make HEPA eventually but I think SEBO's hospital grade branded filters add a lot more weight to actual professional filtration standards.

 

[super-sweeper]

Yep, ESP was Eureka's big thing in the 1980s, they even had a an entire line-up called ESP! I have one of the first 1978 versions, it's a great vacuum but the self-propulsion isn't the best! The amps craze really did get out of hand in the 90s, especially Hoover's 'performance rating'system! Some people thought Hoover was selling a 28 Amp vacuum!! 

 

[v6jme]

E series

The new sebo E series should be in the UK by the end of October, will sit between K & d, bag 3.5 litre, remote and power head on top model : )

 

[turbo500]

in the UK by the end of October

ooooohh interesting. What's your source?

 

[sensotronic]

Picture of Sebo E

First pic.

 

[sebo_fan]

Woop Woop - finally!

Thank you for posting this Roger! Im hoping that's a cord rewind button below the main function dial button.

 

[sebo_fan]

Info from SEBO Germany

As you will see, info regarding the E is given from the same photo taken from SEBO Germany site.

http://www.sebo.de/en.html

 

[madaboutsebo]

Yeah finally it's revealed!!! I did wonder what it would be called or if they would use the letter E after the D series or L after the K series. Looking good.

 

[sebo_fan]

What I like about it is that it has a simple elegance about it. But then so does the D series.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Very true it certainly does, in keeping with the D series. Sleek lines too. Looks like the bag compartment access is on top like the ad series. Wonder if it has the blue status light around the power switch like the D. Like you hope that's a cord rewind button next to the main power button!

Thought this E might replace the K but doesn't look like it as why would SEBO introduce Eco versions of the K series.

 

[sebo_fan]

IM surprised that the E will use the 3 litre dust bag from the K series to be honest. It would be good if the capacity could be 4.5 litres so that it sits closer to the D series in terms of a mid-range cylinder vacuum and would bring it closer to the likes of Miele with their FJM series bags.

From what we've seen SEBO aren't in a habit of replacing a new body with an old name. I can't imagine the K series would be sold alongside the E though - it may well eventually replace it.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Now you say that I'm surprised too, from another comment above that the E will fit in between the K and D series you would have thought it would of had a bigger bag capacity for a mid range model. Like you say 4.5 or even 4 litres. Suppose it saves on cost of bag manufacturing. No new bag to develops or manufacture.

No that's right. Agree with you there especially having the same bag capacity too. That's why when I saw the picture of the E I thought this looks like a K replacement.

Sure we will see more details about it soon!

 

[sebo_fan]

SEBO Airbelt E series...

Just some more info about the SEBO E Airbelt series.



http://evacuumstore.com/c-2411-sebo-airbelt-e-series.aspx

 

[madaboutsebo]

Sounds interesting, I like the idea of the 3 models. I wonder if the power head will be the ET-1? Sure it will. Looks like the SEBO Airbelt E series will be setting some new standards in the market. Would love to add a SEBO cylinder to join my Felix Classic as well as a X series I'm looking at getting at some point.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, it is how the model line up first started with the cylinder vacs like C1, C1.1, C2. C2.1 and so on.

Here's a snapshot of SEBO's original line up in the 1990s. There were K2's in other countries, like Canada I think. The K3 in the middle seems to have a suction only combi floor tool but the electric hose/tubes can be seen.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Love that picture of SEBO line up back in the 90's thanks for posting that sebo_fan. Keeping the range in a particular model line up simple helps the customer distinguish the differences between them. I think SEBO are good at doing that. I bet the UK will get a Per version of the E series.

Really looking forward to seeing the range and specs of the new Airbelt E series and see the top end power head model too.

 

[sebo_fan]

Me too, but I look forward to whatever SEBO will dream up for the future X series based on the Evolution. Hopefully they will offer the same manual height adjustment.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Yes that would be nice to see what the future X series will be. I hope they offer manual and automatic height adjustment on future versions of the X series. For the average user the auto height adjustment is probably one of many reasons this model is popular for SEBO.

 

[sebo_fan]

The main reason to why the SEBO X sells isn't just because of the auto sensor though - it sells well because of its high reliability record and because it was designed to be repaired by the owner rather than be sent back to the company like other companies and their various models.

Espares videos on You Tube are great if you're an X series owner. There's virtually everything you need to know on there in terms of repairing most of the parts that go with age, or if you buy second hand etc.