New SEBO 300/350/400 Evolution

[madaboutsebo]

Interesting you can change the floor height either by by foot or the telescopic tube! Wonder how that works with the telescopic tube. I'm intrigued the more I look at this new SEBO model!

 

[sebo_fan]

I find conventional cords frustrating- because a lot of uprights have cords installed half way down the rear of the vacuum, thus requiring excess to be hooked up - ironic really when you consider that if the cords were attached at the top like SEBO, they would give a far truer measurement from the handle to the plug in terms of distance.

Not many uprights fit flat to the floor as a design point these days, either. That seems to be a design element that has got lost amongst many modern brands. If an upright can go under a bed successfully and maintain floor contact without a bagless round bin getting stuck or a too-high floor head, then it ticks my boxes for "normal upright use."

 

[vintagerepairer]

Presumably you could press the button to change the height with the end of the tube instead of your foot?

 

[madaboutsebo]

I totally agree there with you sebo_fan both the cord and flat to the floor design. That design element has been long forgotten about shame really, as flat to the floor is really useful in an upright. Thats why I love my SEBO Felix for that and don't miss bagless bins getting in the way and being too bulky including the floor head too!

 

[sebo_fan]

Sadly it was a problem I found with my Panasonic MC-UG522 upright - oh it can clean quite successfully flat to the floor but only if I keep my foot on the floor head due to its hinge and auto floor head adjustment - and that can't be done for successful cleaning all of the time due to the furniture in question and the physical distance between floor head and the top handle.

When I removed the hinge bracket that was preventing the floor head from cleaning flat to the floor, the handle then wouldn't lock up when finished. It's a hard a compromise when brands make handle releases and hinges like that!

 

[blakaeg]

Sebo_Fan,

That'll be great. I really hope so and I will most definitely love to own one if they do )

 

[spiraclean]

Really like the looks of this one, seems they've taken some of the best features of both the Professional G and BS series and combined them into one, with a couple of new twists for good measure. Hopefully this will make it into the UK lineup at some point, because it's exactly what I've been looking for in a Sebo upright.

On thing I'm already wondering though: Sebo currently makes the Professional XP, Professional G, 370/470, BS series and Dart. That's five different styles of commercial upright, and the Evolution would bring that up to six. Could it be one of the existing models is due to be retired soon in order to make way for the new?

 

[sebo_fan]

Could it replace existing models?

It could well do. Based on the fact you can get three different width versions of the floor head, it could effectively replace the BS36/46.

I like the new bin surround though and the fancy bottom filter part - highlights that SEBO can move with the times, even if it is a little step forward. There is a top handle that you can see and sits below the top hose.

 

[seamusuk]

Been on the phone to Sebo...

Hey Guys
Spoke to a very helpful lady at Sebo this morning- she knew nothing about them other than a colleague pointing her to the German site already linked.
She took my details and is sending me info as soon as they have it
Seamus

 

[madaboutsebo]

Suppose SEBO UK don't know anything about the new Evolution yet as it's just been launched.

Be interesting to see if and when they do retire any old models as both the BS and 370/470 models had new improved cleaner heads didn't they about 2 years ago!?

The Evolution does look like a combination of the best parts from the current models with some new features. I think or my guess is that on/off orange switch next to the brush check light is a brush bar on/off switch. The main power switch looks like it could be located at the back of the handle just below the top cable hook/tidy!? As it's a single motor vacuum if it does have a brush bar on/off switch suppose a clutch setup would be used would you say?

Do like the overall look of the new Evolution great features too. Does the EU directive apply to commercial vacuums I thought I read somewhere commercial vacuums would be different to domestic? SEBO mentions it complies with the new EU directive at 1100 watts. Which it does for this year.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Suppose SEBO UK don't know anything about the new Evolution yet as it's just been launched.

Be interesting to see if and when they do retire any old models as both the BS and 370/470 models had new improved cleaner heads didn't they about 2 years ago!?

The Evolution does look like a combination of the best parts from the current models with some new features. I think or my guess is that on/off orange switch next to the brush check light is a brush bar on/off switch. The main power switch looks like it could be located at the back of the handle just below the top cable hook/tidy!? As it's a single motor vacuum if it does have a brush bar on/off switch suppose a clutch setup would be used would you say?

Do like the overall look of the new Evolution great features too. Does the EU directive apply to commercial vacuums I thought I read somewhere commercial vacuums would be different to domestic? SEBO mentions it complies with the new EU directive at 1100 watts. Which it does for this year.

 

[sebo_fan]

I called SEBO UK yesterday evening. SEBO management are aware of the Evolution 300 as well as other models and there is apparently something else to come... I'm not entirely sure, what though!

 

[madaboutsebo]

That's interesting to hear sebo_fan. I like and other models and something else!

I've now been wondering the last few days if I should hold off getting an X Series at present!?

 

[sebo_fan]

Check the FB group, Jon. A little bit more detail on there!

 

[madaboutsebo]

Thanks sebo_fan will do.

 

[sebo_fan]

The more I think about it, the more I think that SEBO could easily change the Evolution 300 into another upright vacuum to sit alongside the SEBO X range. A domestic model with variable suction control dial would be perfect I think. Also there doesn't appear to be a motor filter like the older models on the front hood.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Great idea and thinking......

SEBO could quite easily do that good thinking there. They could scale down the X series range as well to run along side a newer domestic version of the Evolution. That would be a nice idea if they did do a domestic version of the Evolution! I still think that side on/off switch is for turning the brush bar off with your foot! Time will tell. I was wondering that too. If you take a look on the website of the picture with the bag in the bag housing underneath the bag looks like a cartridge you can remove! Could that be the post motor filter? Being the outlet holes are on the other side? But then again if it's a single motor and the air leaves the bag via the side filter down into the hood, like you say no vents on the hood. Does the air flow go back up and out via the front vent? If you look at the picture of the side view, where it shows the cable connection the air ducts on that side look bigger than the X series! Could this allow for 3 airways? Just a thought...more like a wild silly guest lol! It's got us all thinking that's for sure!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Its a nice looking machine - and retains the classic SEBO look. I too think that orange lever on the base is a mechanical belt engager, like the ones found on older Panasonic uprights. I cant imagine that they would put the main motor on/off switch on the side of the floorhead where it would be liable t get knocked during use.


I can see them updating the X series soon, its been running now for 22 years with the last change in 1999 when the X1.1 and  X4 came out. However, I hope they don't ruin an excellent design when updating the domestic X series. The X4 Extra is a hugely successful machine that will be very easily ruined by thoughtless changes. If they freshened up the casing, and added a brushroll stop facility for hard floors, but retained the automatic height computer for carpets, it would be a good upgrade. If they remove the auto height computer in favour of manual adjust like on the G1, that would spoil the X series, as the computerised assist was its biggest plus point.

 

[sebo_fan]

SEBO sadly don't have the money to add in thoughtless changes.

The X sensor should continue for the domestic market - that was after all, why it was designed whilst the manual adjuster was used for commercial markets. The new Evolution could effectively take the space of the old G1/G2 in the UK. SEBO could effectively offer two models - the original sensor X model as you suggest whilst the Evolution 300 with brush roll on/off and manual height adjustment.

I'd like to see the Evolution's front have a far bigger space going from the bottom right to the top to accommodate more tools. With the clips added, it would easily be able to accommodate quite a few of additional optional cleaning tools, including the extension hose at the front. SEBO have been looking at flexible hoses that compact inside each other similar to Dyson or Vax, but not with a clear material.

I think you are right though Jon, regarding the motor exhaust - it looks like it has been put at the bottom as opposed to on the hood. SEBO have evidently retained their traditional way of airflow where this design is concerned, though it isn't such a far fetched idea to suggest a possible side vent at one side of the floor head may also be added.

 

[madabouthoovers]

SEBO could have in mind that the G1 and the BS36/46 series will be retired and replaced with the Evolution. It may even replace the 370 and 470 models too, as these are very similar to the BS36/46. At present, the UK lineup comsists of the BS36/46 and the Dart uprights for commercial use, and the Evolution would be a long awaited change for the stalwart BS36/46 whish has been running for a very long time. The Evolution comes in 3 head widths and looks similar to the BS36 so would fit in as the BS36 replacement in the UK.


 


As far as Domestic models is concerned, the X series is the oldest model now, with the K, D and Felix series all newer in design. It is only logical that the X series is updated now, but this model will be so hard to better. Storing the extension hose on board would be an idea, but would increase weight and possibly look untidy. All the X series was criticised for was the lack of independent brushroll control and the fact that machine tips over too easily when using the hose, so they may look at improving the stability of the machine when the hose is used. Any change to the X series domestic models would probably be carried on to the commercial XP series, if they are to retain the computerised height adjust.