Electrolux model F

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I'd be wary.....

about that eBay seller with the hoses. Yeah, they look "beautiful" but some of them could leak like a sieve....especially the 1205 hose. And typically if I ask them about hose leakage, they either lie or act confused/insulted at the query.

I've been the recipient of both buying hoses;outright lying and plain ignorance.

Also to have those hoses shipped to me it shows $32 which I'd have to add to the cost. Plus, I have to pay tax on Internet sales now.

I've never had to fix one of those end louvers before. I looked at a couple of G's that I have. If that pic is correct of the louver, then the plastic pin goes inside of a metal barrel on the back. Now I don't know if that metal barrel pries back enough to slip the louver pin in or it comes off somehow. But the plastic louver pin in melted in place and not serviceable.

Kevin
 
Here’s an ides

It is basically a rectangular flat piece of spring steel that has a hump across the middle of it longways, this hump forms the place where it goes over the hinging plastic rod of the vent itself. It is just about as wide as the slot in the back of the cordwinder. You can see the hump in it from that one pic I copied above.

Jon
 
Wow

Yikes. That’s unfortunate. I’ll look if I have one in my parts bin in my closet but uncertain if I have one. Needle in a haystack you know. If I don’t have one perhaps a local Aerus guy would have one off an old machine. I’ve had some good fortune with some dealers that just made my day when I mentioned I had a particular machine but was missing something or a part was broken and they gave me used parts no charge when I was buying something else.

Jon
 
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This is a very early version. There is no exhaust. The pressure inside the machine just keeps building up and building up and building up until it literally explodes. This problem was quickly remedied but not before numerous injuries and fatalities resulted from the poor design.
 
Hahaha!

I must laugh at you Charles! That’s a good one! I can see shards of metal going everywhere as the back of the machine finally explodes! We need some humor around here even if it includes sarcasm!

But seriously...the bracket that the cord reel uses was indeed designed with a hole in it before the reel itself...the air just blows agains the opposite side of the reel housing and is deflected all around it. Not as good of a design because it could blow floor dirt around. I’ve found though the older design cord reels like this work better though but I’ve only experienced a few of them and for their age they really worked like new and whip the cords back in quite quickly. Never taken one of these older ones apart though.

Jon
 
dysonman1 wrote:
Why would someone try to sell an electric Super J hose with no pistol grip?

I reply:
People will try to sell anything. Whether someone actually buys it is an entirely different story. Chances are it leaks like a sieve and the handle has been reused on another hose. I bought a vinyl hose with no grip on the cheap one time but I had a handle for it in my parts box and was able to come out with a good hose. Had the hose been a woven one like that one, I wouldn't have bothered.
 
Someone may buy it

Perhaps someone may buy it and put their hose handle on it unknowingly that these woven hoses often wear out and leak. It may not leak too bad yet but it’s bound to happen. But at this age I’d be surprised if it doesn’t leak. I did think this was stupid to see this listed for sale though but the seller may have damaged the handle and bought a whole new hose or I replaced the entire vacuum and is selling any remaining non broken parts. Those of us “pros” here know that these old woven hoses are generally useless except for collectible purposes of looks and display only and not for actual functional use.

This hose is actually a Golden Jubilee hose making it even older... the super J ones were white with gold and blue stripes. Probably someone who mixed up the models. Golden Jubilee and Suoer J look nearly identical at a glance and are often mixed up. The Super J is longer and the top cover’s back end is slanted out on a 45 degree angle to make it fit the slightly longer body. Aside from that and the 50th anniversary sticker on the Golden Jubilee or Super J logo on the chrome past the blower door there is virtually no other obvious visible differences so they often get mixed up. The super J’s are painted inside the bag door, the Golden Jubilee’s are not. The super J was likely named Super J because it had the better motor making it a “super Golden Jubilee” I think was the concept behind naming it. The Golden Jubilee anniversary was now over at this point as well but the model was selling well in the Gold coloring so simplifying it to “Super J” made the most sense but gold decor was still in during that period.

I remember my Grandmother’s Golden Jubilee when it was spanking new. It was really quite “glamorous” in comparison to the past coloring of most Electrolux’s which were predominantly recurring shades of teal blue with some occasional variations to bronze, beige and creams. It also of course was now still quite advanced as it was the second generation of the new horizontal rectangular body, something that became very popular with the blue 1205 and this just made it better and the change in the top panel too made it look even better and more advanced. My Grandmother had a lot of Gold accents in her house including in the carpet then, so the Golden Jubilee just fit right in to her formal decor much better than her previous blue 1205. As the Gold styling outgrew its time, almond came in and most appliances were white or Almond with brown or wood grain trim and control panels...so I imagine this is why the Olympia was chosen to be brown and cream. Surprised it wasn’t red, white and blue for the Olympics! But that likely would not have sold nearly as well but I don’t doubt the idea of that was at least brought up by someone when developing the Olympia, but perhaps the coloring may have been already chosen well before it became the official vacuum cleaner of the 1980 Olympic Winter Games which were held in Lake Placid, NY.

Jon
 
Gee thanks

For correcting me. I guess somewhere I saw a Super J with the white hose initially and thought that was the correct hose. I really can’t remember the original hose on my Grandmother’s Golden Jubilee as by the time I was old enough to be more observant of the hose patterns she had already replaced the original hose with an Olympia series hose when the Electrolux man sold her the Olympia to replace her pristine model L.

Jon
 
I don’t think the Electrolux guy gave the correct hose when my mom bought the F, it did not have any colors on it, it was just a grayish woven one. I’ll have to look through the home movies maybe the vac is laying around.
 
Color matching and mismatching patterns and theories.

As I’ve mentioned before, I think some were equipped from the factory with non matching hoses and tools especially at end of a color or model change run. It would seem logical to be the case because it would be too much waste to throw away or sort and ship off the mismatched ones. Machines were sent off in complete boxes to the branches...but attachments and hoses were not just sent in the boxes with the machines but also to the branches as replacement parts when branches ordered them. The machine and parts usually were not paired together separately when someone bought a whole machine, usually the salesman would just give them a complete boxed set. But who knows what was really done at the factory for sure and afterward at the branches. Some Boxed sets could have been and I’m sure were broken down here and there if someone wanted to buy just a replacement canister unit and perhaps the hose but use all their old attachments from a previous model so then all the extra parts would have been added to the branch’s parts supply from the box set. Salesman likely weren’t attentive to color matching as long as it was a complete set or met the customer’s desired set they wanted. But from the amount of mismatching I noticed among people who bought new machines and received them with something mismatched, I’m led to believe mismatching was happening at the factory and it’s likely they didn’t have runs of different colors at the same time...just decided to change to the new color at a certain time and an older colored canister may have then been paired with a newer colored attachment or hose as the supply from each area was pulled from the bins along the assembly line pack up the box. Thinking about how a factory works that produces each and every item using molds and liquid plastics, coloring agents, paint supplies, dyes and so much more it would seem that when a color change was implemented it was done when the old colorant was used up and the new color supply had already been ordered for the new model’s colors so that’s what determined when the new models colors started production for all the attachments. There was likely a drop dead date for color changes to the canisters themselves to coordinate with the model changes and marketing as I don’t see canisters miscolored for the model number or letter. Since attachments and hoses were also sent off to the branches in indefinite quantities determined only by order demand from the branches beyond being included in boxed sets, the quantities of these produced were much higher than the canisters themselves which could easily create overruns or even shortages which would then create the mismatching situation right from the factory. I don’t think Electrolux was dedicated as much to color matching each and every unit that went out as that would not be a practical priority...as long as it had everything that was to be included, it would do the job and be a complete set regardless of color matching. Likely people didn’t question the coloring and just assumed “that’s the way it was made by the company” when they bought a machine because they didn’t have bunches to compare with and say, “hey that one has a matching hose, I want that!”

I’ve just seen so many mismatches where they came purchased this way that this is where my theory on this comes from. Heck, my Aerus Lux Legacy in light blue is all color correct except for the elbow for the combination rug and floor tool, that is next generation white. The entire tool was almost never used so doubt there was ever a replacement done, they may have run out of the dye for the light blue and already had the white dye ready to go if this was produced near the end of the light blue color run so the next batch of elbow connectors ended up white while everything else was still light blue. And this tool was not standard on this model anyway and likely thrown in to the sale or perhaps purchased slightly after...keep in mind the combination rug floor tool itself is color correct, just the elbow which comes off to is different. I didn’t buy the machine new, but likely I’m second owner. But for the most part, I do feel that most boxed sets had the correct color matched parts and the occurrence of mismatches was less than the amount of matches overall.

Only someone who worked in the Electrolux factory and perhaps oversaw how all of the production was occurring would know exactly what the practice and policy was for packaging and color matching.

I’ve also observed that if a color mismatch occurred, it was likely paired the following way...the older model canister had any combination of a next generation’s colored attachments. Not the other way around, usually won’t see a new generation canister with the older generation’s colored hose or tools. So likely they started the color change on the hoses and the attachments prior to the drop dead date of production of the next model so when the drop dead date arrived for the next model, all the hoses and attachments had already started production in the proper color so matching would occur on the newest model right away. Color matching wouldn’t be as high a priority on an outgoing model. But rather was selected to be the priority on the latest and greatest.

My best friends Mom’s model F has a model G hose. The lady I cleaned for had a blue L and it had a golden jubilee or super J gold colored hose and PN-2 with the golden jubilee sticker and I’ve seen many others with color transitions. I’ve seen blue hoses with cream handles instead of the blue ones and so on. But again, it more often seems to be the next generation’s colored attachments paired with the previous generation canister when there’s a mismatch.

That’s why I think your cream rug and floor tool with the teal bumper may have been the original included with the machine. The ones that were cream and teal were produced for the G. If the change happened before the G was produced, then them some F’s during the last year likely would have received some of the G colored attachments, hoses, etc, in any combination...just like my friend’s Mom’s F has the G hose but everything else is F coloring.

Lots of observation and thinking.

Jon
 
Guilty!

Years ago I cut the cardboard from the front of a used Electrolux bag to use in place of a regular paper bag. I did this when I was using the machine as a leaf blower on my front porch and also to fill a large air mattress. I get more air flow from the exhaust with less restriction. I put a colored piece of tape near the hose inlet to remind me to put a regular bag back when done. So if you ever come across an Electrolux with just the cardboard mounted in bag compartment,that might be one explanation!
 
That’s scary

To know you could inadvertently run the vac with no bag in it. When I need mine to work well as a blower I just put a fresh bag in and don’t suck anything up with it and swap back the partially filled one when I’m done. The fresh bag blocks very little suction.

Jon
 

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