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See my thread. It's asking for the fix needed.
Modding the vacuum would just ruin the warranty though. I'm not going to spend money on an expensive product if I have to "hack" or "mod" it. I like jerry rigging stuff but a product should work out of the box. Maybe your mod does make it better than the Gen5
So your response is 'nuh uh'?
There needs to be a change of leadership so the more senior engineers that understand things get more power and say over what to release. I still can't believe the decision making on display, as I'll go through in the review.
Interesting how he noticed it doesn't perform as well as the Gen5 but didn't accurately explain why.
See https://vacuumland.org/threads/the-hack-that-can-save-pre-release-version-of-dyson-v16.46693/
 
In that case, that's because said areas are too narrow. Use the crevice or combi.

Some are narrow, but most are just areas under things like desks or beds.

You are right though, I suppose you could crawl around with a crevice tool in those areas. But personally I'd rather just use a vacuum with a straight cleaning head.
 
Some are narrow, but most are just areas under things like desks or beds.

You are right though, I suppose you could crawl around with a crevice tool in those areas. But personally I'd rather just use a vacuum with a straight cleaning head.
I don't entirely agree with what @Vacuum Facts now thinks of the typical soft roller. The soft roller isn't redundant - it's designed for the largest piles of large debris.
Dyson thought they could replicate both the normal brush bar and the soft roller into one, and if there's every nickel for every time so, we now got the second nickel with the V16 (the first one was the V11). While swapping cleaner heads has been relatively quite the trouble primarily because you have to bend, V16's cleaning wand already solved that with the red cuff near the top, making the head swapping so easy and simple and effortless, the two-head strat from the past since the birth of the (Fluffy) soft roller has finally become viable. The hopefully-ultimately redesigned as I proposed, version of the new dual-cone head for V16 should be the brush bar with front wall, gates and technically bulky head (maybe in two sizes) for cleaning carpets deeply but also capable of sweeping the hard floors and de-tangling hair all efficiently, and the redesigned hybrid brush bar be reincarnated and re-engineered from Vis Nav into the soft roller for V16 (not the porting of the laser soft roller as is the case of the current market in certain regions), while similar deep-clean performance on carpets but superior efficiency at hard floors through the opened or lack-of front wall and designed as low-profile for low-profile cleaning like the old laser soft roller, and both heads have the same intelligence and similar lasers as the ones in the current dual-cone head already present for the V16. Only the redesigned multi-action soft roller can be ported back into previous models (partly because that should've been included in the later releases of something like V12, or Gen5, or earlier of V8 Cyclone), while the redesigned dual-cone head can continue be incompatible with anything that came before the V16.

And we know Dyson has all the R&D to make the new heads as I proposed. After all, they innovates, while the competition dupes and copies in such ways that tend to hurt the originals which are almost all Dyson's (The only truly innovative things I could think of in vacuum cleaners that Dyson didn't do first were the auto-empty cleaning stations and the bulky dual brush bar heads...), just as @Vacuum Facts said himself many times.

So yeah, that was all I have. Sorry, my talk was so long, it exceeded 10,000 characters and forced me to split the thing.
@Hatsuwr instead of porting the existing soft roller, Dyson have to return to the dual head strat they previously did. That soft roller should now have been the multi-action brush bar like the head of the Vis Nav, designed for all floors like the regular dual-cone head. The redesigned version of the latter should be the brush bar, while the multi-action would take the role of the soft roller. The brush bar can keep the front wall, but the soft roller needs open front so debris can easily be sweeped. And as a bonus there would be straight front and virtually no unswept path and the soft roller can also stay low-profile, ideal for such under-layers like belle beds or tables as you've described.

The fact Dyson merely ported the laser soft roller instead of making sure the V16 works consistently powerfully and cleaning consistency superbly even from out-of-the-box (at least at launch) proves how far Dyson suits has fallen. First, their award-winning customer service and support became utterly trash, and now their newest flagship(s) became inconsistent. Stupid.
 
Everyone, can we agree that cordless V16, crippled out of the box at launch, should be the symbol of Dyson's deteriorating suits?
Dang it, I can't edit any post over 24-hour old...

Again, TechRadar messed up their review and testing. They couldn't identify why the V16 was crippled, and out of that they only got the front wall right. But the new head is fine - as @Vacuum Facts noted, the 900W motor consuming only 450W in Boost mode during deep cleaning due to some design mistakes is the real reason why V16 is crippled and has to be modded.

Yes, Gen5 is the safer pick, but it's not that hard to mod the V16 - see https://vacuumland.org/threads/the-hack-that-can-save-pre-release-version-of-dyson-v16.46693/ and get talking.
 
He hasn't said what the mod is. But there's two problems here.

1. Any mod would void the warranty so that's an instant no go for me.

2. Having to mod a new product to make it work properly is also a no go for me.

That's a giant failure. I don't mind buying old things and jerry rigging but I'm not going to do it for a new product. Especially from a company I once considered at least reputable mostly.

So this vacuum unfortunately appears to be garbage. And that's sad.
 
I noticed in one of the TechRadar reviews they mentioned the boost mode having more battery life as a pro. But failed to mention it's only that way because they lowered the performance. Not because of any actual improvements.

In fact the whole 315AW number from Dyson is like false advertising then.

I also noticed Dyson didn't put any seals or anything on the dust compressor system so if you notice dust just collects on the edges and will probably scratch the bin if you don't constantly take the bin off and clean the vacuum. Terrible.

Frankly it doesn't appear to my eyes losing the first stage cyclone was worth this feature. Emptying the bin on the V10-Gen5 is easy and like well over 90% of the contents are expelled when you press it down into the garbage. As long as your garbage isn't full there won't be any real dust clouds either.
 
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He hasn't said what the mod is. But there's two problems here.

1. Any mod would void the warranty so that's an instant no go for me.

2. Having to mod a new product to make it work properly is also a no go for me.

That's a giant failure. I don't mind buying old things and jerry rigging but I'm not going to do it for a new product. Especially from a company I once considered at least reputable mostly.

So this vacuum unfortunately appears to be garbage. And that's sad.
@Vacuum Facts doesn't want us to jump to conclusions. Why don't we ask him like I have been occasionally doing? It's not like he'll willing to reveal anything but mythbusting until all major reviewers released their respective (and definitely deemed by him as cookie-cutters not worth it)? Wouldn't it be easier to ask for the mod, so people can be more confident?

@vac14012 it's not like the mod are excruciatingly hard to do. But what the heck?
I noticed in one of the TechRadar reviews they mentioned the boost mode having more battery life as a pro. But failed to mention it's only that way because they lowered the performance. Not because of any actual improvements.

In fact the whole 315AW number from Dyson is like false advertising then.

I also noticed Dyson didn't put any seals or anything on the dust compressor system so if you notice dust just collects on the edges and will probably scratch the bin if you don't constantly take the bin off and clean the vacuum. Terrible.

Frankly it doesn't appear to my eyes losing the first stage cyclone was worth this feature. Emptying the bin on the V10-Gen5 is easy and like well over 90% of the contents are expelled when you press it down into the garbage. As long as your garbage isn't full there won't be any real dust clouds either.
Are you sure it's misleading?

Dust compression, too!
 
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@Vacuum Facts doesn't want us to jump to conclusions. Why don't we ask him like I have been occasionally doing? It's not like he'll willing to reveal anything but mythbusting until all major reviewers released their respective (and definitely deemed by him as cookie-cutters not worth it)? Wouldn't it be easier to ask for the mod, so people can be more confident?
It would be much more interesting to hear what you think about the subject rather than what you think Vacuum Facts thinks about the subject.
 
It would be much more interesting to hear what you think about the subject rather than what you think Vacuum Facts thinks about the subject.
Ok...
1) Dyson V16 is clearly a legendary vacuum held down and crippled by Dyson's suits' newfound stupidity. (The new head isn't to blame, unlike TechRadar's review thinks, but rather it's how the motor works only half in Boost and under 80% power in Auto/Med)
2) I like Dyson machines because they works innovatively. I thank Dyson's R&D for that, but cannot buy any of their machines precisely because they're expensive.
3) https://vacuumland.org/threads/pick-your-poison-main-equivalency.46775/
4) I defended Vacuum Facts because he's much more objective than your average reviewers.
5) Why did people prefer old bagged cords than the advanced cyclonic cordless eventual main-equivalents?
 

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