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It's really stupid that the new robot vacuum has the cyclone on the auto emptying dock but not the actual vacuum like the VisNav. That means the actual vacuuming performance is going to be terrible, it'll just clog and lose suction like other non cyclone bagless systems. Unless there's some technology they're not talking about in the robot itself.

I also think they should just be honest about working with Picea instead of trying to hide it, looks desperate and dumb. And frankly it's sad to look at the very obviously not Dyson looking robot vac next to the other products made exclusively in house. The PencilVac for example is such a fun and innovative product, and the Robot is the complete opposite.
 
I'd love to know how many people who've tried and liked a cordless stick vac would ever go back to a mains machine. I haven't and never would.

Er, can you provide a simple link to this mystical literature that makes this claim and directly conflicts with their other literature saying it's a lifetime filter? There's nothing in the V16 manual about replacing it, which directly conficts with your statement.

You're peddling total nonsense. It's common knowledge that Dyson filters and brushrolls etc. are lifetime and never need replacing unless they have been abused and neglected. There are no running costs on their machines. Anyone who claims differently is required to provide convincing evidence...and not a dot has ever been provided when they've been challenged. That tells you all you need to know.
I have to completely disagree with you on brush rolls.
They absolutely need replacing, carbon fibre bristles wear down and with detangling vanes, nylon bristles wear down too.
 
Well, on some older machines, like the V6 (no longer sold), the carbon fibre bristles, which are extremely delicate, could wear away for some people (not all). Usually if you ran over nails sticking out and such. That was an exception than a rule, since they redesigned them later to not fail that like. It's also true that the V15/Gen5 nylon and carbon fibre bristles wear down in the regions where they hit the comb vanes (and why such technology is a bit shit), but the brushbar still works effectively that I can't really quantify a significant difference. So, I'm not convinced you have to replace those. In general, you never need to replace a roller (unless abused).
 
Interesting, but this is not apples to apples. The technology isn't just 'does it go over the same spot again', it's (for wet cleaners specifically) does it detect a heavy stain, does it check after it has attempted to clean it to confirm it's removed, if not does it return and make as many attempts as necessary until it's gone? It's not clear this 2012 samsung machine is doing that from that promo, nor could it since it's a dry vac and not a stain remover.
 
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