Dyson Cinetic Launched in Canada

[sebo_fan]

It is most bizarre when people on here fight against the Dyson mantra and those who are for it.

The "no loss of suction" merely reiterates the multi cyclonic design of prolonging suction, often in early Dysons being able to go well past the "max fill" mark and still expect the vacuum to pick up dust and dirt.


 


It does not refer to cleaning filters, or having a filter on board. Filters are there to filter after all. They are not put in place to catch all the dust that the vacuum cleaner picks up. The only aspect that changes is with the design of the cyclones and how variable dust is put through the shrouds before it lands at the bottom of the bins.


 


The design element that brands have put in place in reality mean that some filter do indeed do more than filter and catch lots of viewable dust. But that's because some brands persist in making single cyclones as opposed to many. 


 


I've said it before and I'll say it again - I like the prolonged loss of suction power in a Dyson vacuum - however I do not like the plastic designs and I am not in favour of Dyson over the healthier proposition of dust in a bag. Bags may clog but they're a heck of a lot easier and far more hygienic.

 

[dys0nb0y]

It is is a picture of a vax with Multi cyclonic and here is a picture filter and cyclones and before it's all been cleaned out two weeks before and this is all the stuff it gets in two weeks

 

[dys0nb0y]

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[dys0nb0y]

Here's a picture of seven months old dc39 that I never clean the filter it was used every day

 

[dys0nb0y]

And also bags are pretty expensive in time if y use the bag machine in my house I would have to replace the bag every three days

 

[sebo_fan]

I highly doubt you would have to replace a bag every three days but it depends on the brand, model and dust bag capacity. On the basis that your Dyson DC39 has a 2 litre dust capacity, most dust bags on larger vacs have capacities of 4.5 litre, 5 litres and 7 litres or more if you have a Numatic.


 


 

 

[blakaeg]

dysonb0y,

Please can you make a claim against a proper Vax multi cyclonic next time. That is a very poor comparison you make there. The Mach Air machine for example is a proper cyclone cleaner and the filtration ability of the cyclones are excellent. Two of my friends have them and they rarely need to touch the Pre a Motor filter.

As with what Sebo_Fan says, it is very unlikely that one will change their bag every 3 days LOL. You 're not making much sense there fella!

Sebo_Fan,

My friend noticed some loss of suction with the Felix she has since the change over to the Ultra Bags. The dust sticks to the sides due to the static nature of the 'Electrete' material. She's not that keen and reckons the paper was better, but she simply pushes the dirt down the hole with a wooden spoon and the bag indicator clears again. The bag lasts ages in the Felix as the dirt seems to get pushed downwards inside the bag. She's never had to replace the filter in the 3 years she's had the machine, so the Ultra Bag must be doing its job.

 

[dys0nb0y]

It Is a proper Multi cyclonic It says it on the Vax And it's not a poor comparison I was showing a terrible multi cyclonic and a great Multi cyclonic you obviously didn't get it And the vax Mach air has great Multi cyclonic it does a great job but not perfect it still lets through some hair and clumps of dust but probably the second-best cyclone technology and is the Vac air 3 A good enough comparison I know someone who's got one of them and I'll be going round there in a few days I have already had to completely strip it as it would clogged to heck it done properly have to do it again and I'll take some pictures

 

[super-sweeper]

Rainbow in the 1930s, Filter-Queen in the 1940s, You're telling me Dyson was the first bagless vacuum in 1993? Oh please, Even Fantom was around under their commercial name, "Vectron", by 1984! Who on earth cares about a wimpy turbine-head, i wonder why you need one on bare floors, Guess Dyson couldn't get the dirt without it. Powered Nozzles are the way to go, I'd love to see Dyson dig into a rug and remove dirt like none other. Time and time again i state that Dysons are lies, A lie you're unfortunately trapped in, dysonboy. Dyson can cram as many cyclones as they want into their vacuum, I've proven time and time again that Fantom is the more efficient cleaner. the amount of sand and fine particles the Dyson leaves behind is shocking, especially when people are forking out $700 to be a show-off to the neighbors. even with a broken cyclone, the Fantom had no problem with cleaning and filtering sand. 


 


Parwaz, You're finally getting it, Dyson isn't what it says it is! 

 

[dys0nb0y]

Dyson was the first to make the first cyclonic vacuum cleaner fantom and vectron were only allowed to make these machines as Dyson allowed them to do it The fast cyclonic machine was the cyclone that was only available in England and I was only 500 ever made can promise you one thing Dysons turbine head is not Wimpy at all it's the best turbine head ever made a powerhead with good bristles and fast motor will probably clean better but not all of them well clean better and turbine hired has a button to turn off the brush to go on hard floors and in England we don't have Powerheads on our machines and the turbine head is probably the best one The turbine head is like a powerhead that without a motor you haven't proven that fantom cleans better you have no evidence at all and the cyclone technology and that is just the same as the old English Dysons in fact all the stuff you say about Dyson has no proof at tall and parwaz don't listen to them they are trying to turn into the dark side PS a Dyson DC 65 with clean 10 times better than the Fantom and here is a video of a Dyson DC 28 cleaning better then a Fantom

 

[sptyks]

dys0nb0y:

It's time for you to give up!


Don't you know when you've been outgunned?


There are many superior vacuums that are so much better than Dyson.


Take Kirby for one. any Kirby can outclean a dyson, and a Kirby doesn't even have any cyclones in it.

 

[dys0nb0y]

Of course the Kirby without clean Dyson I never said it did

 

[dys0nb0y]

I will never back down have been taught to no let people walk all over and put you down

 

[sebo_fan]

You wont back down until you are proved otherwise..

Actually Dyson was NOT the first to make a cyclonic vacuum cleaner - the first was made in the U.S

See thread: http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?22012

Also a screenshot of some factual info you might find interesting:

 

[dys0nb0y]

Yeah but it's technically a bag it's a paper cone that you have to replace and it Is not no loss of suction doesn't separate The Dust from there airflow like the new Dysons do but I do like them as they look really cool

 

[sebo_fan]

blakaeg - I haven't noticed a loss of suction with the new Ultra bags and I don't think anyone else has who has the Felix model and newer bags.

I think you friend needs to stop worrying and let the bag fill. The new bags actually increase filling to 15%. I've noticed it myself. I can get 4 months out of the newer Ultra bag compared to 3 months with the paper ones.

The only difference with the paper bags is that the dust falls to the bottom but ALSO the paper dust bags have extra layers of paper built in where dust clings to the sides like the newer filtrete material - you would notice this if you were to cut open a SEBO paper dust bag.

Also unlike the paper bags, the Ultra ones can actually be reused a second time by shaking it out and actually has the ability to turn inside out to be either vacuumed clean or brushed clean.

What a pity I can't seem to do that with Miele's GN bags. But then SEBO aren't out to rip their owners off...

 

[man114]

DC28 vs. Fantom Thunder

Don't believe this video unless the Thunder isn't at the right height setting or has badly worn brush roller, and it is too dim to really see anything. I've used a DC33 and Thunder/Domestic many times, the Dyson brush roller isnt particularly effective on a lot of types of carpets, and I doubt a turbine one is going to be much better. It just seems like a lot to fork over for its ability, I can think there are probably better units for not much more.

 

[dys0nb0y]

The DC 33 is completely different to DC 28 DC 28 has more suction more agitation and better cyclone technology but I do wish we have fantom in the United Kingdom as they look so good

 

[super-sweeper]

He's been out-gunned 84 times now. Did you never see the test I did with my Fantom and DC07? I sure as bwerk have factual evidence. I put the Fantom and Dyson up to the same amount of sand, 3 times. The Fantom won all three. You shouldn't make such claims without researching. A bag, water, rather you like it or not, ALL vacuums have a filter material, even Dyson. Dyson has filters, which means Dyson uses bags. Yep, that's right. A bag is a filter, and a filter is a bag. They both requirement replacement over time. There is no way of avoiding this. Bagless is nothing more than a fancy bag, as in bagless, filters require replacement.in bagged vacuums, bags require replacement...are you getting any of this or am I wasting my breath? You need to understand there's faults in Dyson, faults that can and will not be corrected until James loses money.


 


Oh, and power-nozzles rule, that turbo nozzle won't do a thing when it runs out of batteries! Before you know it, all Dysons will have that turbo nozzle, and they all will be cordless. Dyson says he cut the hassle of the cord, what hassle? It's going to be a HUGE hassle when the battery dies. Why wait for it to charge when I can have much-better cleaning power, on demand, and for as long as I want? I really need to throw better-built vacuums at my DC07 more often, maybe after 248 videos, the world will see that even the common Bissell can triumph over Dyson.

 

[dys0nb0y]

Ashley I did see your test for the Fantom and you use the machine that is discontinued and I don't make any more so that really isn't any evidence and I know The DC 07 isn't that good and also when I saw that video and you were doing the hose suction and the dc07 wasn't doing anything I think you must tampered or The machine was just broken there is the DC07 as it has more suction and Bagless machines don't have bags they have filters you can run under the tap and squeeze bags you have two replace and buy them And how many times have I got to say all bagless machines will eventuall lose suction if you don't clean the filter I know that Just Dyson doesn't let through as much as others and batteries cordless Dyson has nothing to do with this and bissell has nothing to do this either well is 4 o'clock in England and I've got to go to bed when you make a video of a Dyson DC 65 and the Fantom I will believe you