The most unfit for purpose machine you have come across?

[baglessball]

I wonder what other models of vacuum you guys hate, and why?

Many HOOVER UK Dustmanger models get me, you vacuum one room and have to empty and clean filters before you can do the next. Complete joke. Who tested these?

 

[lunchboxsean]

Any Dyson with a Turbo Brush...

 

[baglessball]

See i think they nearly have it with the tubine head. I think if had stiff bristes and a high torque turbine itd be good!

But it doesnt, so is a diapointment!

 

[sleepdoc]

Hate to say it...

The Dyson DC21 and DC23 Motorhead. The unprecedentedly long nozzle makes using small attachments nearly impossible. It's a great carpet cleaner, but the only thing that makes it functionally different from an upright is the floor brush that allows it to clean wood floors better than an upright. The turbine models don't have this problem, but I don't like the turbinehead attachments because they're less effective on carpet. Dyson really needs to get it right with the canisters.

 

[lunchboxsean]

Another one would be... Virtually all hand vacs!! Cmon... Aren't they horrible usually?

 

[twocvbloke]

Now, I would usually just say Dyson for something like this, but, I'll have to say the Electrolux Vitesse (aka, Eureka Maxima, Minima more like), I had one and it was pathetic, it flicked more dirt at my feet (painfully!!) than it picked up, it screamed, it whined, and just didn't do as it was supposed to, it was like a stroppy child!! So glad I part-exchanged that for my old Kirby G5, what a massive improvement that was!!!

 

[broomvac]

I guess you could call it a vacuum

How about this...thing?

 

[gsheen]

dyson dc23 animal with turbine head, those turbine heads don't work well and always break, I agree they have almost created a god one but the fact that its centred bushes can't handle the weight of the brushes and were out all the time. not my favorite. I see they have a new design out on the dc36/39 will see how that works when it gets to us 

 

[baglessball]

Is it the same design that is used on the Dc35?

Totally agree with the motorhead models of dyson! Not really fuctional for canister work, especially with the wand been so bulky.. i find the motorhead a bit too big and numb too. if they had only used the swivel collar as a connection point (the part where the extra bit of hose and then the wand is connected)so you could connect the tools direct to the end of the hose, i think this would of overall improved the vac alot!!

Electrolux vitesse - shat! Even a new filter seem to restrict airflow, filter clogs so fast. So the brushbar is what does all the work.

 

[baglessball]

Sean do you mean rechargable hand vacs, or mains one?

 

[gsheen]

hey Shaun 


 


I like the motor head  machines especially the dc21 but the turbine head air driven brush is not very good at all 

 

[rainbowd4c]

The Bissell Powerforce Turbo. The hose and attachments are horrible to use and it broke my face.

 

[lunchboxsean]

I mean virtually all hand vacs. Though, cordless ones are even worse.

 

[baglessball]

I love the performance of the motorheads, its just for the money i think they should be spot on. Like the ease of use and stuff>

I was really disappointed in the turbine head aswell. Although i am used to usng an upright> I think it is popular over hear as most cyclinder vacs dont have PN's just the standard floor head, so anything seems better than them! i do wish we had more cyclinders with PN though..

I own the dc23 motorhead and have to say i am also a little disappointed in the root level 3 cyclone, i thought it would seperate nearly all dust but lets only a little less through than the previous cyclones.

Dyson should be making a cyclone that can completeley seperate drywall/plaser dust! That would be good!

 

[scvacuumguy]

I mean virtually all hand vacs. Though, cordless ones are ev

I definitely disagree with that one. A good bit of our impulse sales are made up of hand vacs. If you use them for their purpose, then they are actually very good. Upholstery, stairs, boats, and cars are some of the uses for these guys. Some of my favorites:

Royal Pro Series Hand Vac (bagless version of the original Royal Handvac from the 80s)
This thing has a 4 year warranty, nice helix brushroll and is fairly reasonably priced

Hoover Lynx Cordless Handvac
Haven't had a single one in for warranty or had any complaints and we have sold quite a few of them.

Dyson Cordless
Don't have much experience with them, but people seem to like them

Riccar Gem Hand Vac
Full set of attachments, great suction, and bargain priced at $32.99

 

[lunchboxsean]

Thats awesome! But you are listing only the very highest end of the segment. Ofcourse Royals and Riccars are going to be a step above the rest. Have you ever used a Black and Decker dust buster, of any form? What about the miserable eureka and hoover hand helds and even Dirt Devil, most of their hand helds are aweful, except for the ones that are still based on the old Royal models.

 

[scvacuumguy]

I've never wasted the money to buy a dust buster- those are pure filth. I was just correcting your statement that ALL handvacs are a waste....

Agreed that dustbusters are junk.

 

[Sanifan]

In defense of the Dyson DC23 Turbinehead...

I'll go ahead and throw my experience with the DC23 Turbinehead out there - I love mine and find that the turbine head works well with the carpet I have. I'm very happy with its performance. Now, I know everyone has different carpet and vacs perform differently on different carpet media, so I totally respect the bad experiences out there.

Luckily, I am moving to a house with fir flooring, so the DC23 will be in it's element using straight suction and a hard floor tool.

I've never used the motorhead version. I can see, though, how attachments would be very hard to use if you can't take off the extension tube.

As for poorly designed vacs, I'd say any bagless that depends on a pleated filter as the first filtering stage (directly inside the bin) falls into that category. Those filters clog after every use and need to be cleaned off each time - or else no suction! And those filters need to be replaced too often! That's one thing the Dyson tackles really well. At least that's my experience with the DC23's Root 3 cyclone. Good separation and filtration, so very low maintenance in that regard.

Also, any vac that has a cord less than 35 feet does not work for me. OK, I speak as a building manager and it's a pain to deal with extra extension cords in the hallways. I actually love 40 and 50 foot cords. I'd say any vac with a 25 foot cord is poorly thought out.

By the way, I've heard that the turbinehead for the DC23 is prone to failure. I've never had an issue with mine. I'm curious as to what the failure mechanism is on those. One member suggested the brushes would over-rev if the head were not in contact with carpet, and possibly get damaged. Is that how the turbine head fails?

And I guess people don't like the performance of the small hand held turbine attachment for Dyson?

 

[turbo500]

twocvbloke....

I completely agree with your choice. My other half has an Electrolux Gazzelle (which is a rebaged Vitesse) and I honestly cannot express how much hatred I have for that cheap heap of plastic! The only reason it picks up anything is because it has the most aggressive brushroll of any machine I've used. The suction is poor, the tools are cheap and it's PAINFULLY loud!

I don't really like bagless vacuums, and I do hold Dyson purely responsible for the heap of cheap, crappy bagless uprights on the market today. I always say, if you're gonna go bagless, get a Dyson or a Vax Mach.

Having said that, the current range of Hoover Pureshite..SORRY Purepower bagged vacuums are pretty horrid. Very average performance, stupidly high wattage motors that get too hot and cheaply made.

Btw baglessball - nice to see some more Yorkshire folk appearing on here. Where are you from?