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I wonder what other models of vacuum you guys hate, and why?

Many HOOVER UK Dustmanger models get me, you vacuum one room and have to empty and clean filters before you can do the next. Complete joke. Who tested these?
 
See i think they nearly have it with the tubine head. I think if had stiff bristes and a high torque turbine itd be good!

But it doesnt, so is a diapointment!
 
Hate to say it...

The Dyson DC21 and DC23 Motorhead. The unprecedentedly long nozzle makes using small attachments nearly impossible. It's a great carpet cleaner, but the only thing that makes it functionally different from an upright is the floor brush that allows it to clean wood floors better than an upright. The turbine models don't have this problem, but I don't like the turbinehead attachments because they're less effective on carpet. Dyson really needs to get it right with the canisters.
 
Now, I would usually just say Dyson for something like this, but, I'll have to say the Electrolux Vitesse (aka, Eureka Maxima, Minima more like), I had one and it was pathetic, it flicked more dirt at my feet (painfully!!) than it picked up, it screamed, it whined, and just didn't do as it was supposed to, it was like a stroppy child!! So glad I part-exchanged that for my old Kirby G5, what a massive improvement that was!!!

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dyson dc23 animal with turbine head, those turbine heads don't work well and always break, I agree they have almost created a god one but the fact that its centred bushes can't handle the weight of the brushes and were out all the time. not my favorite. I see they have a new design out on the dc36/39 will see how that works when it gets to us 
 
Is it the same design that is used on the Dc35?

Totally agree with the motorhead models of dyson! Not really fuctional for canister work, especially with the wand been so bulky.. i find the motorhead a bit too big and numb too. if they had only used the swivel collar as a connection point (the part where the extra bit of hose and then the wand is connected)so you could connect the tools direct to the end of the hose, i think this would of overall improved the vac alot!!

Electrolux vitesse - shat! Even a new filter seem to restrict airflow, filter clogs so fast. So the brushbar is what does all the work.
 
I love the performance of the motorheads, its just for the money i think they should be spot on. Like the ease of use and stuff>

I was really disappointed in the turbine head aswell. Although i am used to usng an upright> I think it is popular over hear as most cyclinder vacs dont have PN's just the standard floor head, so anything seems better than them! i do wish we had more cyclinders with PN though..

I own the dc23 motorhead and have to say i am also a little disappointed in the root level 3 cyclone, i thought it would seperate nearly all dust but lets only a little less through than the previous cyclones.

Dyson should be making a cyclone that can completeley seperate drywall/plaser dust! That would be good!
 
I mean virtually all hand vacs. Though, cordless ones are ev

I definitely disagree with that one. A good bit of our impulse sales are made up of hand vacs. If you use them for their purpose, then they are actually very good. Upholstery, stairs, boats, and cars are some of the uses for these guys. Some of my favorites:

Royal Pro Series Hand Vac (bagless version of the original Royal Handvac from the 80s)
This thing has a 4 year warranty, nice helix brushroll and is fairly reasonably priced

Hoover Lynx Cordless Handvac
Haven't had a single one in for warranty or had any complaints and we have sold quite a few of them.

Dyson Cordless
Don't have much experience with them, but people seem to like them

Riccar Gem Hand Vac
Full set of attachments, great suction, and bargain priced at $32.99
 
Thats awesome! But you are listing only the very highest end of the segment. Ofcourse Royals and Riccars are going to be a step above the rest. Have you ever used a Black and Decker dust buster, of any form? What about the miserable eureka and hoover hand helds and even Dirt Devil, most of their hand helds are aweful, except for the ones that are still based on the old Royal models.
 
I've never wasted the money to buy a dust buster- those are pure filth. I was just correcting your statement that ALL handvacs are a waste....

Agreed that dustbusters are junk.
 
In defense of the Dyson DC23 Turbinehead...

I'll go ahead and throw my experience with the DC23 Turbinehead out there - I love mine and find that the turbine head works well with the carpet I have. I'm very happy with its performance. Now, I know everyone has different carpet and vacs perform differently on different carpet media, so I totally respect the bad experiences out there.

Luckily, I am moving to a house with fir flooring, so the DC23 will be in it's element using straight suction and a hard floor tool.

I've never used the motorhead version. I can see, though, how attachments would be very hard to use if you can't take off the extension tube.

As for poorly designed vacs, I'd say any bagless that depends on a pleated filter as the first filtering stage (directly inside the bin) falls into that category. Those filters clog after every use and need to be cleaned off each time - or else no suction! And those filters need to be replaced too often! That's one thing the Dyson tackles really well. At least that's my experience with the DC23's Root 3 cyclone. Good separation and filtration, so very low maintenance in that regard.

Also, any vac that has a cord less than 35 feet does not work for me. OK, I speak as a building manager and it's a pain to deal with extra extension cords in the hallways. I actually love 40 and 50 foot cords. I'd say any vac with a 25 foot cord is poorly thought out.

By the way, I've heard that the turbinehead for the DC23 is prone to failure. I've never had an issue with mine. I'm curious as to what the failure mechanism is on those. One member suggested the brushes would over-rev if the head were not in contact with carpet, and possibly get damaged. Is that how the turbine head fails?

And I guess people don't like the performance of the small hand held turbine attachment for Dyson?
 
twocvbloke....

I completely agree with your choice. My other half has an Electrolux Gazzelle (which is a rebaged Vitesse) and I honestly cannot express how much hatred I have for that cheap heap of plastic! The only reason it picks up anything is because it has the most aggressive brushroll of any machine I've used. The suction is poor, the tools are cheap and it's PAINFULLY loud!

I don't really like bagless vacuums, and I do hold Dyson purely responsible for the heap of cheap, crappy bagless uprights on the market today. I always say, if you're gonna go bagless, get a Dyson or a Vax Mach.

Having said that, the current range of Hoover Pureshite..SORRY Purepower bagged vacuums are pretty horrid. Very average performance, stupidly high wattage motors that get too hot and cheaply made.

Btw baglessball - nice to see some more Yorkshire folk appearing on here. Where are you from?
 
 The dc23 is our most troublesome dyson  due only to the turbine head. the turbine that drives it shatters and the bushes in the main axle dry out and become clogged with dust, they are always jamming up and breaking. I love dysons but not that turbine head. I prefer to sell a customer an upright model , they not only clean better but last longer and in my opinion are more woth the money than the cylinders 
 
I had a Hoover PureCrap, 1500 or 1800w model I think, hated it cos it wouldn't stay upright (belt had in the past slipped off and melted the little lock ring thingy so refused to lock upright), but it was bagged so didn't hate it as much as the Vitesse, but it was too loud, didn't pick up well and of course was just a plastivac, but, it was free and helped me feel better one day when my hammer made love to it... :P

The cable from that incidentally wend onto my Hoover Junior U1104, so, a modern Candy-Hoover (as opposed to TTI-Hoover) gave it's life and saved a retro Hoover-hoover, but is didn't like that Junior so sold it on cos it was more worth selling than the Purecrap...
 
I haven't used a Dyson canister yet but I don't understand why they stopped offering an electric power nozzle in the US. How can they think their turbo nozzles will compete with other canister vacs sold here in the same price range?

Can anyone explain why electric power nozzle canisters are rarely offered in the UK? I know there is probably less wall to wall carpet, but even if you have an area rug, it still needs a good deep cleaning.



BTW, I think one of the worst vacs created were the old Bissell Lift Off upright, it was a very akward machine.
 
Hi

Hi Steven, I'm not sure why here in the UK we rarely have cylinders with electric power nozzles. I doubt it's to do with us having less wall to wall carpet now. Not that long ago most homes in the UK had wall to wall carpet.

Most of the time we've had a stronger upright market so if someone wants a electric powered revolving brush roller they have gone for a upright over a cylinder/canister with a electric head that is normally more expensive. And kept to cylinders with straight suction head/air driven turbine if they prefer that style vac.
If you go in to Europe they seem to sell far more cylinders than uprights.
Hence they seem to get more cylinders with electric heads.

Interesting question tho:o)

James:o)
 
Oh

Oh and vacuum cleaners I'm not keen on are ones sold by big chain stores under there name.
Not made by them just bought in cheap from the far east and they put there name on them.Then when customers want parts(bags,belts,filters,body spares etc) for them they become very quickly no longer available/obsolete so they will go out and buy another one of there cheap poor quality vacuum cleaner.

James:o)
 
XXX "Royal Clown [oops, Crown] Signature Series" bagless cyclonic canister vac.

Almost any of today's dept. store vacs are junk. :)

Here's a pic of the Royal Clown (sorry, I mean Royal Crown Signature s--t) made by XXX Corporation

XXX is now owned by Ningbo Electric of Shanghai, China.

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Dirt Devil Vision Ultra

We have one at work. Its only good point is that it has a great brushroll. Otherwise it has the worst designed dirt container, and every bit of fine dust goes straight to the tiny little filter, meaning after about 10 minutes, its suction is reduced to barely anything.

Also, it is loudest vacuum I have ever used! Makes my windtunnel seem like a whisper!
 
I have never been able to understand the usefulness of uprights which do not allow you to shut off the brush roll, and yet still have a "bare floor" setting on their height adjuster! Who would ever want to scratch their floor surfaces with these rapidly revolving brush rolls? Even if the suction was good enough to over-ride the "blowing" effect of the spinning brush roll?

And these kind of uprights are the worst offenders when it comes to jammed brush rolls - their suction draws in unseen socks and plastic bags too fast for you to grab them off the bare floor to prevent jamming the brushroll.

I also can't see how these vacs can ever be approved for safety when you use their hoses for above the floor cleaning. If you can't shut off the brush roll, you are just inviting injuries as the spinning brush in the raised nozzle can grab onto anything in its path and can injure feet and hands if you're not careful. They should prohibit any upright from being marketed for non-carpet use unless you can stop or cover the brush roll.
 
Here's a head-scratcher oddity.

I really like the cute & compact size of the DC26 Multi Floor ultra-lightweight bagless canister vacuum for all floor types. Dyson's smallest, lightest canister.

And I like the motor-driven floor nozzle on the rechargeable DC35.
The rechargeable itself, not so much.

http://www.dyson.com/store/product.asp?product=DC35-IRSBL

I always thought it was a no-brainer to pair the two together. Finally Dyson has done it. I am very interested and will consider getting one.

US$399.99 for the DC26 Multi Floor on the USA website.

http://www.dyson.com/store/product.asp?product=DC26-CFIRSB

BUT, in Canada you can only get the DC26 Multi Floor with the cleverly articulated flat Dual channel floor tool and the Turbine head. No electrified hose or motor-driven nozzle option.
It's the truth - I downloaded the User manuals for both and yup, no electrified hose or telescopic wand or motor-driven nozzle option.

And they want and expect CN$499.99 for it? $100 more plus 13% tax? WTF!!!

http://www.english.dysoncanada.ca/store/product.asp?product=DC26-WOODWOOL

My mama didn't raise her no dumb bunnies.
I wonder which state I'll be in that has the lowest sales tax?
Mmm, looks like Wisconsin is the winner at 5%.
Oh yeah, babe, Best Buy has it in stock.
Dave

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