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BTW, The AE pictured above clearly shows the ADDED Power Nozzle electrical outlet. The P/N came out after the AE (actually during the AF run)and many salesmen went back and converted these machines after they sold the 'Revolutionary' Power Nozzle to exisiting customers. I remember watching our local Luxman installing the outlet which required him to make a cut in the side of the aluminum trim. The outlet was pre-wired with eyelets for relatively easy electrical addition/installation <br
OK, I admit it. I'm over 27 <br
Rick
 
AE Bonanza!

I love it!! We don't see Electroluxes featured nearly enough here. :)

I have four AEs, each a little different. One is like "Mama's" with a chrome halo instead of a cord winder, two have the early cord winder without the aluminum band around the perimeter, and one has the later "Early AF Style" cord winder with the aluminum band. All four are in immaculate condition.

Following are photos showing the two different cord winder models.

The machine showing the early style is a particularly rare specimen. Electrolux used to "lend" machines to high school Home Economics classes. Note the badge on the side of the machine.

This particular machine must not have been put to very much Home-Ec instructional use: It was in near-mint condition when I got it, with the original hose in unbelievably new condition, original cord with Belden plug, optional accessories including polisher, sprayer and vaporizer! It even had an ORIGINAL Model AE bag inside, AND a filter in the rear end that had not a speck of schmutz on it!

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Another one of my AEs

Here are some photos of my third AE, the "halo version."

Note the ribbed silver hose - actually from a Royal upright attachment set! But the color matches the silver trim of the AE perfectly, and this is the hose I use when I use one of my AEs for "real cleaning." I do have a couple of original AE hoses in excellent shape but I am afraid to risk damaging them, so I don't use them too often.

A curious thing about this particular specimen... All four of my AEs sound and perform alike except the latest one with the silver rim around the cord winder and that is to be expected since Electrolux did beef up the motor somewhat toward the end of the AE. (The early AE had the same motor as the E and LX/LXI, then the latter AE has the same motor as the AF and turquoise G, then when the tan G came out there was another slight increase in power and then that was the same motor until the Super-J.)

The other two AEs, the two with the older-style cord winder, have the same suction power, slightly less than the newer version, but this one with the halo has significantly less power than any of them.

It sounds exactly like the other two early models, but for some reason it is noticeably less powerful than them. I haven't measured them on an air pressure meter; I can tell this machine is weaker by its lesser performance and also by the less-strong sound of air flow through the floor nozzle.

It's not the hose -- obviously this is an airtight hose. It's not the bag or the filter (I go back and forth with the rear-end filters -- sometimes I like having one in and sometimes I don't.) All the variables are the same yet this machine is, as I said, clearly less powerful than the other two early versions.

Anyone have any idea how this could be? I sure am puzzled about it!

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Ken Wagman's AE

Someone mentioned Ken Wagman's AE. Does he subscribe to this Forum? I'd love to see photos of it since they said it's in fabulous condition!
 
Great looking Electrolux

Where did you find the attachments for your Royal upright? I would like to find a nice set with the metal wand like the one displayed in your pics.

Thanks. Mike
 
Royal Hose

Only the flexible part is Royal. The metal ends are Electrolux. It did take some doing to pry off the Royal ends. I soaked the hose in very hot water and then pried the ends off with a screwdriver.

I have found a couple of these hoses 'going solo' at thrift shops.
 
Thanks Charles...

Eventually, I want to get a set of attachments for my Royal upright, so I appreciate the heads up. I still have to locate the thrift stores and vac shops in my area and check them out.
 
AE Wands

Now, here's a burning question for y'all AE (and AF) nuts.

Those who remember them from childhood -- did they have the heavy chrome-plated steels wands, or the later light-weight aluminum wands?

My parents' AE had the steel wands. I remember them very vividly, especially since I was the one who did most of the vacuuming, haha!

The first time I saw the lightweight aluminum wands, on a Model G, I thought they were cheap and flimsy and considered them a slide downhill for Electrolux. What does a 12-year-old know?!

When my mom got the tan G, of course it came with the aluminum wands. She also retained the chrome wands from the AE. Her idea was that the added wands would make it easier to dust around the corners of the ceiling. However, I don't recall her ever using three or four wands at the same time.

I was very surprised -- and not at all convinced -- when another Electrolux nut asserted that the AE came with the light-weight wands as I was sure that was not the case with our machine, nor with the other two AEs that I saw on a very frequent basis -- two of my friends' families had them (both with the early-style cord winders). Again, my memories of the wands are very vivid.

Then one day I won a later-AE on eBay, with the later cord winder. And lo and behold, it came with aluminum wands, albeit they were a little bit different from all the other ones I have seen. The surface is kinda, well, how do I describe it -- burnished I guess. You know how the Constellation wands were? Not shiny but with a velvety finish? That's what these AE wands are like. It's the only set I've ever seen like it. All the other aluminum wands I've seen are smooth and, when new, fairly shiny. So my assumption is that the new light-weight wands came out with the late AE, at the same time the motor was upgraded and the cord winder was slightly revised.

On the other hand, that doesn't fully explain all the AFs I recall seeing as a child ... with steel wands!

(All these AFs that I am about to tell about were the early-style AFs with the flip-open cord winder.)

One of them in particular, I saw (and used of course!) very frequently. Mrs. Woody, one of the nice church ladies, would often have me over to her house "to get me out of my mama's hair" and she'd let me vacuum with her AF. And it had steel wands.

As did Mrs. Peterson's, the lady next door. She also had a turquoise Johnson Wax electric polisher that I was just crazy about!

So did Mrs. Respass's, the lady in the big three-story house on the water who also had an XXX in her "outhouse." (In that part of Virginia, "outhouse" was not an outdoor privy but a small building, usually where the washer and dryer were kept, and/or the husband's tools and stuff. Miss Eleanor's outhouse was very nice - finished off with checkered linoleum flooring.)

Then there was another lady who lived "up the road" from our house who did not go to our church so I did not know her. One summer day I was walking past her house and I heard a vacuum cleaner running. Of course, I knocked on the door wanting to see it! It was an AF, and it had steel wands. Again, I remember this very vividly.

Then there was the one at the church where we lived from 1960 to 1965. It was stored in a little cubbyhole under the stairs leading up to the main floor. It too had steel wands.

In fact, I cannot ever recall seeing a single AF with aluminum wands until I was a teenager living in Maryland. My friend Ray's mother had the later AF with the donut cord winder, and it had the aluminum wands. Since I had only seen those wands on Rs and Gs, I assumed they were replacements.

Soooooo....... I am curious to hear other peoples' "AE and AF wand recollections!"
 
Then there was the one at the church where we lived from 196

That should read, "Then there was the one at the church in the town where we lived from 1960 to 1965."


Oh and P.S., my friend Ray's mother, with the later AF - also had an LX that she just loved, but did not use anymore because it didn't pick up very well, she said. So I offered to take it home and have a look at it.

Of course, the only problem with it was the hose - it leaked like a sieve. I got her a new turquoise L hose (with all-metal handle), took the machine apart and cleaned it up, and machine-polished all the metal trim. Wow, it sure was pretty when all shined up! That dark turqoise hose actually looks really nice with the LX.

I took it over to Ray's house. When his mom saw it, she just got all excited and exclaimed, "Oh MY goodness! That's just so wonderful!" She dropped what she was doing and immediately hooked the machine up and started vacuuming with it! She was so happy, she gave me her less-preferred Model F! I was very surprised and happy to get it, because it was in practically new condition!
 
Hey, Charles...

You have mentioned on your website and through other threads on DOV that the thrift T lux was made up of parts from any number of sources. Do you think that this could have been happening with the wands? I would be curious too, what were the Canadian machines being fitted with during this time period? I wonder if they, (Electrolux) were practiceing what Harley-Davidson was doing and keeping minimum parts supplies to keep inventory costs down, or if they were buying from multiple suppliers, etc. I'm going to throw an other wrench in the gears here be telling this little story. I had to be seven or eight years old and a neighbor across the alley had two "rich folks" vacuum cleaners. One was a Kirby, (can't tell you what model, only that it had red parts), for the rugs. The other machine was a Lux E, strictly for above the floor, dusting, etc. Being interested in tank cleaners. the E was the one that got most of my attention. And I remember that machine had steel wands with the XXX-type logo embossed at the female end with the slots. I thought those wands only came with the XXX. (That period with the ending of the XXX, The arrival of the E and AE, phasing out the LX, confusing time in Old Greenwich). Now what? It does not seem to me that if these people needed replacement wands they would have gotten ones that much older. Could this have been an over supply of XXX wands? I don't know. You would know better than I. Maybe, these neighbors liked the chromed steel wands better or they just hung on to the wands from an older machine. They were weird people. Used to put the Lux behind the couch, but kept that Kirby right out in the open next to the knick-knack shelf. They also owned an Edsel!!! No kidding!!! Rick
 
Embossed Wands etc.

=-> You have mentioned on your website and through other threads on DOV that the thrift T lux was made up of parts from any number of sources. Do you think that this could have been happening with the wands? <-=

Possibly. There are many enigmas in the history of Electrolux. One that comes to mind is the two versions of the XXX/LX rug tool. One was all metal except for a rubber bumper, the other was metal and plastic. I always assumed the metal/plastic one came out later, with the LXI, as it is not depicted in ANY Electrolux literature that I've seen. However, over the years, I have seen or found XXXs, LXs and LXIs with the early all-metal version. AND, I have seen XXXs with the plastic version, a couple of them with the plastic in a matching dark gray color instead of dark turquoise. Now figure THAT one out!!



=-> I would be curious too, what were the Canadian machines being fitted with during this time period? I wonder if they, (Electrolux) were practiceing what Harley-Davidson was doing and keeping minimum parts supplies to keep inventory costs down, or if they were buying from multiple suppliers, etc. <-=

Canadian Lux went to a telescoping wand MUCH sooner than USLux did. They first appeared on "Version 2" (1963-67) of the maroon ZB88. "Version 1" (1957-63) had chrome-plated steel wands, whereas I think the first telescoping wand did not appear until the second 1205 (1970) -- Fr. Bruce or Sandy??

n.b. that Canadian steel wands were a little different than the US versions - the slits at the top were longer and narrower, and the lip around the top was a little narrower.




=-> I'm going to throw an other wrench in the gears here be telling this little story. I had to be seven or eight years old and a neighbor across the alley had two "rich folks" vacuum cleaners. One was a Kirby, (can't tell you what model, only that it had red parts), for the rugs. The other machine was a Lux E, strictly for above the floor, dusting, etc. Being interested in tank cleaners. the E was the one that got most of my attention. And I remember that machine had steel wands with the XXX-type logo embossed at the female end with the slots. I thought those wands only came with the XXX. <-=

Well, the embossed wands only went with the first XXX (or Model 30 as it was called at that time), in 1939. At least, I believe this to be so based on the many XXXs I've found over the years. The only ones I've ever seen with those wands are the couple of early 1937 models that I've found or seen.



=-> It does not seem to me that if these people needed replacement wands they would have gotten ones that much older. Could this have been an over supply of XXX wands? <-=

Possibly. While Electrolux branches were forbidden to sell earlier models, or rebuilt machines, there was no such prohibition, to my knowledge, of selling "NOS" parts. I do remember a neighbor in Virginia who had a Model E with an XXX hose. Either she had had an XXX at one point and the hoses between the two machines got mixed up, or the E hose got damaged or ruined somehow, so she swapped the XXX hose. OR, maybe that's what the Friendly Electrolux Man had in his station wagon for replacement hoses, and sold her one when he came by one day.



Ah, details, details. I just absolutely LIVE for this kind of stuff. That's something I really miss from a certain former member who used to be a pretty good friend of mine until, well........ won't even go there. We'd get on the phone and talk for HOURS about all the minuscule differences and variations in different runs of the same models --- I do believe between the two of us, we have studied Electrolux machines over the years more closely than anyone else. I kinda miss talking about stuff like the cord hook on the early and late E, how the later one had two screws to hold it in place instead of one; or how the early L had a black rubber "Model E" style switch and the next version had a blue turquoise sliding plastic switch.......

"And the beat goes on"
 
Lux ZB88

I remember coming home from school one day to find a maroon ZB88 in the living room, including the optional power head. It had the telescopic wand and the hose had the cord for the power head strapped to it. My parents weren't home at the time so of course I had to turn the vac on and try it out. I was so impressed as that was the first time I had ever seen a power nozzle. I was excited to be having a new vac in the house (my mom's current vac at the time was a Filter queen from the early 50s). When my parents got home I found out that a Lux salesman had been over in the afternoon to demonstrate it. I was annoyed because I missed the demo due to being at school. My parents discussed whether to buy it - my mom wanted it but my dad said no way, he wasn't spending $275 for a vacuum and so the salesman came back, packed up the ZB88 and took it away.

Gary
 

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