vacerator
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Yes,
the clear small plastic plug is the modular later type. Four prongs went out about after 1976.
the clear small plastic plug is the modular later type. Four prongs went out about after 1976.
My GPO Rotary Telephone Collection
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delaneymeegan
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Knot's (one 'T') Landing didn't start until 1979.
Valene didn't lose her babies until 1984.
Abby had her two kids, Brian and Olivia, kidnapped by their Father Jeff. Maybe that's what you're referring to?
http://https//sites.google.com/site...s/story-retrospectives/the-stolen-babies-saga
delaneymeegan
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Phone plugs have been around even longer than I realized. It's not uncommon even today, to see homes built in the 50s and 60s, that still have the old style plug.
It was common in upper scale restaurants to offer phone service at the table, if there was a call for someone. The staff would bring the phone, plug in, and let the customer use the phone, then remove the phone when done.
Also, people with pools and patios would typically have one or two weather proof phone jacks outside, so they could talk while sitting at the pool. The phone of course, would be easily removed during inclimate weather.
The British jack looks like an ethernet plug.
vacerator
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Yes Delaney,
though I saw many episodes, the exact dates are a blur to me, as are some of the 80's contemporary styles, and cars. Little changed that decade, like the boxy ugly Ford Fairmont's used on the show, etc.
I did not like the Ewing's house décor, but I favored the Fairgates.
I even had Karen's station wagon (Colony Park) as a company car for a year. In fact one of my personal dreams then was to own a car dealership, but then I became an ethical person after learning how many of them operated.
Abbey's house was also ugly. Too stark for my taste. But all in all, we've gotta Love middle class America, or at least as it was then.
though I saw many episodes, the exact dates are a blur to me, as are some of the 80's contemporary styles, and cars. Little changed that decade, like the boxy ugly Ford Fairmont's used on the show, etc.
I did not like the Ewing's house décor, but I favored the Fairgates.
I even had Karen's station wagon (Colony Park) as a company car for a year. In fact one of my personal dreams then was to own a car dealership, but then I became an ethical person after learning how many of them operated.
Abbey's house was also ugly. Too stark for my taste. But all in all, we've gotta Love middle class America, or at least as it was then.
delaneymeegan
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lol
You had a Colony Park !? Oh wow. That's how bizarre I was. That was one of my favorite cars when I was 15. Along with the Audi 4000, the Volkswagon Rabbit, and the Lincoln Town Car. LOL.
Did you have an LS or GS?
I loved those carriage lights. In fact my first car, as a 19 year old, was a 4 year old, 1983 Grand Marquis LS Sedan (sibling to the Grand Marquis Colony Park wagon). It was white with a blue leather interior.
fond memories. I wouldn't be caught owning a beast like that today, but still.....
Yes, Abby's house was 70s, San Fernando Valley bland. Back then, that house literally had a stone/gravel roof. Presumably the stones stayed in place with a healthy topping of tar as a base.
I liked Laura and Richards, the way it was then. It's been painted a much lighter color now and that takes away from the way it was- a French Tudor inspired design with wood shingles.
When I lived in Northridge California back in 1986, I was literally a 15 minute bike ride from Crystalaire Plc., and didn't even know it. LOL.
I'm still not sure which Kenmore canister Karen had. I haven't been able to locate the episode where Diana is taking it out of the closet, planning to take it to Abby's, but Karen stops her because, well........ you can guess. lol
http://https//youtu.be/SRCPD1oyQKE
You had a Colony Park !? Oh wow. That's how bizarre I was. That was one of my favorite cars when I was 15. Along with the Audi 4000, the Volkswagon Rabbit, and the Lincoln Town Car. LOL.
Did you have an LS or GS?
I loved those carriage lights. In fact my first car, as a 19 year old, was a 4 year old, 1983 Grand Marquis LS Sedan (sibling to the Grand Marquis Colony Park wagon). It was white with a blue leather interior.
fond memories. I wouldn't be caught owning a beast like that today, but still.....
Yes, Abby's house was 70s, San Fernando Valley bland. Back then, that house literally had a stone/gravel roof. Presumably the stones stayed in place with a healthy topping of tar as a base.
I liked Laura and Richards, the way it was then. It's been painted a much lighter color now and that takes away from the way it was- a French Tudor inspired design with wood shingles.
When I lived in Northridge California back in 1986, I was literally a 15 minute bike ride from Crystalaire Plc., and didn't even know it. LOL.
I'm still not sure which Kenmore canister Karen had. I haven't been able to locate the episode where Diana is taking it out of the closet, planning to take it to Abby's, but Karen stops her because, well........ you can guess. lol
http://https//youtu.be/SRCPD1oyQKE
vacerator
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Delaney,
the Colony park I drove was the larger '78 model. I was relieving a supervisor who had to take a medical leave. That was some wagon! Lincoln smooth, and the same 9 or 10 m.p.g. city. 460 4 barrel.
I thought Karen had that one at the beginning of the show. Maybe not. Sid drove a 60's Mustang also. I can't believe I missed the Kenmore vac! Richard or Laura drove a Mustang, yes? Or was it Abbey? Seems I only remember Richard and Laura's kitchen or dining area, but their house had more style than Abbey's for sure.
Later on in the series, when Kevin Dobson appeared, did he drive a Jeep Cherokee?
Julie Harris went to high school with a friend of mines parents in Grosse pte. Mi.
the Colony park I drove was the larger '78 model. I was relieving a supervisor who had to take a medical leave. That was some wagon! Lincoln smooth, and the same 9 or 10 m.p.g. city. 460 4 barrel.
I thought Karen had that one at the beginning of the show. Maybe not. Sid drove a 60's Mustang also. I can't believe I missed the Kenmore vac! Richard or Laura drove a Mustang, yes? Or was it Abbey? Seems I only remember Richard and Laura's kitchen or dining area, but their house had more style than Abbey's for sure.
Later on in the series, when Kevin Dobson appeared, did he drive a Jeep Cherokee?
Julie Harris went to high school with a friend of mines parents in Grosse pte. Mi.
rugsucker
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--Colony Park--some wagon--Lincoln smooth--
One of the great wagons along with Town & Country,Vista Cruiser and others.Ford built at least one Colony Park wagon with Lincoln trim and different style wood as a show car.
One of the great wagons along with Town & Country,Vista Cruiser and others.Ford built at least one Colony Park wagon with Lincoln trim and different style wood as a show car.
vacerator
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For sure.
Buick Estate wagon, and Olds Custom Cruiser also. There is a cherry '91 Country Squire around the block from me.
Buick Estate wagon, and Olds Custom Cruiser also. There is a cherry '91 Country Squire around the block from me.
delaneymeegan
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'78 Ford wagons were true, petroleum loving beasts. No fuel injection. They were heavy. A relative had a couple of the 70s models- Country Squires. The new, and last, wagon design by Ford, that started in 1979, was some 1000 pounds lighter and about a foot shorter in length. And yet, we'd still consider the likes of the Grand Marquis a "big car", but it got 18 MPG. lol.
Richard had blue mustang. Diana's murderer boyfriend Chip, borrowed a mustang from Karen's dealership. Not sure what Sid's jalopy was.
Yes, Kevin's character drove a Cherokee. Julie recently passed. Still remember here fresh face in East of Eden.
Richard had blue mustang. Diana's murderer boyfriend Chip, borrowed a mustang from Karen's dealership. Not sure what Sid's jalopy was.
Yes, Kevin's character drove a Cherokee. Julie recently passed. Still remember here fresh face in East of Eden.
alexhoovers94
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Another addition to my collection...
Ivory GPO 746, I will need to convert this one with the new BT plug though, just look how unscathed the colour is! No sun damaging at all.
Ivory GPO 746, I will need to convert this one with the new BT plug though, just look how unscathed the colour is! No sun damaging at all.
vacerator
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cool phone, wagon's;
Yeah, that's a nice one Alex.
Delaney, Didn't Sid Fairgate get killed in his blue Mustang?
I used to transfer up to 25 cases of 8 and 10 size cantalopes, and anything else between stores with that Colony Park. Occasionally, heavy shopping traffic in a store, or an inexperienced person doing ordering caused a light supply, so we were allowed to transfer merchandise a.s.a.p.. rather than wait for the next warehouse delivery trucks.
The following year, the company downsized to the even smaller than the former '77 Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruisers. They had the 260 cubic inch V8, and no power.
By 1984 we got the Ford LTD wagons. Not Crown Vic's, but the Fairmont type LTD's with 6 cylinders. They still had more power than the Olds 260 V8.
In 1987, it was Taurus wagons, which hardly held anything due to their jelly bean shape and sharply raked rear lift gate.
By the 90's, no one got wagons. We had a choice of a 4 door Grand Prix, or Cutlass sedan, or a Dodge Dynasty. A&P was tighter with the transportation budget than the original family owners of our chain.
I had to add any bulky shortage add on's for my stores piggy backed onto the afternoon grocery trucks, room and weather permitting it wasn't too hot, or freezing. Dry goods trailers had no refer units.
Yeah, that's a nice one Alex.
Delaney, Didn't Sid Fairgate get killed in his blue Mustang?
I used to transfer up to 25 cases of 8 and 10 size cantalopes, and anything else between stores with that Colony Park. Occasionally, heavy shopping traffic in a store, or an inexperienced person doing ordering caused a light supply, so we were allowed to transfer merchandise a.s.a.p.. rather than wait for the next warehouse delivery trucks.
The following year, the company downsized to the even smaller than the former '77 Oldsmobile Cutlass Cruisers. They had the 260 cubic inch V8, and no power.
By 1984 we got the Ford LTD wagons. Not Crown Vic's, but the Fairmont type LTD's with 6 cylinders. They still had more power than the Olds 260 V8.
In 1987, it was Taurus wagons, which hardly held anything due to their jelly bean shape and sharply raked rear lift gate.
By the 90's, no one got wagons. We had a choice of a 4 door Grand Prix, or Cutlass sedan, or a Dodge Dynasty. A&P was tighter with the transportation budget than the original family owners of our chain.
I had to add any bulky shortage add on's for my stores piggy backed onto the afternoon grocery trucks, room and weather permitting it wasn't too hot, or freezing. Dry goods trailers had no refer units.
midcenturyfan
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I have decided to start collecting telephones and, so far, I have acquired these two. The black example is a 746 model, dating from 1971, and the ivory phone is a 706 model, from 1966.
Fortunately, both phones were in good condition and only needed a thorough cleaning. The previous owner of the ivory one was a heavy smoker, and it took several hours of work to remove the grime.
I have converted both telephones so the they will work with a modern British Telecom socket. The conversion was extremely easy to do, and the parts cost less than £10 per phone. Obviously, those of you in other parts of the world should check with your phone provider before buying an old phone, and do some research into what conversion work might be required.
Robin.
Fortunately, both phones were in good condition and only needed a thorough cleaning. The previous owner of the ivory one was a heavy smoker, and it took several hours of work to remove the grime.
I have converted both telephones so the they will work with a modern British Telecom socket. The conversion was extremely easy to do, and the parts cost less than £10 per phone. Obviously, those of you in other parts of the world should check with your phone provider before buying an old phone, and do some research into what conversion work might be required.
Robin.
delaneymeegan
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A lot of these phones remind me of the Benny Hill show.
The hand sets look like they weigh a lot, compared to newer phones. We inherited a black rotary 1950s phone (U.S.) from a relative. The handset was considerably heavier than a more modern phone.
Video starts at 20:27
http://https//youtu.be/eRO3qs8RfII
alexhoovers94
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They are not heavy but they have a certain feel of quality to them certainly
midcenturyfan
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These telephones definitely have a tactile quality to them.
delaneymeegan
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This is what we inherited. Those sharp corners, and the apparent concrete weights inside, make the handset an excellent murder weapon.
Perhaps, just... perhaps, it was the inspiration for the movie Dial M for Murder. (wicked laugh) But seriously....
http://https//youtu.be/JWP_hrNHSN4
delaneymeegan
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Some Favorite rotary dial phones
have to be certain Western Electric, modularized, and in certain colours.
have to be certain Western Electric, modularized, and in certain colours.
alexhoovers94
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Hmmm
Ahh, but those are yank phones, lol
Ahh, but those are yank phones, lol
delaneymeegan
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Yes they are !
And you would love them, cutey.
They aren't as sophisticated as a certain someones <span style="font-size: 12pt;">"</span>[COLOR=#6a6a6a; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18.2px]White [/COLOR][COLOR=#545454; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18.2px]slim line [/COLOR][COLOR=#6a6a6a; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18.2px]telephone[/COLOR][COLOR=#545454; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18.2px] with last number redial at one-touch facility"[/COLOR]<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> , but rotary dial phones are more interesting, whether in the UK, or US. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Service changes- Back in 'the day', one could make phone calls and there was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">no caller ID</span>. A situation that would, no doubt, be of interest to you. lol</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'm wondering if US phones were compatible with BTs network, and if UK phones would have worked on US Bell Networks.</span>
And you would love them, cutey.
They aren't as sophisticated as a certain someones <span style="font-size: 12pt;">"</span>[COLOR=#6a6a6a; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18.2px]White [/COLOR][COLOR=#545454; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18.2px]slim line [/COLOR][COLOR=#6a6a6a; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18.2px]telephone[/COLOR][COLOR=#545454; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-weight: normal; line-height: 18.2px] with last number redial at one-touch facility"[/COLOR]<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> , but rotary dial phones are more interesting, whether in the UK, or US. </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Service changes- Back in 'the day', one could make phone calls and there was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">no caller ID</span>. A situation that would, no doubt, be of interest to you. lol</span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'm wondering if US phones were compatible with BTs network, and if UK phones would have worked on US Bell Networks.</span>
alexhoovers94
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They do, just have to change the plug from the BT type plug to the modular type plug and vice versa.
There is an American collector that has a GPO 746 and it works just fin in the US, he has an adapter to change the plug into modular...What is interesting, is that when it rings it doesn't go ring ring like the 700s normally do, it did the US style single long ring.
There is an American collector that has a GPO 746 and it works just fin in the US, he has an adapter to change the plug into modular...What is interesting, is that when it rings it doesn't go ring ring like the 700s normally do, it did the US style single long ring.
mcrabbitman
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The ring type is controlled by the Telco - their systems send out what is known as 'ring voltage' across the line to jingle the telephone. BT sends out 2 relatively short bursts at a time, resulting in the ring ring you are familiar with, whereas the US Telcos send out one longer burst at a time.
delaneymeegan
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I like the U.K. ring tone.
....and for that matter, the traditional two-tone siren on the patrol units. So much more dignified compared to the obnoxious "American" siren.
http://https//youtu.be/tBtFTo322-0
vacerator
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always wondered
why the BT system had the double ring tone.
I've heard the British siren around here within the last decade, and I've heard our long wailing American type sirens on British detective shows on Netflix.
why the BT system had the double ring tone.
I've heard the British siren around here within the last decade, and I've heard our long wailing American type sirens on British detective shows on Netflix.
alexhoovers94
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The double ring tone was always used and still is, in the UK...I like the American single tone too, but it just seems like it doesn't ring for as long, lol.
delaneymeegan
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Oh Alex, admit it. You want so badly to come to the U.S. We know it. lol
But, I don't know if you could get through border patrol. Something tells me you may have... restrictions......
I've this suspicion maybe you were a child arsonist, or you pushed your mother down a stairs when you were 8 for the fun of it. I don't know what it is. lol.
alexhoovers94
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What? What on earth are you talking about?!
Trimlines and Princesses
I wanted to share a few pics of my favorite phone. I really like the rotary Trimlines and Princess phones. The lighted handsets are so interesting.
Several of these require an external power transformer. After about 1974 the phones no longer needed them.
I wanted to share a few pics of my favorite phone. I really like the rotary Trimlines and Princess phones. The lighted handsets are so interesting.
Several of these require an external power transformer. After about 1974 the phones no longer needed them.
Off the cradles:
The 75th Anniversary Imperial 202, (gold plated), and the classic 302:
Some Princess models and an Ericophon:
