My DC41 MK2. I must be mad!

[turbo500]

"198 AW, but its impressive how that vacuum was designed to make it work better than other machines with higher airwatts!"

...you mean like Hoover did for 80-odd years with the combination of the "beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans" brushroll and the dirty fan motor, giving superior carpet cleaning?

Yeh, real original there Dyson, bravo! The direct drive brushroll is also nothing new. The Panasonic Icon launched in 1998 was the first to feature that design, 15 years before Dyson.

Once again, nothing original from Mr. D at all.

 

[kirbyduh]

Nice Vacuum

I really like that Dyson. I have a DC44 on its way in the mail for my quick pickups as I have the Dyson bug.

I wonder why the US DC65 doesn't have that slider? That is a really neat feature.

I may look at getting my church to upgrade to a DC65 as our DC25 has given us years of faithful service. (In a church. Teeheehee) People can say what they will about Dyson, but that DC25 had kept our Church's White, plush carpet looking very good for several years. It really pulls up a ton of dirt. The ball is awesome for maneuvering around the pews.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Supersweeper,

It isn't just this thread. On nearly every other thread you have participated in, you either constantly bash dyson or rave and rant about Kirbys. I, and very few other people don't go onto other similar threads such as this and say "the Kirby is rubbish, my sebo is better", or "My miele will outclean such and such". Maybe that might be the case. But you only seem content on either raving or bashing one vacuum cleaner or another. Other people on this thread have said things like they like it, looks like a nice vacuum, or I wish they did this or that, etc. That is fine, or if you don't like it, so what? That is a discussion! But the constant, repetitive same old is just irritating.

Your sarcasm when it comes to "inferior dyson" is to much its tacky. Look at what you have put. It is you particularly I am having a problem with, and others are as well. Just take it down a notch. I have said this a lot foo times now, have your opinion, express your opinion, but be mature and decent about it. Constantly bashing or raving one particular brand or another is repetitive and not interesting. We are supposed to be vacuum enthusiasts. Just like car enthusiasts, you can have brand loyalty but respecting and acknowledging that SOMETIMES, other manufactures make nice products as well is what its all about. Like I said, I have sebos, numatics, Bosch, Vax and Bissells and they are brilliant products.

I have criticised dyson in the past and will continue to do so. Not everything they make is wonderful, but a lot of their stuff is. That is just my opinion. Same as sebo, arguably the felix is their best model, however I don't think the X1.1 is as good as it cane be due to the automatic height adjustment.

Basically, be a bit more diverse !

 

[dys0nb0y]

To say that I know everyone thinks that Dyson don't put anyone Rubber plastic to protect hard floors if you have a look at the ball you can notice is a little bit squidgy on the lines is actually carnival and what about material on the lines and there is some on the whale at the bottom

 

[super-sweeper]

I see, I'll dial down the Kirby setting a bit. Glad we can have a conversation without yelling for once! 

 

[ultimatevacman]

<a name="start_26625.301919"></a>"Supersweeper, it isn't just this thread. On nearly every other thread you have participated in, you either constantly bash dyson or rave and rant about Kirbys. I, and very few other people don't go onto other similar threads such as this and say "the Kirby is rubbish, my sebo is better", or "My miele will outclean such and such". Maybe that might be the case. But you only seem content on either raving or bashing one vacuum cleaner or another. Other people on this thread have said things like they like it, looks like a nice vacuum, or I wish they did this or that, etc. That is fine, or if you don't like it, so what? That is a discussion! But the constant, repetitive same old is just irritating."



 


I completely agree with this. It does get annoying and why not post about Kirbys in threads about Kirbys?


 


Also, earlier on someone mentioned that a product would not be successful if it wasn't for clever marketing and advertising, while I do think advertising certainly boosts Dyson's sales, a product does not need to be heavly advertised to be sucsessful! Just look at Numatic, they don't advertise and never have done, yet Henry and his family are still the best selling vacuum cleaners in the UK!


 


Joe

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I used my dyson today to do a right ol' clean through top to bottom. I find I can do it much quicker with the dyson than any other vacuum I have used, including my bosch athelt. The bosch, I can do a room in 2 or 3 minutes properly , but it is out of puff after two carpeted rooms, and I wish I was joking.

The fact everything is so at hand on the dyson, to grab the hose and snap on the combination tools, it is just so easy. I love it, and each time I use it, I find it very difficult to relate to the many drawbacks other people claim these dysons have.

That is true. A good product will sell itself, however that doesn't mean that a product that is advertised is only done so because they don't sell. Take the iphones. They are advertised more than any other phone yet they are sold more than any other phone. In the first week, they sold 15 million units, with no advertising. In fact the first advert I saw for the iPhone 6 was today, about 2 hours ago ahah!

Sometimes advertising is just making would be customer and current customers aware of new models.

 

[ultimatevacman]

Very true. It's funny you say that, as I just saw an advert for the new iPhone 6 too!!

 

[super-sweeper]

LOL forget the iPhone 6, My kitchen phone is from 1984 and i couldn't be happier! 

 


I just had an idea about merging the best of both worlds, imagine KIRBY but with the DYSON ball! that and the model 557 are planned as soon as i find some, um, "test subjects" willing to become the cutting edge of home vacuuming! 

 


Yes, I have mentioned Kirby in other threads, and hope i haven't completely taken over a thread in the name of Kirby. in the event that i have, I apologize. don't forget that we have members that take over threads in Dyson's name, too, and that off-topic conversations can add variety and spice to a thread (I.E-The DC982 is coming out, let's compare it too other vacuums, and give opinions and facts and what not), and not (Hey look the DC928 is coming out, let's launch Kirby War XXVIV!). 

 

[daknx1994]

It is very true that not all products need advertising, however one must consider that the iPhone like Dyson, already have a loyal customer following. Plus with the internet one can do some quick research to see if and when a new product will be coming out. People were anticipating the release of the new iPhone, and the same can be said about video game systems, and video games their selves. Technology has always been the biggest seller and the top category of product to have such high anticipation and sells when a new model or device is released.

 

[super-sweeper]

you're right, the following! if the crowd so much as hears about a new model, it's off to Best-Buy! shame, instead of keeping something going and getting your money's worth out of it, people would rather flock out in droves to drop cash on the latest and greatest. You're right about video game systems, especially the Console War last year! still not upgrading, the Xbox One seems to focus more on TV and Webcams then gaming, my faithful 360 Elite keeps soldiering on! 

 

[cb123]

Alex, you would have to admit that KIRBY WORLD WAR XXVII would have been truly most GLORIOUS!!!

 The smell of plastic burning would have been invigorating.

.....

 

 

[super-sweeper]

Calem, even Kirby has some plastic on it! I doubt a chrome plated bumper would protect your furniture! 

 

[cb123]

FURNITURE ....FURNITURE....HOW DARE YOU TO BRING UP SUCH TRIFLES!!! MAY A THOUSAND CURSES FALL UPON....OH, FORGET ABOUT IT - WHO REALLY CARES ANYWAY.

  


 


 


 

 

[super-sweeper]

Um, ok well happy 1,111th post, Calem! That's one way to use it! 

 

[cb123]

Sure...sure...Thanks a bazillion, Alex!

 Oh Yeah, HAPPY 3249 posts, Alex! Now, that's a whole lot of jibber jabber!

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I am a great believer in getting my money worth out of anything I buy, and I certainly don't follow the trend when it comes to technology, especially the iPhones. I used to by only apple products but the constant shoving in your face of "this on is better, in every way, we have redefined gravity" and the tacky adverts is poor business tactics when someone paid over £500 for your "latest" model last year. In fact, it was reported that the year on year iOS updated actually slow down the older model iphones so the customer thinks they are "wearing out" and buy another one. Not to mention the fact you can not open the phone up to replace a battery because they have patented screws only authorised dealers have. It is complete BS.

As regards the games console, I think I got a good run with my PS3 I got at the tale end of 2007, which I only upgraded to an xbox one at the end of last year. They are brilliant consoles I must say.

Anyways back to vacuums, yes. A Kirby/Dyson hybrid? One can only dream on. A interesting and as great that product would be, I would imagine that would never happen :3

 

[parwaz786]

You play PS3? OMG YAY

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I used to. When I got my PS3 in 2007 I was 21 and had more time and was more interested in it, now I work for myself and lead a more busy life style ahah! I mean I got an XBOX one in October last year and the last time I played in was May. Good spend of £500 I must say :3

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

@kirbyduh

Oh no, don't get a Dyson according to some of these guys. They have no "original ideas", even though Panasonic and Dyson have had a tie up for about 15 years with Panasonic supplying the right to dyson for the direct drive motor, and supplying them with the main suction motors. This is really important stuff apparently.

 

[parwaz786]

That's great to hear I am into gaming myself, I wanna get the PS4, but not yet as there's not much games for it

 

[sptyks]

Here's a few interesting facts about motors, not braggin

Did you know that Kirby makes it's own suction motors?


 


You will never find a Panasonic or a Lamb motor inside a Kirby.


 


Kirby motors are famous for producing the most power per watt than any other vacuum motor due to the special type of feild and armature windings used.

 

[super-sweeper]

Lamb (Or at least older generations) Motors are nearly indestructible. they're very easy to take apart and rebuild in the event a fault occurs. They're seen in Kenmore Canisters, the die-hard of Shag-Conquerors! 

 


Oli, that's horrible of Apple to do that to their customer, but also expected when they rule all of Cellphone Land. what a spit in the face to Apple fans, "If you don't want our new phone, maybe we'll convince you by making your older model slower!", that's terrible business. Who knows, Maybe 20 years from now, Dyson vacuums can access the internet, and give you some kind of "Look how much dust you vacuumed and how many calories you burned!" thing....but then they would make the older model cleaners fail by remote control, and play ads while vacuuming! You know, there WAS a vacuum that played ads while you were vacuuming? Well, in a way, first one to guess the vacuum right by 7:30 PM EST gets Kirby Points! 

 


Oh believe me, The Kirby/Dyson hybrid is possible. Did you ever hear about KSSRC? That's Kenmore Southern-States Restoration Center. I run the facility, and already have plans for the Model 557, it can do something no Kirby has ever done before, but I won't say what! and that's NOT including the Handi-Gardener! 

 


It's only a matter of time before the KirbSon comes out (say, that doesn't sound like too bad of a model name, any suggestions?), really it's only until i find a parts machine willing to step into the 21st Century! It's not as hard as you think to give the Kirby "Ball" Technology, Anything is possible at KSSRC! 

 


 

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Not all companies which have the monopoly in a certain industry are as vile as Apple. Forget the stupid, over priced, over marketed, out of date technology Apple sells, the company itself is less than responsible for the well being of their employees. Their products are largely made by foxconn, a Taiwanese manufacturing company based in China, meaning apple outsource all of their manufacturing to third parties. This is not as commonplace as one would think, especially in the phone industry. In fact I think the only other people who get their phones outsourced is Sony, also to foxconn, but HTC make most of their phone in house in Taiwan, Nokia make theirs in China, in house, same with Samsung, and LG make their higher end phones, again in house, in Korea. This ensure quality control and correct specifications of the build of their products.

Foxconn have been in the limelight a lot in recent years due to the suicide at their facilities, by the workers who cant bare to work/live their any longer. They feel they have to however, to provide for themselves and their families. In all honesty, lack of regulation in China especially when it comes to foreign investment in manufacturing is deliberately thin on the ground, to drive in more investment. This means however that the companies who run the factories can literally get away with blue-murder, enforcing ridiculous terms and conditions and work loads never seen before in the western world. But that is what Chinas economy is based around, so as long as it works for them, who cares right ? The UN don't intervene at all.

Unlike Microsoft and a lot of other US multinationals, Apple has no recorded event of ever giving money to charity. Not that it is strictly necessary, but it holds a company in higher value, especially towards the public.

For the record, Dyson make their vacuums in house in their own facilities in conjunction with a singapour based industrial group. Dyson make their digital motors in house as well, only importing the suction motors from Panasonic for their vacuums. I also know Miele make everything in house, from the motors to the wheel bearings, as do numatic. Sebo I believe make nearly everything themselves, but use Bosch motors now I believe, someone correct me if I am wrong. Of course Kirby make everything themselves as well.

 

[sebo_fan]

China has been like that for years though, Oli - not just with multinational Western brands. Apple aren't alone here.

As for Dyson, I don't really take much interest in what their policies are, or if they build their own motors, or even if they get the local plastic factory next door to supply a local produced product to slap on their machines.

The point for me is, Dyson need to move back to the UK and produce their vacuums there. James Dyson can't change his naturalisation and he shouldn't have to produce in China given the high cost of the products. Its been a bone of contention for years to the point that Dyson have announced their intention to return to the UK, but it hasn't really happened yet. Oh yes the headquarters are based in the UK, but that isn't enough.

Or do we Brits "turn a blind eye" ?

 

[elvina]

So Hard To Move

Hi

I have recently got a new DC41 Mk2. My previous DC41 moved really easily but this new one is quite hard to push but most importantly the swivel of the ball is really tight and if I turn sharply the head lifts off the floor. Dyson have supplied a new head but this is just the same. I rang them again and they are sending an engineer in a couple of weeks but I just wanted to see if anyone else had noticed this with the DC41 Mk2 please?

Thanks

 

[parwaz786]

I got my Dyyson DC41 Mk2 brand new last week and have found no issues. I think you may need to use it for a few days for it to "break in". My ball is loose already and is easy to manoueuvre but it's impossible to turn on hard floors with the MAX setting on

 

[elvina]

Thanks for the reply Parwaz786. Having read your reply and looked at the video on the Dyson website I am sure that there must be something wrong with the ball on my DC41 Mk2 because it doesnt move smoothly at all and is really hard to move around. I have had it nearly a month and its not getting any easier. As for the slider on the front, I cant use that, it makes the vacuum impossible to move. Thanks again.