My GPO Rotary Telephone Collection

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alexhoovers94

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Here is something that I have recently started collecting alongside vacuum cleaners, 1960s-1980s GPO Telephones, I have 4 so far, but the collection will no doubt grow, they are all post office rented of course! On the far left was my first old telephone that started my collecting, my 1973 Red model 746, next to that is my 1966 two tone green model 706, next to that my 1984 cream model 746 and finally the lovely 1963 Concord Blue model 706.

Love them to bits and of course they all have dual gong ringers! 😀

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Awesome! I remember I used to have one of those in my bedroom (at my insistence) in the early 90s. If I remember, I wanted to emulate the TV shows I saw where people used and carried those phones around, even though the beginning of the wireless phone craze had already begun. I can especially recall a scene in Laverne & Shirley where Shirley is using their black rotary phone like these you've pictured, and Laverne is making out with some beau. Shirley is trying to cover for Laverne, saying she's sick in bed when she was really making out with some guy a couple of feet away. See what awesome memories your phones brought back to me?! :-)
 
Haha, cool.
I really do miss the use of house phones, I remember a time when the Phone would ring and my mum would shout "Allllllex! Phone!" or it would ring and you would be like "I'll get it!" What was good with land lines and still is, is that someone can call you and if you know they are calling, you can just ignore the phone and they won't know if you are really home or not to hear the call.

I do just love the sound of a rotary dial though. "crrrrr, duuuuuuuuur" lol, not to mention that classing bell..."BRING BRING, BRING BRING, BRING BRING" lol.
 
My dad has an old green Western Electric rotary dial wall phone wired up in the garage. He picked it up for 50 cents at a yard sale.
 
I have considered collecting telephones. The only trouble is, as with anything collectable, there are vast numbers of different models, and a lot of potential pitfalls for the novice enthusiast. One must be careful to ensure that a telephone is what it appears to be, and is not a reproduction, or a less desirable model. There are also poorly restored phones being sold by unscrupulous dealers.

Robin.
 
Cool Alex!

Nice phones. So how are ya? Glad you're back.
I don't collect them, but I have one oldie but goodie wall mount by Western Electric Bell in my garage.
It is gold, or a yellow, circa 1978 and has a chalk board or reversible cork board for messages. The hand set hangs on the left, and the right side has an opening for a large phone directory book. Also a dual bell ringer.
I'll clean it up and post a photo when I get around to it.
I'm doctoring currently, so it will be a while.
 
Midcenturyfan - I did do a fair but of research into these phones before I bought any, I see that there are many rebuilds and replicas of the original GPO telephones but all the ones I have are original as they were and are all authetic, it is so easy to be fooled by a reproduction with these things as they look so similar.

Vacenator - Thanks, glad to be back too! From what I have come to learn, I see the popular suplier for house phones in the US was Western Electric 🙂 Do I assume you had different service providers then or was the service provider Western Electric? Or was that just the company that made the phone?

Over here these model phones and other varients including the trim phones, wall phone and the push buttom varients of these 700 series phones that I have pictured, were made by various companies, but were suplied by GPO (General Post Office) which is now BT (British Telecom) all phones back then were rented from the post office or the GPO as the post office did all the telecomunications at that time, not only do we have BT now, which is the main one, but there is Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and a few others, BT is one of the few Telecomunications that still accepts pulse dialing! 😃
 
AlexHoovers94

In the U.S. prior to 1984 when the govt. broke it up there was one monopoly company providing telco services, the AT&T Bell System. There were a few smaller companies but they weren't really competitive.

The corporate hierarchy looked like this,

AT&T corp. was the holding company for most local telephone companies like Michigan Bell for example. AT&T was also the holding company for "AT&T Long Lines" the long distance service as well as owning Western Electric. Its research department was called Bell Labs.

After being broke up AT&T Corp went into the business of selling telephones and tried to market a computer. In 2004 SBC (Southwestern Bell) a company formerly owned by AT&T Corp bought AT&T. SBC then renamed itself AT&T Inc. Note Corp vs Inc.

If you want to learn more I suggest you look on YouTube for "AT&T Tech Channel" they have many short films produced from the '20s to the '80s by AT&T on everything from the conversion to dial from switchboard service to how in the late '40s Bell Labs invented the transistor. Bell even had plans to be almost all fiber optic by 1995, who said monopolies aren't innovative.

Here is a short film from the 1970s explaining "What is the Bell System".

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBPTM_irIco
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Wow that looks interesting, will have to read into that, thanks for the info.

I am not sure why telephones were rented back then, I could be wrong, but over here, I don't think they were available to buy until either the mid to late 80s, I think it was when BT took over GPO and they changed the telephone connection from a hardwired juction/connector box, to the modern BT phone jack.
 
Yes, our phones were rented,

but we could keep them when we moved if we wanted to if they were a desk type, or a phone co. tech. would come and remove your wall mounted phone and re install it at your new address. They almost never broke.
Western Electric was the equipment manufacturer, also an AT&T division.
The phone I mentioned above is called the "noteworthy" model. Mine is touchtone dial. They also came rotary dial first.
Central zone switching offices were also ran by AT&T.
Each state had it's own Bell Telephone division.
Outlying rural areas had General Telephone service and GTE telephones. The phone styles were different from AT&T phones.
Before 1983, long distance charges ran about 6 cents per minute. Also, circle calling was offered with different zones according to where people you called most often lived.
Certain prefix (first 3 numbers) zones could call a larger local area no extra charge, but a "zone call" though not long distance, may have cost as much as long distance.
After the AT&T break up, you kept your local line service, according to your state but had to choose from other long distance carriers such as MCI, Ameritech, etc.
The new divisions were Ameritech for the Mid west and Great lakes, Bell South, Souhtwestern Bell, etc. You still got your phones from your local company, but eventually, phones were sold at retail stores. Most being imported from Japan, etc.
I never had a lower phone bill following the break up.
Personally, I think it was all a rigged money grab scheme to reboot the former AT&T shares of stock at lower IPO's and have then all go up from there.
Those with a lot of AT&T shares were earning big dividends under the MA Bell monopoly.
Remember, follow the money. Many older AT&T employees were retiring about that time also. My uncle, a WW2 gunner in Germany worked there from 1945 to 1984. He gave me the low down.
He knew how all the trunk lines worked and ran. He and his team spliced in the phone systems for skyscrapers from under ground, and in the buildings.
 
Just a point of clarification: There wasn't an individual 'baby bell' for each state. On the East Coast, Bellsouth covered several Southeastern states, Bell Atlantic covered the mid-Atlantic region, and NYNEX covered New York and the New England states.

Back when AT&T was essentially THE phone company in the U.S., they were a government sanctioned monopoly and congress even went so far at to make it a crime to connect any non-AT&T hardware to AT&T's network. People actually went to jail for selling third-party answering machines and such. That all changed in the early '80s when AT&T wanted to get into the burgeoning computer industry and the price for doing so was divestiture.

It's kind of amusing and/or maddening that most of the 'baby bells' continued to charge an extra couple of dollars a month for touch tone dialing service well into the 1990s, even though touch tone had become so ubiquitous that it cost the phone companies more to offer rotary 'pulse' dialing to customers who opted out of touch tone. A lot of the cheap, third-party phones in the '80s and '90s actually had a switch on them marked with a 'T' one side for touch tone dialing and a 'P' for pulse dialing, which used the same keypad but generated a series of clicks with each press of a button to mimic the rapid opening and closing of a rotary dial circuit.

Times have really changed. It's hard to believe that I've been without a landline for more than 12 years now. Although I have AT&T U-Verse for my TV and Internet, the phone jacks in my house aren't even physically connected to the outside world anymore. After Super Storm Sandy, Verizon (another former 'baby bell') opted not to restore wire line service to some outlying coastal regions damaged by the storm. Instead, they issued customers boxes to plug into a phone jack that connected the household phones to Verizon's mobile phone network.
 
Well things are still

getting messed up at times.
An ATT/SBC cherry picker was working on the next street behind my neighbors house, and ever since, they have had Wide Open West out 5 times because their cable and internet keeps going out. Even after a new modem the third time.
I had an answering machine back in the early 80's before the AT&T split, and I did get a few calls telling me I had unauthorized equipment on the line. I simply asked them why I was able to purchase a device at a store to record my phone messages. They had no answer, and hung up.
Make certain your wyfi wireless is secure, and be leary of strange cars sitting near your residence with someone inside. They may be trying to hack into it.
 
I watched them

and I'm partial to the orange phone, but all of your pics are easy on the eyes Alex.
Oops, sorry, maybe that's the medication talking.
I'm really a gentleman.
I thought I gave myself a hernia last week by overdoing it with the outdoor spring work, but my doc said that's not it.
I have an ultrasound Monday, so he gave me something for pain to tide me over.
Also said to take it easy. All I've done is laundry, some light cooking and dishes.
I hate being limited to the house, not being able to at least do cardio at the gym.
 

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