Miele C3

[blackheart]

Well.

That person was me. I don't expect others to take it as factual but those are the numbers I've personally measured on my machines. Even if the method is flawed it still provides a comparison of some sort.

 

[markhenry]

I asked a few places about Central vacuums... airflow etc is hindered by the length of the hose. Considering central air vacuums have huge amounts of pipe/hose before it gets to you... It has been stated they are the weakest in terms of actual cleaning performance. Might be convenient and the motor is outside... but thats about it.

Black - I saw similar stuff to what you posted on youtube tests myself, not by sales people or manufacturers, but simply people with interest in vacuums that happen to own a few different vacuums and can demonstrate.

vcuumdevil - Ferrar Lamborghini I would understand, but in this case, when one can be bought for $1200 (miele electro model) or a $4000 rainbow which is 'weaker'... I fail to see the comparison. Like this you are paying ferrari prices for a regular sedan.

But the filtering system is awesome... Miele don't let anything in the air either... so I fail to see the benefit to that either. To me it feels like they are simply banking on "But it washes the air" - Dude you can't wash air. You can take dust out of it, but wash the dust? Dust is dust...

What they need to do, to justify such an exorbitant price on the rainbow is actually make it have over 120 CFM at the Nossle. Then at least if you want a Kirby or Rainbow... both cost the same and perform much of a muchness. Like this you are paying Kirby prices (Ferrari Prices) for a machine that is mediocre and no 'stronger' than machines at 500 bucks (regular sedans). So wheres the logic to that? There is none, may as well get a Kirby then for that price, at least you get what you pay for with those.

I love the concept of Rainbow... but come on... release a model with real airflow so that there is some logic to buying the machine and I would get it.

Anyway, regarding the C3 - I have low carpet. It isn't the thick fluffy stuff... and 2 cats.

People at Miele recommended I get the Cat and Dog C3, Red canister, $500, comes with turbo brush and mini turbo brush, Settings are on board the canister. 2000w motor.

I also liked the Blue one, which had the +/- on the handles (settings done via the handle, but also has buttons on board to adjust that way too if you prefer), it had rubber wheels instead of plastic, so that you don't damage wooden floors which the red one didn't, and that one has a 1200w motor instead of 2000w.

Then you got the electro models, which are $1200 (from $500-650 vs $1200 now), has everything the other ones have + electric brush which alone is $450 and usable on the model, not usable on the other models. However it also has the 2000w motor not the 1200w motor...

Do I even need the electric brush?

 

[blackheart]

i'm very confused!

Mark your location says USA but you keep reffering to Miele models i'm unfamiliar with. The Cat and dog in the US is white, has the electric SEB-228 nozzle, body speed controls, and a handheld turbine brush and sells for 949. I'm also unfamiliar with a blue model that has speed controls on the handle. As far as i know in the US the only two that have them are the bronze-ish C3 brilliant and the C3 homecare +. the suction motors also top out at 1200w there are no 2000w mieles here....

Also where are you getting the figure for 4000 for a rainbow? I've heard they go from about 1600-2400 new, of course your haggling ability effects it.

I apologize if i'm prying i'm just very confused and it makes it harder to discuss machines when we're talking about different countries. Miele's US lineup is pretty different as the majority of consumers desire a power nozzle here.

 

[vacuumdevil]

@blackheart he's definitely in Australia or somewhere in that part of the world from the models. I feel like we're being trolled by him.

 

[royalfan]

@markhenry just buy a top-of-the-line Miele ! You're saving money over the rainbow.
Or by bottom-line Miele and a royal

 

[markhenry]

Doing some more digging... just to update post if anyone that isn't a forum member happens to be reading...

Regarding the power output and efficiency of the machine...

The 2000w motor vs 1200w motor....

Essentially, the 1200w motors are designed to work with the power output of peoples homes that can't run the amps to power the 2000w motor.

The 1200w motor is more efficient in running costs. 1200w of power costs less than 2000w to run.

Given this, Miele designed the airtech head which was responsible for the increase in airflow. This airtech head gave the 1200w machine the ability to clean as good as the 2000w machine while running cheaper.

Having said that though, a 2000w machine can be used on a lower setting. So you can run the 2000w machine at 1200w, just turn the power of the suction/motor down.

So bottom line is... a 2000w machine (turned on max) will have more suction than a 1200w machine on max and if you dont need all that power just turn it down. The fact it has some in reserve means you wont be using the machine on max, which will result in less strain on the motor which in turn should make your Miele last longer as well.