Here is an inflation calculator you could use to find out how much the vacuums cost.
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
Help! Shopping for New Vacuum and Overwhelmed
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sebo_fan
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Longer n lighter
A good point . One aspect i like about my sebo d is that the hose is slightly longer than others AND the all metal tubes are also lighter. Thus in use thered very little need to pulling or lifting the vacuum around.
Sebo also equip their K1& 3 with lighter tubes and long hoses to prevent owners from needlessly pulling the vac close to them.
A good point . One aspect i like about my sebo d is that the hose is slightly longer than others AND the all metal tubes are also lighter. Thus in use thered very little need to pulling or lifting the vacuum around.
Sebo also equip their K1& 3 with lighter tubes and long hoses to prevent owners from needlessly pulling the vac close to them.
sebo fan
Loving that longer hose and cord. It makes a world of difference as you can clean quicker. So far it's taken everything I can throw at it and I can now say things look and smell much cleaner. It's gotten most of that Oreck dry cleaning powder up that I was using for years. I don't think that stuff ever come up fully. I have pets who like to stain the carpet and had used that stuff for a long time. Now I use Bissells product. Maybe I'll start a thread about the best way to clean up dog pee from rugs and carpets. LOL....
Loving that longer hose and cord. It makes a world of difference as you can clean quicker. So far it's taken everything I can throw at it and I can now say things look and smell much cleaner. It's gotten most of that Oreck dry cleaning powder up that I was using for years. I don't think that stuff ever come up fully. I have pets who like to stain the carpet and had used that stuff for a long time. Now I use Bissells product. Maybe I'll start a thread about the best way to clean up dog pee from rugs and carpets. LOL....
durango159
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Fantom Lightning
$200-$300 on a Sears Kenmore puts a buyer in their low to mid range. The Orange model at original retail of $229 or the White at original retail of $300.
Orange model in a way is the better of the two because it has a reliable hose that Panasonic/ Kenmore canisters have been using for many years. This hose is a universal fit to fit attachment from many other vacs on market. Quick disconnect wands but these wands are prone to burning wires at power nozzle connection after a few years. Air turbine powered hand tool. The problems with the Orange machine are extremely flimsy plastic for attachment door and main suction unit. Bag compartment is small and bag needs to be folded in half to fit. A new bag style was not produced to fit this machine, instead you still use Kenmore C 50557 bags but fold in half. Kenmore HEPA Q could be used but you'd really be scrunging to get to fit inside.
White model is plagued by the Kenmore series new hose style. The handle is very comfortable. However this hose, also found on Blueberry and Red Progressives are not a universal fit and only fit the attachments which come standard with original purchase. The hose handle although comfortable for user is very bulky. Dusting brush and upholstery nozzle are the shape of the suction opening. They are oblong shaped and don't fit in areas well. The upholstery nozzle is a series of fins that looks like Miniblinds. Crevice tool attaches to hose handle and is difficult to remove and reattach.
The Kenmore TOL series would be the blue Intuition canister. It's very quiet, has dirt sensor, variable speed control, on/off for entire machine and power nozzle on hose handle. In general the suction unit is very nice with large bag capacity. This vacuums problem is the power nozzle. It's a hybrid head with removable bare floor brush that completes the power nozzles. This makes for a bulkier, harder to maneuver power head that in my experience is much more cumbersome to maneuver than a normal canister power head. Due to its bulky connection to power head, once wand lowers to about 9" off the floor, the front of the power nozzle starts lifting off the rug. For a canister power nozzle this is bad as it really defeats purpose of a canister vacuum. The bare floor brush is very skimpy on bristles and connection to power nozzle is very delicate and numerous consumers including my client who has purchased 3 of these units for her 11,000 sq. foot home and separate meeting space over the years has had 2 units break and power head will not reattach to wands. New parts to fix connection cost about $100 through Sears.
Kirbylux77 can tell you more about this than I can, but in recent years, sadly Panasonic has been continuously switching motors in their units and using very cheap ones. Panasonic makes all of the Kenmore canisters so both companies products have suction units that are experiencing motor death at about 4- 6 years old.
It is my opinion that the Royal is a much better quality machine and will clean better than these Kenmores. The power nozzle on the Hoover has longer bristles over the CenTec CT20DXQD series heads found on the Kenmores and grooms carpets better while grabbing pet hair and other dirt faster. The Royal power nozzle also utilizes Hoovers patented Windtunnel design. The hose handle on the Royal is extremely comfortable with long very flexible, durable material and power nozzle is very powerful.
For those have not yet taken a closer look at this in a vacuum shop, I would advise doing so. First look at a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary, then look at this. I think you'll find its not nearly as bad as you think. Is it perfect--- NO!! Is it anywhere near the quality of the previous Royal Power Tank that we all miss--- NO! But it's a closer image to that of Miele, Sebo, Riccar, Lindhaus, Kenmore and all of those other machines that are also nearly all PLASTIC!! The suction unit on the Royal has a solid construction feel.
If you look at a Hoover Windtunnel bagged canister from around 2007 like the S3639 and those PowerMax series ones, you would be more impressed with the newer body style. It is a sealed system with HEPA filtration which its predecessor was nowhere near sealed and filtration was terrible!! As much as I love its predecessor the filtration was terrible and body construction was flimsy. Not so with the new series!!
$200-$300 on a Sears Kenmore puts a buyer in their low to mid range. The Orange model at original retail of $229 or the White at original retail of $300.
Orange model in a way is the better of the two because it has a reliable hose that Panasonic/ Kenmore canisters have been using for many years. This hose is a universal fit to fit attachment from many other vacs on market. Quick disconnect wands but these wands are prone to burning wires at power nozzle connection after a few years. Air turbine powered hand tool. The problems with the Orange machine are extremely flimsy plastic for attachment door and main suction unit. Bag compartment is small and bag needs to be folded in half to fit. A new bag style was not produced to fit this machine, instead you still use Kenmore C 50557 bags but fold in half. Kenmore HEPA Q could be used but you'd really be scrunging to get to fit inside.
White model is plagued by the Kenmore series new hose style. The handle is very comfortable. However this hose, also found on Blueberry and Red Progressives are not a universal fit and only fit the attachments which come standard with original purchase. The hose handle although comfortable for user is very bulky. Dusting brush and upholstery nozzle are the shape of the suction opening. They are oblong shaped and don't fit in areas well. The upholstery nozzle is a series of fins that looks like Miniblinds. Crevice tool attaches to hose handle and is difficult to remove and reattach.
The Kenmore TOL series would be the blue Intuition canister. It's very quiet, has dirt sensor, variable speed control, on/off for entire machine and power nozzle on hose handle. In general the suction unit is very nice with large bag capacity. This vacuums problem is the power nozzle. It's a hybrid head with removable bare floor brush that completes the power nozzles. This makes for a bulkier, harder to maneuver power head that in my experience is much more cumbersome to maneuver than a normal canister power head. Due to its bulky connection to power head, once wand lowers to about 9" off the floor, the front of the power nozzle starts lifting off the rug. For a canister power nozzle this is bad as it really defeats purpose of a canister vacuum. The bare floor brush is very skimpy on bristles and connection to power nozzle is very delicate and numerous consumers including my client who has purchased 3 of these units for her 11,000 sq. foot home and separate meeting space over the years has had 2 units break and power head will not reattach to wands. New parts to fix connection cost about $100 through Sears.
Kirbylux77 can tell you more about this than I can, but in recent years, sadly Panasonic has been continuously switching motors in their units and using very cheap ones. Panasonic makes all of the Kenmore canisters so both companies products have suction units that are experiencing motor death at about 4- 6 years old.
It is my opinion that the Royal is a much better quality machine and will clean better than these Kenmores. The power nozzle on the Hoover has longer bristles over the CenTec CT20DXQD series heads found on the Kenmores and grooms carpets better while grabbing pet hair and other dirt faster. The Royal power nozzle also utilizes Hoovers patented Windtunnel design. The hose handle on the Royal is extremely comfortable with long very flexible, durable material and power nozzle is very powerful.
For those have not yet taken a closer look at this in a vacuum shop, I would advise doing so. First look at a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary, then look at this. I think you'll find its not nearly as bad as you think. Is it perfect--- NO!! Is it anywhere near the quality of the previous Royal Power Tank that we all miss--- NO! But it's a closer image to that of Miele, Sebo, Riccar, Lindhaus, Kenmore and all of those other machines that are also nearly all PLASTIC!! The suction unit on the Royal has a solid construction feel.
If you look at a Hoover Windtunnel bagged canister from around 2007 like the S3639 and those PowerMax series ones, you would be more impressed with the newer body style. It is a sealed system with HEPA filtration which its predecessor was nowhere near sealed and filtration was terrible!! As much as I love its predecessor the filtration was terrible and body construction was flimsy. Not so with the new series!!
fantomlightning
Well-known member
Was...
The essay on Sears Kenmore really necessary? Yes, the new machines are horrid quality wise many people have posted that information many times, most all are familiar with the concept. Only reason I brought them up is they are one of the most known canister brands on the market. My point was for a Chinese made machine why does it cost this much other than for insane profit margins for TTI? Yes, Sebo, Miele, and others (Kenmore aside) you listed above are also made of plastic. The other machines however are NOT built in countries with horrid labor and quality control issues such as China.
The essay on Sears Kenmore really necessary? Yes, the new machines are horrid quality wise many people have posted that information many times, most all are familiar with the concept. Only reason I brought them up is they are one of the most known canister brands on the market. My point was for a Chinese made machine why does it cost this much other than for insane profit margins for TTI? Yes, Sebo, Miele, and others (Kenmore aside) you listed above are also made of plastic. The other machines however are NOT built in countries with horrid labor and quality control issues such as China.
kirbyloverdan
Well-known member
When I owned
my store and was a Miele Dealer , The Miele Plus S251 vacuum cleaners are made by Miele, assembled in China from components of Germany and China.
my store and was a Miele Dealer , The Miele Plus S251 vacuum cleaners are made by Miele, assembled in China from components of Germany and China.
durango159
Well-known member
CTSooner
I am very happy that you found a vacuum that suits your needs and is doing a decent job you. I think ease of use, good filtration and powerful were your primary requirements due to your condition.
I appreciate the sealed system with excellent filtration, I appreciate the quiet motor with variable speed at finger tips, I like the telescopic wand as it seems sturdy, I have read about their tapered diameter hose for increased airflow. The crevice tool is decent length, the upholstery nozzle is a good width with strong bristles which work well on pet hair. The 40' cord is awesome. I also appreciate the large bag and suction coming from top which sustains strong suction as bag fills.
I do not own a Sebo D4, my experience with it comes from my newest house cleaning client which is a house with spare rooms for Bed & Breakfast set up. The black Sebo Airbelt D4 was purchased in the beginning of November. The home owner has told me that the house is 11,000 Sq. Ft. I clean at her property about 3 days a week anywhere from 3-8 hours depending on events, my schedule,dirt level, and arranging for different sections to be done. Client is very particular about cleanliness and dust elimination while having lots of foot traffic coming in and out along with pets. The house is primarily ceramic tile with some hard wood flooring, an 18 step, double wide staircase, and several area rugs of varying sizes. Rugs vary of everything from rubber bottomed low pile indoor/outdoor rugs to approx. 20' x 15' low density weave 2.5" long yarn style rug. I've tried a combination of all height adjustments, varying suction for all rugs. I can not get D4 to clean any of the carpets to my satisfaction. Any of the rugs exceeding 1" in pile height to the 20'x 15' long weave yarn rug, the vacuum can't handle at all. The belt protection board shuts off the power nozzle on all of them. I completely understand that for the long weave rug but the regular length dense rugs even my old school upright Hoover Decade 80 can handle fine!! The lower pile rug and regular cut style rugs, the power head just not clean well. I have to push it at an absolute snails pace trying to get it to suck up pet hair, lint and other, visible dirt. The agitator is clean. I've taken it off a few times and cleaned it blue bristles. There's never anything on it, but I take it off anyway just to make sure. I also open up the orange clog release door on bottom of PN and ensure that is clear. I hold back the resistance of the powerheads "self propel" feel so that it can take its time to clean the rug but it doesn't seem to work. Eventually after several slow passes the low pile carpets look clean. Sometimes I still touch up rugs with Powermate Jr. attachment on customers Kenmore Intuition canister. Main power nozzle is broken for the Kenmore canister so I can't use it.
I've taken my Hoover PowerMax canister, Hoover Decade 80 upright-- in picture below, Riccar 1700 canister and Kenmore Lime Green canister vac to this clients house. The Riccar, Kenmore and clients Dyson upright are the only vacuums that can clean the extremely long threaded yarn style rug with approx. 2.5" long threads. However all 4 of my vacs can clean all of the other rugs in the house and do so with ease. The Riccar does much better with tile floors and all carpets in comparison with Sebo. The Sebo has terrific suction but not like the Riccar. There is a tremendous difference.
I'm not a typical "Once over Lightly" styled house cleaner. I'm in the business to clean houses thoroughly and efficiently. I vacuum every area of carpet several strokes. I allow time for chemicals to remove stubborn stains and disinfect on all all bathroom fixtures and tile flooring before final wipe down. The products I use have to clean well and I'm very fussy about cleaning chemicals, mops and vacuums.
I am ecstatic that the machine is working well for you where it didn't for me. I only hope that the trend continues and you're not disappointed in a few months!!
I am very happy that you found a vacuum that suits your needs and is doing a decent job you. I think ease of use, good filtration and powerful were your primary requirements due to your condition.
I appreciate the sealed system with excellent filtration, I appreciate the quiet motor with variable speed at finger tips, I like the telescopic wand as it seems sturdy, I have read about their tapered diameter hose for increased airflow. The crevice tool is decent length, the upholstery nozzle is a good width with strong bristles which work well on pet hair. The 40' cord is awesome. I also appreciate the large bag and suction coming from top which sustains strong suction as bag fills.
I do not own a Sebo D4, my experience with it comes from my newest house cleaning client which is a house with spare rooms for Bed & Breakfast set up. The black Sebo Airbelt D4 was purchased in the beginning of November. The home owner has told me that the house is 11,000 Sq. Ft. I clean at her property about 3 days a week anywhere from 3-8 hours depending on events, my schedule,dirt level, and arranging for different sections to be done. Client is very particular about cleanliness and dust elimination while having lots of foot traffic coming in and out along with pets. The house is primarily ceramic tile with some hard wood flooring, an 18 step, double wide staircase, and several area rugs of varying sizes. Rugs vary of everything from rubber bottomed low pile indoor/outdoor rugs to approx. 20' x 15' low density weave 2.5" long yarn style rug. I've tried a combination of all height adjustments, varying suction for all rugs. I can not get D4 to clean any of the carpets to my satisfaction. Any of the rugs exceeding 1" in pile height to the 20'x 15' long weave yarn rug, the vacuum can't handle at all. The belt protection board shuts off the power nozzle on all of them. I completely understand that for the long weave rug but the regular length dense rugs even my old school upright Hoover Decade 80 can handle fine!! The lower pile rug and regular cut style rugs, the power head just not clean well. I have to push it at an absolute snails pace trying to get it to suck up pet hair, lint and other, visible dirt. The agitator is clean. I've taken it off a few times and cleaned it blue bristles. There's never anything on it, but I take it off anyway just to make sure. I also open up the orange clog release door on bottom of PN and ensure that is clear. I hold back the resistance of the powerheads "self propel" feel so that it can take its time to clean the rug but it doesn't seem to work. Eventually after several slow passes the low pile carpets look clean. Sometimes I still touch up rugs with Powermate Jr. attachment on customers Kenmore Intuition canister. Main power nozzle is broken for the Kenmore canister so I can't use it.
I've taken my Hoover PowerMax canister, Hoover Decade 80 upright-- in picture below, Riccar 1700 canister and Kenmore Lime Green canister vac to this clients house. The Riccar, Kenmore and clients Dyson upright are the only vacuums that can clean the extremely long threaded yarn style rug with approx. 2.5" long threads. However all 4 of my vacs can clean all of the other rugs in the house and do so with ease. The Riccar does much better with tile floors and all carpets in comparison with Sebo. The Sebo has terrific suction but not like the Riccar. There is a tremendous difference.
I'm not a typical "Once over Lightly" styled house cleaner. I'm in the business to clean houses thoroughly and efficiently. I vacuum every area of carpet several strokes. I allow time for chemicals to remove stubborn stains and disinfect on all all bathroom fixtures and tile flooring before final wipe down. The products I use have to clean well and I'm very fussy about cleaning chemicals, mops and vacuums.
I am ecstatic that the machine is working well for you where it didn't for me. I only hope that the trend continues and you're not disappointed in a few months!!
Sorry it didn't work for you
Hmmm, I did a TON of research. Not many basic consumers would have found a vacuum board to try and get input I don't think. No I'm not in the business, but I like nice things. It's too bad you had such a poor experience with the D4, but like I"ve always said, this is why they make different models etc.... I'm sure I'm as particular as you are about having a clean home. I have lived on ships for many years (retired Naval officer/ship driver) and it was brutal. I am meticulous in the way I groom, dress, clean etc.. I have been a high end audiophile since I was 13 and I learned at a young age to pay properly and that the most expensive or most hyped name isn't usually the best. I also learned that if you don't take great care of your stuff, you wont' be happy and it will never perform the way it's intended. I took my MS out of this equation as much as I could. I realized that just like high end audio, it's not all about the tech specs. Anything over 90 will have good enough suction to pick up anything in a house as long as the heads and hoses can handle it.
In audio, I give input. I ask and answer any question newbies have and I try to always take into account everything they say they need, but I always ask them what they DON"T want. That's more important to me. Then I make sure they go play and listen to everything and then use everything. No matter how great a system or product is, it must be set up correctly and used correctly or it won't perform the way it's intended. Sometimes folks go against my advice and purchase something different than I have shown them. In those cases I've always congratulated them and am happy for them as they got what they wanted. In nearly all those cases they've been so happy years later and that's what it's all about. I never have squashed any of their initial excitement as I don't want them to have buyer remorse. If they think Bose are the best speakers, that's fine by me even though they have no highs or lows, so they must be Bose.
I researched everything about these units and I saw every one of them taken apart to see their motors and where they are sourced. I saw how small the Oreck units really are. I saw the power heads taken apart to see their motors too. I saw how the new Mieles are now made again in Germany. There are things wrong with every cleaner out there. For every person like you who seems to dislike the D4, there are many others who swear by it. This machine has won many design awards and the suction unit is a special design that no one else has. Guess it's a good thing I don't have 2.5" long thread carpets. I only have wood, tile and medium length carpet and a rug that has not stopped my PN yet. I tried the Capricorn, Moxie and D4 with full bags. The D4 was the ONLY one of the three that didn't lose suction. The other two had problems picking up basic dirt and lint with their bags full. I throw my bags away half full, but it showed me that the D4 is the only one of the three I was looking at that won't lose it's power as it fills up. To me clinical test with an empty bag has to be looked at in context.
As for the use of plastic, they all do. There are many different types though. I could fall and the one thing I did take into account was falling down, which I often do. I'd crush the tops of the Miele as well as the Moxie. The D4 is pretty bullet proof and I love the flat top as it gives me something to put my hand on when falling if needed. You luckily dont' ever have to think about something like that when making your decision and that's a great thing.
I'm very excited without any buyers remorse. I didn't have the extra 300 to buy up to a Miele, but to me that wasn't really buying up anyways. I could have waited for a new unit that I've heard is coming out in the next year or less that will have more suction than anything on the market now and will be smaller and lighter. It will most probably have even better power heads etc..., but in the end, it will probably out of my price range too. New things always come out and not all are better so I won't concern myself with what's next as I do in audio. I'll just keep looking forward to cleaning like I always do and I'll enjoy having made a great decision about a great tool as many others before me have. I am sure I misread the intent of your post, especially the last sentence where you said: "I am ecstatic that the machine is working well for you where it didn't for me. I only hope that the trend continues and you're not disappointed in a few months!!". I've learned that on internet boards the written word isn't always in the same tone as it's meant to be. I'm not the only one who took your post to come off as condescending. I got two emails about it believe it or not.
I do sincerely appreciate your help as well as the guidance of everyone who's posted in this thread. It's helped me more than you can imagine. Please take my post in the correct manor as I'm just pointing out that I'm really excited about my vacuum and I made the right choice for me. I too hope that I'll be happy about my choice in a few months from now.
Now if anyone's interested I'm selling a 30" Lynx grill in GREAT shape that has the Powesear, infra-red burner and rotisserie. It's a stand alone unit with the steel shelves and natural gas. I'll let it go at a great price as I've found a new toy that I want for my grilling and smoking that's just come out. I also have a TON of entry level high end as well as some upper high end gear that I'm willing to let go for fair market value as my needs have changed. I'm sure in the future I'll be listing a used D4 as there will be another vacuum that I'll just want more. Maybe that new one I heard about? Won't that be fun. I will promise all of you that I'll only have one in the house at a time.....that is unless I decide to keep the D4 up stairs in the carpeted area and get one just for the wood floor on the first floor.........and the saga continues.
NYC, I can't wait to see what you chose and what will go into your thought process in the end. Cool isn't it? My wife just laughs at me and let's me play. I picked well this time.
Hmmm, I did a TON of research. Not many basic consumers would have found a vacuum board to try and get input I don't think. No I'm not in the business, but I like nice things. It's too bad you had such a poor experience with the D4, but like I"ve always said, this is why they make different models etc.... I'm sure I'm as particular as you are about having a clean home. I have lived on ships for many years (retired Naval officer/ship driver) and it was brutal. I am meticulous in the way I groom, dress, clean etc.. I have been a high end audiophile since I was 13 and I learned at a young age to pay properly and that the most expensive or most hyped name isn't usually the best. I also learned that if you don't take great care of your stuff, you wont' be happy and it will never perform the way it's intended. I took my MS out of this equation as much as I could. I realized that just like high end audio, it's not all about the tech specs. Anything over 90 will have good enough suction to pick up anything in a house as long as the heads and hoses can handle it.
In audio, I give input. I ask and answer any question newbies have and I try to always take into account everything they say they need, but I always ask them what they DON"T want. That's more important to me. Then I make sure they go play and listen to everything and then use everything. No matter how great a system or product is, it must be set up correctly and used correctly or it won't perform the way it's intended. Sometimes folks go against my advice and purchase something different than I have shown them. In those cases I've always congratulated them and am happy for them as they got what they wanted. In nearly all those cases they've been so happy years later and that's what it's all about. I never have squashed any of their initial excitement as I don't want them to have buyer remorse. If they think Bose are the best speakers, that's fine by me even though they have no highs or lows, so they must be Bose.
I researched everything about these units and I saw every one of them taken apart to see their motors and where they are sourced. I saw how small the Oreck units really are. I saw the power heads taken apart to see their motors too. I saw how the new Mieles are now made again in Germany. There are things wrong with every cleaner out there. For every person like you who seems to dislike the D4, there are many others who swear by it. This machine has won many design awards and the suction unit is a special design that no one else has. Guess it's a good thing I don't have 2.5" long thread carpets. I only have wood, tile and medium length carpet and a rug that has not stopped my PN yet. I tried the Capricorn, Moxie and D4 with full bags. The D4 was the ONLY one of the three that didn't lose suction. The other two had problems picking up basic dirt and lint with their bags full. I throw my bags away half full, but it showed me that the D4 is the only one of the three I was looking at that won't lose it's power as it fills up. To me clinical test with an empty bag has to be looked at in context.
As for the use of plastic, they all do. There are many different types though. I could fall and the one thing I did take into account was falling down, which I often do. I'd crush the tops of the Miele as well as the Moxie. The D4 is pretty bullet proof and I love the flat top as it gives me something to put my hand on when falling if needed. You luckily dont' ever have to think about something like that when making your decision and that's a great thing.
I'm very excited without any buyers remorse. I didn't have the extra 300 to buy up to a Miele, but to me that wasn't really buying up anyways. I could have waited for a new unit that I've heard is coming out in the next year or less that will have more suction than anything on the market now and will be smaller and lighter. It will most probably have even better power heads etc..., but in the end, it will probably out of my price range too. New things always come out and not all are better so I won't concern myself with what's next as I do in audio. I'll just keep looking forward to cleaning like I always do and I'll enjoy having made a great decision about a great tool as many others before me have. I am sure I misread the intent of your post, especially the last sentence where you said: "I am ecstatic that the machine is working well for you where it didn't for me. I only hope that the trend continues and you're not disappointed in a few months!!". I've learned that on internet boards the written word isn't always in the same tone as it's meant to be. I'm not the only one who took your post to come off as condescending. I got two emails about it believe it or not.
I do sincerely appreciate your help as well as the guidance of everyone who's posted in this thread. It's helped me more than you can imagine. Please take my post in the correct manor as I'm just pointing out that I'm really excited about my vacuum and I made the right choice for me. I too hope that I'll be happy about my choice in a few months from now.
Now if anyone's interested I'm selling a 30" Lynx grill in GREAT shape that has the Powesear, infra-red burner and rotisserie. It's a stand alone unit with the steel shelves and natural gas. I'll let it go at a great price as I've found a new toy that I want for my grilling and smoking that's just come out. I also have a TON of entry level high end as well as some upper high end gear that I'm willing to let go for fair market value as my needs have changed. I'm sure in the future I'll be listing a used D4 as there will be another vacuum that I'll just want more. Maybe that new one I heard about? Won't that be fun. I will promise all of you that I'll only have one in the house at a time.....that is unless I decide to keep the D4 up stairs in the carpeted area and get one just for the wood floor on the first floor.........and the saga continues.
NYC, I can't wait to see what you chose and what will go into your thought process in the end. Cool isn't it? My wife just laughs at me and let's me play. I picked well this time.
nycwriter
Well-known member
CTSooner ...
"I'm very excited without any buyers remorse. I didn't have the extra 300 to buy up to a Miele, but to me that wasn't really buying up anyways."
I agree.
I have the extra $300, but I'm considering all the vacs on a level playing field.
I'll check out the Royal ... the Sebo (I'll have to just tape a damn flashlight to the power nozzle -- ugh) ... and maybe even the Lindhaus.
I'm sure they all *suck* the dirt pretty much equally. What will win out for me, as in many things, is fit and feel ... accessories (I MUST have a mini-power head to clean the cat hair off my upholstery -- suction alone doesn't cut it) ... noise level ... and ease of use.
"I'm very excited without any buyers remorse. I didn't have the extra 300 to buy up to a Miele, but to me that wasn't really buying up anyways."
I agree.
I have the extra $300, but I'm considering all the vacs on a level playing field.
I'll check out the Royal ... the Sebo (I'll have to just tape a damn flashlight to the power nozzle -- ugh) ... and maybe even the Lindhaus.
I'm sure they all *suck* the dirt pretty much equally. What will win out for me, as in many things, is fit and feel ... accessories (I MUST have a mini-power head to clean the cat hair off my upholstery -- suction alone doesn't cut it) ... noise level ... and ease of use.
nycwriter
Well-known member
Durango ...
Do you clean homes in Manhattan??
Do you clean homes in Manhattan??
NYC
I didn't find many that have the smaller power nozzle, just the turbo ones. Maybe Miele does offer that. That's a good question, which ones offer that? I never even gave that a second thought. See different choices for all. I love it.
I didn't find many that have the smaller power nozzle, just the turbo ones. Maybe Miele does offer that. That's a good question, which ones offer that? I never even gave that a second thought. See different choices for all. I love it.
NYCwriter & CTsooner,
The only brands to offer a power hand mini turbo is Aerus and Riccar/Simplicity....see their websites for more information. Lesser known door to door brands such as Rainbow, TriStar & Hyla also offer this as well, however, you will shell out $2,000 for one of those machines, and so not worth it... its all bs!
The only brands to offer a power hand mini turbo is Aerus and Riccar/Simplicity....see their websites for more information. Lesser known door to door brands such as Rainbow, TriStar & Hyla also offer this as well, however, you will shell out $2,000 for one of those machines, and so not worth it... its all bs!
nycwriter
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GM1982 ...
Not true.
Sebo, Miele, and Royal all offer the mini-powerheads.
Not true.
Sebo, Miele, and Royal all offer the mini-powerheads.
BTW...
The Riccar/Simplicity mini power nozzle is an add on item, found on the buy now section of the website. Personally, I think its overpriced and Aerus gives it to you with the machine.
NYCwriter: Check the link below, this is probably the best vac for what you are looking for. I'm serious. The miele vacuums have a nice turbo mini, not powered but I have used one and honestly you would think its powered.
http://www.aerusvacuums.com/luxguardianplatinumcanister/
The Riccar/Simplicity mini power nozzle is an add on item, found on the buy now section of the website. Personally, I think its overpriced and Aerus gives it to you with the machine.
NYCwriter: Check the link below, this is probably the best vac for what you are looking for. I'm serious. The miele vacuums have a nice turbo mini, not powered but I have used one and honestly you would think its powered.
http://www.aerusvacuums.com/luxguardianplatinumcanister/
fantomlightning
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KirbyLoverDan...
Yes, Miele has made machines in China. They however don't anymore, and haven't for years. Even the S2 series that is cheaper than the S20 is made in Germany.
Yes, Miele has made machines in China. They however don't anymore, and haven't for years. Even the S2 series that is cheaper than the S20 is made in Germany.
kirbyloverdan
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The Air
Driven turbo heads do NOT perform well at all .
I love my ELECTRIC mini power nozzle on my new Aerus Guardian Platnium .
Driven turbo heads do NOT perform well at all .
I love my ELECTRIC mini power nozzle on my new Aerus Guardian Platnium .
Wish I could have afforded the planium Lux
That honestly was by far the best one I tried. I could probably gotten a great deal on one and if things were a bit different I would have bought one. Say what you want about Lux and yea they are overpriced but is there anything else comparable? I didn't see anything that would have been for me.
That honestly was by far the best one I tried. I could probably gotten a great deal on one and if things were a bit different I would have bought one. Say what you want about Lux and yea they are overpriced but is there anything else comparable? I didn't see anything that would have been for me.
dysondestijl
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So- have you decided what vacuum to get yet? Also what you gonna do with the fantom?
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