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Matt

you keep saying you have no room 1000 sqaure feet is really large for NY . Simplicity and Riccars out clean a Kirby so much for a beefed up Broom . Maybe you better learn more about vacuums before you claim to know something you dont know anything about . I am done with nasty people good luck in your never ending quest.I find it hard to belive what little most supposed collectors know about vacuums . I never needed to ask anyone how to fix something or what to buy . I guess if you really are into something like I am you just learn by trial and error .
 
My house is a Levittown style Cape Cod style house built in 1953. It has 3 bedrooms/1 bathroom with full basement and 2 car detached garage. The garage was built in 1960. The 1st floor is 876 sq ft. The 2nd floor is 396 sq ft. The basement is 792 sq ft. My house is a total of 2064 sq ft.
 
NYCWriter and CTSooner,
How about a Riccar SupraLite/Simplicity Freedom upright and a Riccar SupraQuik/Simplicity Sport canister? Those are rated very well by Consumer Reports and they are much better than the Orecks.
Consumer Reports Ratings:
Riccar SupraLite/Simplicity Freedom:
Excellent in deep cleaning medium pile nylon plush carpeting/Excellent in cleaning hard floors/Fair in suction/Excellent in filtration/Fair in noise.
I hope this helps.
 
Kirbyloverdan: "you keep saying you have no room 1000 sqaure feet is really large for NY . Simplicity and Riccars out clean a Kirby so much for a beefed up Broom . Maybe you better learn more about vacuums before you claim to know something you dont know anything about . I am done with nasty people good luck in your never ending quest.I find it hard to belive what little most supposed collectors know about vacuums . I never needed to ask anyone how to fix something or what to buy . I guess if you really are into something like I am you just learn by trial and error ."

WOW.

I've been on many controversial discussion forums, but I never expected the claws to come out on a freaking VACUUM website.

I never claimed to be an expert, which is why I reached out on this forum. And reviewing my comments, I don't recall being nasty. If I came across that way, that was not my intention and I apologize.

I'm glad you never needed to ask someone how to fix anything. More power to you. Some of us don't have the room for workshops, or frankly the time to delve into such projects. Type "A" professional New Yorkers like myself find it much more practical to just pick up the phone, call a repairman, and write a check.
 
Hey there Troy Rob!

The lightweight vacs you mention are all very good, but if you read this full thread, Matt prefers to store only one vacuum, not a pair of units.

Let's wait to see what he says after trying out some of the vacs he is interested in in his local vac stores. It looks like he has already narrowed down the choice to a few vacs: the Miele uprights and power nozzle canisters, and the Tacony and Royal power nozzle canisters.

:-)
 
My current Oreck is going to my wife's office. That's how this search started, lol. I spoke with someone today from this forum and I'm still thinking Miele, but going to play with the Earth to see what I think. I will also wait for 2 more days to see if I win my bid on Ebay for the Moxie. If my bid of 207 plus shipping holds up, I'll own a demo in good shape, but with no warranty. You guys all said not to worry about it breaking down, so I hope and pray you are right, lol. I have a strong feeling that's going to be my unit since there was only one other who bid and when his high bid tied mine he hasn't been back from what I've seen. I almost hope he snipes me at the end though as I want to go back and see the Sebo D4. I likeed it when I tried it in the store. It was actually the first one I played with and it felt substantial and was quiet. It picked up screws in the store and rice. Don't know if rice is hard to pick up, but it was in the first pass, lol. My wife would like the looks of it too and don't think that isn't important. WAF is what we audiophiles call it (wife acceptance factor). I've now spoken to two who own or have owned Miele's and the D4 and they like the D4 better and say repairs and accessories are less for the D4.

As for Kirby, I had them in a few years ago when they wouldn't take no for an answer and I liked the machine, but it was a bear to work and there is no way my wife would even attempt to use it when I am unable to get out of bed (MS). I gave them my ex's name and she bought it. She loves it, but it's always out since it won't fit in the closet and it's broken twice and I've had to go over there a handful of times to figure out that darn belt change for accessories. No thanks. My wife has bad experience with the Rainbow and NO WAY am I getting into a machine that needs washing all the time. I want a canister and would look strongly at that new cool Lux if I had the dough, but if I did, I'd go with a built in central vac I think.

It's like I tell people in audio, listen to your ears and eyes. What one likes for one reason is not your reason. One of my friends called me from Best Buy the other day and asked me what AVR he should buy so I went with asking him a ton of questions while his sales guy waited. He went ready to spend 1000 on a Denon and he walked out spending less than 350 for lowest cost Marantz. he never even heard of Marantz before that call. He called yesterday and thanked me with his wife in the back yelling out, Thanks Pete. Made me feel good, but they both said it sounded better in their system than anything else they heard in the store (the store had to do mail order to get it as their sales guy never heard of the Marantz as they only sold it in their upper end stores.

Similar price ranges here, but sometimes the lesser known companies will give more bang for the buck or fewer goodies and better performance. You often don't realize that maybe 70% of all the hospitals in the world use a product under a different name (Sebo). Miele is widely available and the 'known' name for high end vacs, but Sebo sure seems pretty awesome too. In high end hand made kitchen knives, I have Suisin and a few other names that are hand made in Seki Japan. How many of you have heard of Suisin? It's an incredible knife and BLOWS away the Global or Kershaw knives (Shun). I also have a Masahiro sushi knife I love to use. I can give you specs and types of metal and hardness etc... We can talk about sharpening to a mirror finish on a 16000 grit natural or ceramic stone and go on and on. Bottom line some of the less costly knives will work just as good and you only need to sharpen to about 1000 grit and if you keep it sharp, it won't matter what metal they are using or the cost.

That's what vacs seem to be. I don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get a great vac that will stand up to my once/twice a week work. I take very good care of my stuff and always have so if it breaks it's probably on the unit and they will fix it (if I get to buy locally which I want to do). I'm going to see what happend on Ebay and if I win, I'll pay and get my unit and be happy and feel I got a great deal. If not, I won't lose a second and I'll start to price out the Sebo D4, Moxie and the Earth and go from there. Best buy/value is the winner and I'll be really happy and clean, lol.

You guys have been and continue to be great and I so appreciate it.
 
Panasonic Performance Plus Platinum upright

NYCWriter, that would be my first suggestion to you for an upright. These vacuums are VERY light to push, have stretch hose & onboard tools, & a barefloor shifter to shut brushroll off & clean barefloor. Cloth HEPA bags can be purchased in bulk online for inexpensive prices, so there would hardly be any dust emissions. And it's also nice that they have a metal bottom plate & brushroll for durability. And Panasonic is known for reliability...it's very common to see a Panasonic upright come in for repair from the early 1990's where I live. However, having said those things....DO NOT buy a retail-grade Panasonic!! They are NOT built as well as the Performance Plus Platinum line found at dealers, & you will find many complaints about retail models on sites like Amazon. I would also suggest you steer far away from the Panasonic copycats, like the Riccar Vibrance & Fuller Brush uprights. My dealer, when he was still in business, got the Carpet Pro, Fuller Brush & Riccar Vibrance uprights to sell (as they are all made by Tacony) & had motor problems with all 3 lines! In particular, he had I think 3 or 4 of the Riccar Vibrance models come in needing new motors at 2 years old....unimpressive considering they came with a 4 year motor warranty. Panasonic's Performance Plus Platinum line truly is the best over all the "wannabe's" on the market, & best of all, they cost the same too!

The Oreck, Simplicity, Riccar & Hoover lightweight uprights....I would IMMEDIATELY rule them out. I have an Oreck XL2000RHB Commercial, same as the household Oreck XL's without the headlight, & hate it. Cleaning power is pathetic....hardly any airflow....and brushroll bristles are way too soft! And I have tried the others, too, with similar opinions of them too. Bottom line- they are what a lot of people call them, oversized broom vac's. Considering they want $300 & $400 for these uprights, why spend that kind of money when other full-size uprights clean better for far less money?!

Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Edition & Royal Lexon S20 canisters.....Again, rule them right out! The Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary Edition has a BIG PROBLEM with the circuit board failing prematurely & requiring replacement under warranty. The 2 wires that are permanently connected to the board that supply power to the PN receptacle on the canister fail prematurely, & since those wires can't be removed & replaced, that requires replacement of the entire board. Some people claim TTI/Hoover has resolved the issue, but I don't buy it for a minute! Royal Lexon S20 canisters are the same canister with different cosmetics, different hose/wand/PN, so I would also rule it out too since it would use the same faulty circuit board.

Kenmore & Panasonic canisters....Rule them out! First off, the older models, including present-model Panasonic canisters, have problems with the PN receptacle in the hose handle, wand PN receptacle, & quick-release PN plug, burning out over time. Those can be replaced easily at home, & can also be avoided with careful usage. However, the major problem with these vacuums of recent has been their motors! Panasonic switched I believe around 2005 to a new motor design that has been VERY unreliable....it's very common to see a Panasonic or Kenmore canister come into the repair shop between 4-6 years old with a burnt-up motor, requiring a replacement, & a $200 repair bill later. Also, for the allergy sufferer....yes it's nice you can use Cloth HEPA bags, but the HEPA filter is an unsealed system, & LOTS of air escapes around the filter unfiltered, defeating it's purpose to begin with. And not impressive considering to get a entry-level Kenmore with decent features, you're gonna spend $300; about $300-$400 for the Panasonic MCG 902 with equivalent features as the Kenmore. Why spend that when for $100-$200 more, you can buy a S2 Miele with their legendary filtration?!

Riccar/Simplicity canisters....Here's my take on them. Yes, they are a good product. BUT when you start comparing them to Miele & Sebo, they don't look so good. Why? Well, they sell in the same price range, have comparable features, Cloth HEPA bags, Sealed HEPA filtration, etc....BUT what they will not be so quick to tell you is only the Riccar Impeccable, Riccar Immaculate, Simplicity Gusto & Simplicity Moxie are the ONLY MODELS that are actually made in America. And even then, ONLY THE BODY IS MADE IN AMERICA & IT'S MOLDED & THE VACUUM IS ASSEMBLED THERE! The fact is, ALL THEIR COMPONENTS are outsourced to Kingclean in China....suction motor, circuit boards, ALL OF IT are sourced from China. And the rest of their canisters, such as the Riccar Pristine & Simplicity Verve, are made by Kingclean in China. The ONLY component that is NOT Chinese-made is the electric hoses....those are outsourced to Hanmi in South Korea. My local dealer, before he went out of business, carried the Riccar Pristine & 1500P for his customers, & he had HUGE problems with the Pristine! He was literally getting brand new vacuums, & took them out & turned them on...fine. 2nd time he goes to turn it on in front of a customer....failed circuit boards!! Needless to say, he was NOT impressed...and this happened with I think 5 or 6 vacuums he received, that he had to ship back to them & have new canisters sent to replace them. Considering they are asking the same as Miele wants for their products, & prices for bags & filters are comparable to Miele bags & filters, I don't know where your loyalties lie, but I would personally choose German engineering & components over American engineering & Chinese components.

Miele....Yes, they are a good product, & arguably one of the best choices you could buy right now in a canister. BUT they are VERY overpriced for what you get. And the cost of their bags & filters is absolutely ridiculous. $20 for one 4 pack of bags?!?! $50-$60 for a HEPA filter?!?! Madness! Way too expensive to use & maintain on a regular basis, at least for my liking. I actually have 2 Miele's that hardly see any use for that very reason, & have considered many times selling them. Also, about the Miele S8 uprights...sure they are nice, but again the high cost of the bags would deter me. Especially when the Panasonic Performance Plus Platinum uprights use Cloth HEPA bags, they clean just as well, & the Optiflow models do have a HEPA filter before the motor now, making them sealed. And generic Cloth HEPA bags can be found for the Panasonic for 1/2 the cost of Miele bags, that would work just as well at containing the dust.

Sebo....I would completely disagree with Rob Shore's comments above! I personally own a Sebo Airbelt C3.1 canister with the ET-C computerized powerhead, & I love it!! And I will one day justify upgrading to the D4 Airbelt model, probably when in 10 or 15 years from now my C3.1 motor finally dies. I personally like the hose on my Sebo better than my 2 Miele's....I find it more flexible, longer, & not as rigid. Plus it's also nice that the speed control is right at my fingertips. You can use the speed control to shut down the entire vacuum from the hose. Only disadvantage with Sebo is unless you have the ET-1 powerhead, there is no way to shut off the brushroll, as there is no on/off switch on the hose for the powerhead. Rob Shore has mentioned in the past he felt that Sebo's suction & airflow wasn't as strong as Miele....I haven't found that to be the case. The bags are bigger on Sebo D4 than Miele's G/N bags that the S8 Series uses, & Sebo's bag & filters are more reasonably priced, too. I will agree with Rob that the ET-1 powerhead isn't as good as the Miele SEB228 or SEB236, the brushes are softer on Sebo ET-1 & doesn't groom as aggressively. However, the Sebo ET-C L shaped computerized powerhead is still available, so you could always specify your new D4 come with the ET-C instead of the ET-1. If that isn't possible, then you could buy an ET-C powerhead separately & sell the ET-1 on Ebay. Tools are just as nice on the D4 as the Miele models too. And I personally feel that the Sebo canisters are better made & better quality than Miele. Due to this, & the bag & filter costs, I would choose Sebo over Miele.

Here are my reccomendations to you for a canister, NYCWriter. Sebo if you want a German-made canister with high-end filtration & features.

I would also suggest you look at a REFURBISHED older-model Aerus Electrolux canister on Ebay. One really good way to go would be to buy one from American Vacuum Supply on Ebay. They have the plastic-bodied Electrolux canisters, usually under $250, refurbished with brand new Electrolux motor installed. Then I would walk into your Aerus dealer, & buy a brand new hose, wand, & powerhead with the new-style brushroll, & new tools to complete it. This way, you are essentially getting a brand-new Electrolux BUT with the better-quality double stage motor Electrolux was known for, not their crappy single-stage Johnson Electric motors they use now. And you can also use the Perfect Cloth HEPA bags in them, which are very inexpensive, & the afterfilters, & get very good filtration....comparable to a Miele with the Super Air Clean filter installed & using the Cloth HEPA bags. Yes, they may not have fancy features such as speed control, but if you want reliability & a cleaner that cleans circles around the others, you can't beat a well-maintained Electrolux canister. I would imagine you could put everything together for a total cost of around $800-$1000.

If you don't mind buying a Chinese-made product: I would also suggest looking at the Perfect C101 metal canister, that is a copy of the Electrolux Diamond Jubilee but without the Automatic Control feature for bag changes. It has SUPERIOR suction to ANYTHING suggested above, or in any of the other member's posts....125" waterlift! That's 25% more than Miele, Riccar/Simplicity or Sebo even have!! Plus, they have a on/off switch on the hose handle for the powerhead, & they have perfected the L-shaped Electrolux powerhead & made it an excellent groomer & deep-cleaner with the new chevron brushroll. Tools are exactly the same as you would see on an Electrolux, except they offer a hand turbobrush instead of a Sidekick. But you could always buy a Sidekick for it at an Aerus dealer or on Ebay if you have to have one. You can use Electrolux 4-ply bags for economy, or for great filtration you can use the Perfect Cloth HEPA bags.

A refurbished TriStar CXL or DXL on Ebay would also be another great choice. Metal body, great suction, simple classic design that there's hardly anything to break down. Motor can always be replaced or have carbons changed when it's time. And the powerhead is OK, but if you desire something more powerful, a Sweep & Groom powerhead & new wands can always be purchased & used with the TriStar. As for filtration, you can purchase the Medik-Aire HEPA filter offered with the Patriot & Air-Storm TriStar copycat vacuums, & use that with your TriStar. Pricey at $200 a filter, BUT you should be able to get 5 years usage out of one too.

If I was in your shoes, I would be looking hard at the Perfect & a refurbished Electrolux myself. Perhaps the Panasonic uprights, but then again I am more a canister guy myself.

Best of luck to you, & hopefully I have been of some help....Rob
 
NYCwriter, if you are set on an upright that is convenient to use but are willing to compromise as far as on board tools are concerned, the latest Aerus Guardian Upright maybe a good choice. The latest model is much more powerful then any previous Electrolux upright, and its a tried and true design that's been around for more then 20+ years. The commercial version, the ProLux, has been used by many large retail chains like CVS and RadioShak for year and both commercial and domestic units can stand up to years of hard use. The domestic model also comes with a 10 warranty.

The machine is a pretty straight forward design that's very easy to use, and it has two motors which allows the brush roll to be shut off when cleaning bare floors. As for the attachments, they are not stored on-board but they are all stored in a nice sturdy caddy which doesn't take up much room. It could even by hung from a large hook mounted inside a closet so it doesn't take up any floor space. The attachments that come with the upright are nearly the same as those that have been offered with Electrolux canisters for decades. The hose that comes with the machine is also electrified and a small electric power head is included as well, which is great for cleaning upholstery and bedding. I don't know of any other upright on the market that has an electric hose, only straight suction with air powered tools. The hose insert directly into the top of the machine, no bending or fussing is necessary and it really couldn't be any easier to set up. While some find the lack of on-board attachments to be a bother, I happen to prefer not having them on the machine. It usually makes the machine lighter and easier to maneuver around furniture since they aren't as bulky. I also like how all the attachments are neatly stored in their own caddy. If you use a vacuum to dust or do above the floor cleaning then the Lux is an excellent choice because of the hose length and where it is positioned on the machine.

The Lux is in the same price range and the TOL Miele S7 machines but they are user friendly and will last a very long time. The bags aren't huge but they are very inexpensive compared to some high filtration bags and the machine also has a standard HEPA filter. Check out the Aerus if you can, I think you will like it. I'm in north shore Long Island and we still have several dealers that aren't that far away, so I'm sure you will be able to find a few dealers in the city.

Best of luck!
~Steven
 
Regarding the Aerus Lux's

Bimmer 740 & KirbyLux77,

I have the Aerus Guardian Upright for over a year now. Its a great machine, grooms extremely well and very easy to maneuver. The tool accessory kit does have the electrified hose and other attachments which are quality, however after having this vacuum, connecting and disconnecting the attachments are starting to become annoying, especially when you have to hit the bathroom floor or above ceiling quickly. I feel this vacuum is better suited for an environment with lots of wall to wall carpeting and very little need or use for the tool set. Also, I have noticed there is some air that escapes at the bottom of the machine that is prior to the HEPA filter on the side of the machine. This is not a sealed machine then.

The Aerus or Electrolux canisters, some have this problem as well, air escaping from the cord winder hole or the handle. I feel the build and filtration quality suffers in some areas, even though its a solid performer.

Next time around, I really would put my dime on the Miele S7, Sebo Felix or maybe a Riccar Brilliance in the Uprights (or) for canisters, Miele Callisto, Sebo D4 or the new Aerus Platinum Canister, which is new for 2013, but very expensive and overpriced, however, the build quality is much better than the all white Aerus line up. 2007-2012 models.

My recommendations:

Upright= Sebo Felix, Miele S7 Salsa.
Canister= Miele Callisto, Sebo D4
High Roller= Aerus Platinum Canister / Miele S8 Uniq
Mid Range= Kenmore Intuition Upright/Panasonic Canister
Budget= Hoover Wind Tunnel
Commercial= Oreck Upright/Pro Team
 
This is one great thread. Thanks to all for playing, lol. Hopefully others have gotten a lot out of it. I know I have. I have just been outbid for the Moxie. I am scared about the lack of warranty, even though this is the new unit with the new cirrcut board in the handle. I don't know what the winning bid will be but it's up to 227 plus shipping. The owner of the store and I have emailed back and forth and he sure seems legit and I'd pay in paypal, so I guess I wouldn't worry about it not being what he says it is. He says he buys 12 at a time and then sells the demo's on Ebay.

How many of you have bought demo's on Ebay where you won't have a warranty? How has it worked out? I will be looking strongly at the miele earth, Sebo D4 white (not sure on the power head as there is a choice) and the Moxie or Gusto depending on if I can get a good deal on someone's store demo. Last week there was a demo and I think he said 599, although I'd want it for a bit less based on some info I've gotten on this thread and from some others.
 
GM1982

I'm surprised to hear about air leaking from around the HEPA filter. I know air escapes from the handle area of my 6500 but I don't believe Electrolux had ever claimed it was a totally sealed system and as I'm sure you know the current model still doesn't have a HEPA filter.

As for using the tools with the Lux upright, I guess that really comes down to a personal preference. I have had the Discovery II, Epic 3500, and Aerus Lux 3000 in the past, probably for a total of more then 10 years and I didn't find it a problem to use the tools, but that is all dependent on the user, and of course it certainly wasn't my sole vacuum.

The Miele S7 sounds like a fabulous machine. I haven't used one yet but I've had 3 Miele canisters in the past and they were terrific machines. All were quiet, very powerful, and well made. I really liked my Blue Moon and its large bag as well as the power nozzle that had the metal bottom (224?) which cleaned my wool area rug better then the 236 pn. The 236 however was amazing on every other type of carpeting that I have and worked well for quick bare floor cleaning. It was quite heavy which I think helps it really dig into the carpet. I've heard some complaints about the handle being heavy and there was a thread on this forum a few years ago where 2 members had a problem with the S7 hose. I have yet to use a Sebo Felix. The Felix looks like a nice machine and since it came out many forum members have given it a favorable review. I just can't imagine using it for extensive above the floor cleaning since it seems bulky and the standard hose is short. However the option to remove to power nozzle and use the parquet tool is very appealing.
 
.... Yes the Sebo Felix does have a short hose, hence the S7 is more practical for some because the hose is very long and comes with a wand. The Aerus Guardian Upright that I have (white) has a HEPA filter and its sealed to the side of the machine, but air does escape at the bottom of the unit, near the duct. I mean for $700, there are better options. Ex: Miele S7 or Riccar Brilliance. I think Aerus could incorporate some sort of tool system to their uprights and add LED headlight for this price point.
 
Simple

You want to reduce noise and dust but want a high end cleaner. Simple solution. Miele 7580. Superior hepa filtration, quiet, great carpet grooming, fantastic build quality. Should run you 700-800 bucks. Some of the best money you'll ever spend.
 
Thank you lunchbox ...

And the irony here ... nearly 200 replies later ... is that I'll likely end up right where I was when I first posted ... with the Miele upright.

After, of course, I do a few other test drives.

Unfortunately -- who are we kidding -- it's highly unlikely I'm going to go to the Bronx or Long Island to buy a vacuum (or even test one). If it's not sold in Manhattan, it'll probably be a "no".
 
Ok, here is my take and I am not saying it to piss anyone off, so jump on my case if u want to. .but all higher end vacuums suck well and if cared for will last a long time. To me what it comes down to is the above the floor tools and in my personal opinion is the Miele tools h are horrid especially that dinky dust brush. The old Electrolux now aerus are the best. The flip for brush is great fore bare floors and works great on area rugs too. The combo dust,fabric brush can't be beat anywhere.
 
Luxman107:

Yes, the Aerus dusting brush is a nice tool, I have it for my Guardian Upright. However, Miele does make a much larger dusting brush, bigger than the Aerus one, its quality. The accessories that come with any Miele, yeah they are small, however, the features, options, fit and finish on Miele for the price is still more attractive than any Aerus. You would have to jump up to the new Platinum canister for similar options of a Miele, but who is willing to pay $2,000 for the Platinum, which still won't have telescoping wands, just to get variable suction, quiet motor and hepa filtration. Aerus does not even have the Platinum on its website yet...they need to get out of the draconian direct sales mantra and market themselves better, or else they will not be able to compete with the rest of the Top Brands.
 
GM1982'
My lux dealer is selling the platinum to anyone off the steet for 1299. Got mine 2 months ago for less than that.
I agree with you 100 % on aerus marketing I don't know how they compete with the average consumer
 
Making Sense in Orilla

Rob,

Very nice breakdown on machines for these two potential consumers. You are spot-on actually with your observations and correct in your characterization of Sebo as better than most. It is. Period. Of the canisters discussed here, both it and the Filter Queen will stand up to use in a commercial setting as well.

As for Simplicity/Riccar, The Moxie and Gusto, formerly 1700P/S36 and 1800/S38 were developed jointly between Tacony and Daewoo of South Korea and the power nozzle by Cen-Tec . Development cost for the project was around one million US and they were built there until the move to St J, MO. The new hose and circuit board were replaced by a Plastiflex model. I am not sure there were or are chinese sourced motors in those units as they are the same Daewoo components. Anyone had or willing to tear one apart? These particular models now are extremely reliable. I just spoke at length with Tom G. just before the Christmas holiday.

Brian
 
"Aerus ... they need to get out of the draconian direct sales mantra and market themselves better, or else they will not be able to compete with the rest of the Top Brands."

Indeed.

The world has changed since 1963.

A very big reason why Miele is outselling brands like Electrolux and Kirby is that it's just so damn hard to even FIND those brands anywhere.
 
GM1982

George,


Never thought of my Lux Guardian Platinum as being a "high roller" lol! I spoke at length with the President of Aerus this past week about my new machine and what I like, love and feel needs improvement. I do think there will be some changes down the road. He was very interested in what my experiences were with the machine and what I actually thought compared to the focus groups. The development of the machine itself took 6 years and was split between them and partner Lux International AG. I think the wands. p/n etc remain unchanged as they see how the unit will sell in the North American marketplace. I use the 48011 Lux HPO roller assy. from the lux 9000 and it is stiffer than the double helix it came with. I like the way it vibrates the carpet and pulls itself along better. The double helix roller grooms better though. The quality of this machine is also wayyyy better than the Guardian Ultra. It looks like I'm going back to work for Lux.


This would be an excellent unit for NYCWRITER.


Brian
 

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