detroitdirtbag
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Here, I should have posted it.
Electrolux model F
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Came out nice!
That looks very nice. If you have another canister vacuum that uses the standard 1 1/4” wands you can use the extra rug and floor tool with it if you like this tool. This is one of my all time favorite tools because it works so nicely and is durable and scratch free for hard floors and also works on rugs too nicely all in one so I have kept extras to use on other vacs that I acquired without such tools or that had tools that were not nearly as nice as these are. Heck, you may come across an Electrolux in the future you get free and need one to go with it!
Did you notice that the gleaner bar is different on the two? Yours has the option to switch it on and off and the grooves are quite aggressive to pull up hair and fuzz and even lift nap while it was redesigned on the teal one to be a different type of smoother groove that would work for all types of carpets and not get stuck on loop carpet so they eliminated the switching capability. During the teal color run they also eventually eliminated the thumb switch groove altogether. On the more recent models which are currently made, they have changed the gleaner bar to be nothing but a smooth metal bar, nearly identical to yours when it is “off” but yet the raised printing in the suction groove that says “Gleaner bar” with an arrow pointing to it is still there. (This raised printing was added in the mid 80’s). I’m sort of disappointed Aerus/Electrolux has made it all smooth, the generation just before it seemed to do some good to get up per hair and some stuck in fuzz, but I guess they figure people will use the power attachments for this type of cleaning. Seems odd to me that they downgraded this tool twice over time. I can see if it was getting stuck on loop carpet they would need something that would do the job on loop carpet so redesigning seemed logical. But complete elimination down to the smooth bar as current seems like a total downgrade.
Only the top of the line Lux platinum includes the tool now anyway, I think it is optional on the lower models Lux legacy and Lux Classic. Those include just a single sided floor brush tool that came over from the lexan models from Canada Electrolux when the two merged in the mid 80s.
Jon
That looks very nice. If you have another canister vacuum that uses the standard 1 1/4” wands you can use the extra rug and floor tool with it if you like this tool. This is one of my all time favorite tools because it works so nicely and is durable and scratch free for hard floors and also works on rugs too nicely all in one so I have kept extras to use on other vacs that I acquired without such tools or that had tools that were not nearly as nice as these are. Heck, you may come across an Electrolux in the future you get free and need one to go with it!
Did you notice that the gleaner bar is different on the two? Yours has the option to switch it on and off and the grooves are quite aggressive to pull up hair and fuzz and even lift nap while it was redesigned on the teal one to be a different type of smoother groove that would work for all types of carpets and not get stuck on loop carpet so they eliminated the switching capability. During the teal color run they also eventually eliminated the thumb switch groove altogether. On the more recent models which are currently made, they have changed the gleaner bar to be nothing but a smooth metal bar, nearly identical to yours when it is “off” but yet the raised printing in the suction groove that says “Gleaner bar” with an arrow pointing to it is still there. (This raised printing was added in the mid 80’s). I’m sort of disappointed Aerus/Electrolux has made it all smooth, the generation just before it seemed to do some good to get up per hair and some stuck in fuzz, but I guess they figure people will use the power attachments for this type of cleaning. Seems odd to me that they downgraded this tool twice over time. I can see if it was getting stuck on loop carpet they would need something that would do the job on loop carpet so redesigning seemed logical. But complete elimination down to the smooth bar as current seems like a total downgrade.
Only the top of the line Lux platinum includes the tool now anyway, I think it is optional on the lower models Lux legacy and Lux Classic. Those include just a single sided floor brush tool that came over from the lexan models from Canada Electrolux when the two merged in the mid 80s.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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Yes, I thought it was strange on the teal One it’s blank on the end, but still has the cut out area.
My moms had it, but it was a combo of later stuff since it broke.
I still have to replace the plastic rocker switch, but it works, so I’ll do that later.
My moms had it, but it was a combo of later stuff since it broke.
I still have to replace the plastic rocker switch, but it works, so I’ll do that later.
If I see one....
If I see one of those rocker switch covers on eBay I’ll be sure to let you know. The main switch body on my model G is identical and it sometimes doesn’t work and causes the vac to flicker on then off or not come on at all. Might be why someone gave it away and left it at the free stuff shed at the town trash and recycle station. Problem is intermittent. The switch unit itself is pretty simple and I can’t see what could go wrong aside from the spring breaking and that’s not it for sure but I have yet to take it out and examine it closely. It may just need a thorough cleaning. Apparently the switching unit is no longer made by Aerus/Electrolux so getting one is not as easy but an aftermarket company make be making a replacement which could be available at a generic vacuum cleaner repair shop.
How did those dents get in the side of the main body? Is there a story to go along with it? I remember my Mom’s model L tumbling down the stairs at one time when cleaning the stairs and that put a dent in hers. Kinda frustrating and it was back in the 70s when that happened as it was the main vacuum for the 2 story 4 bedroom 2 living and dining area house and was used weekly like clockwork. She still has it but it resides as the upstairs vac which is only 2 bedrooms and a bathroom for their vacation home that is only used primarily 3 months out of the year during the summer months.
Anyway it’s rare to find thIs series of metal units with no dents or scratches since they were prone to tipping onto their side. The model G’s are more common to not be dented because the back end was thick aluminum and the sides had thick rubber bumpers that ran down the entire length of the machine. I actually glued some model G teal bumpers to my Mom’s unit so as to avoid more dents. I think I did that in the late 80’s and they are still on there.
Oh by the way, did you know you can store the crevice tool on the vac too? While it’s kind of odd the narrow end will fit into the dusting brush end and stick up at an angle...also I sometimes store it by threading the narrow end into the handle. These options keep it “on board” and handy while cleaning. I’ve tried storing attachments on the cord clip at the back of the switch but often they fall off there. The cord clip is convenient for when there’s no cordwinder, just the halo, to either keep the end of the cord in place after winding it up or if one only needs a shorter length of cord just what is needed can be unwound and clipped to the clip so the rest stays firmly on the halo. I do wish they had built in a specific clip for the crevice tool...that would have made this series even better. The brush clip can hold it if it hasn’t gotten bent upwards but often they do somewhat from people pulling upward with their brush than just sliding it forward to remove it. It can be bent back by unscrewing it and bending it downward some then putting it back on and it will hold the crevice tool more firmly. But at least the clip is there to hold the multi use combination dusting brush/upholstery tool.
Jon
If I see one of those rocker switch covers on eBay I’ll be sure to let you know. The main switch body on my model G is identical and it sometimes doesn’t work and causes the vac to flicker on then off or not come on at all. Might be why someone gave it away and left it at the free stuff shed at the town trash and recycle station. Problem is intermittent. The switch unit itself is pretty simple and I can’t see what could go wrong aside from the spring breaking and that’s not it for sure but I have yet to take it out and examine it closely. It may just need a thorough cleaning. Apparently the switching unit is no longer made by Aerus/Electrolux so getting one is not as easy but an aftermarket company make be making a replacement which could be available at a generic vacuum cleaner repair shop.
How did those dents get in the side of the main body? Is there a story to go along with it? I remember my Mom’s model L tumbling down the stairs at one time when cleaning the stairs and that put a dent in hers. Kinda frustrating and it was back in the 70s when that happened as it was the main vacuum for the 2 story 4 bedroom 2 living and dining area house and was used weekly like clockwork. She still has it but it resides as the upstairs vac which is only 2 bedrooms and a bathroom for their vacation home that is only used primarily 3 months out of the year during the summer months.
Anyway it’s rare to find thIs series of metal units with no dents or scratches since they were prone to tipping onto their side. The model G’s are more common to not be dented because the back end was thick aluminum and the sides had thick rubber bumpers that ran down the entire length of the machine. I actually glued some model G teal bumpers to my Mom’s unit so as to avoid more dents. I think I did that in the late 80’s and they are still on there.
Oh by the way, did you know you can store the crevice tool on the vac too? While it’s kind of odd the narrow end will fit into the dusting brush end and stick up at an angle...also I sometimes store it by threading the narrow end into the handle. These options keep it “on board” and handy while cleaning. I’ve tried storing attachments on the cord clip at the back of the switch but often they fall off there. The cord clip is convenient for when there’s no cordwinder, just the halo, to either keep the end of the cord in place after winding it up or if one only needs a shorter length of cord just what is needed can be unwound and clipped to the clip so the rest stays firmly on the halo. I do wish they had built in a specific clip for the crevice tool...that would have made this series even better. The brush clip can hold it if it hasn’t gotten bent upwards but often they do somewhat from people pulling upward with their brush than just sliding it forward to remove it. It can be bent back by unscrewing it and bending it downward some then putting it back on and it will hold the crevice tool more firmly. But at least the clip is there to hold the multi use combination dusting brush/upholstery tool.
Jon
Hose
This model F has the original hose on eBay. Also a cordwinder with the swing open back louver! Seems they’ve put a cloth bag in and didn’t realize you have to remove the bags gasket to get the door to stay shut and have it taped. Bet it won’t sell and you could pick it up cheap as they have a best offer option! They mis named it. That’s the cordwinder model not the machine model.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-El...600980?hash=item3431ab2c54:g:aSwAAOSwuwdfb6M0
This model F has the original hose on eBay. Also a cordwinder with the swing open back louver! Seems they’ve put a cloth bag in and didn’t realize you have to remove the bags gasket to get the door to stay shut and have it taped. Bet it won’t sell and you could pick it up cheap as they have a best offer option! They mis named it. That’s the cordwinder model not the machine model.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-El...600980?hash=item3431ab2c54:g:aSwAAOSwuwdfb6M0
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detroitdirtbag
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Dang, if I didn’t just buy the reminder I’d snag that. I jumped too fast, It has the mill finish tubes, I needed 1 of those. Funny, it doesn’t have the front 2 rubber bumpers. And the vent is teal.
The cord winder from terry is cleaner looking. I’d lov3 to have that hose though
The cord winder from terry is cleaner looking. I’d lov3 to have that hose though
detroitdirtbag
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The dents were prob from me loosing it down the stairs many times. Mom used to yell. Lol
Before both staircases were carpet they were hard on the vac. Plus she stood it up in the hall closet, it fell over constantly. I’m surprised it’s not more beat up. In the end, the dementia set in, a lot of things she tossed without me knowing. She had a green upright vac, one day it was just gone. She threw it out.
Before both staircases were carpet they were hard on the vac. Plus she stood it up in the hall closet, it fell over constantly. I’m surprised it’s not more beat up. In the end, the dementia set in, a lot of things she tossed without me knowing. She had a green upright vac, one day it was just gone. She threw it out.
Glad she didn’t toss the Electrolux
Likely because it was easy to push. As people get older they lose their muscle tone and find using the Electrolux or a canister quite easy compared to uprights. Especially without the power nozzle. It happened to my friend friend who passed at 94...in her later years she didn’t clean the house herself but in her 60s and 70s if she had to vacuum (I mostly did it) she didn’t like using the power nozzle because it was easier just to use the rug and floor tool. My Mom is now 83 and has arthritis in her right hand and wrist and she is starting to not use the power nozzle every time she vacuums. I got her a eureka quick up stick vac with power brush and it’s very light and she uses that a lot so she only has to go around with the Electrolux every two weeks. I told her it won’t deep clean like the Electrolux and she agreed and says she still does use the Electrolux because since we got her the new rubber hoses it’s much easier to handle too she said but she likes to use the Quick up frequently.
Sorry your Mom ended up with Dementia, my Grandmother ended up with that too. They called it senility back then but it was very unfortunate. I was young at the time, just 11 and she died just before I hit 14. There was one time when she did recognize my Mother when we arrived for a visit and it was very surprising as it had been quite a while since she knew who anyone was except my Aunt who lived with her. My only hope was that she was not lonely during those years and I think because the mind was going she was living in this world of when she was much, much younger as she would talk about her husband coming home soon who actually had died when my Mother was just 3. Fortunately, she lived in the house she and my Grandfather built at a young age until nearly the end of her life so going through the senility in her house that she lived in at that young age made living there not an issue. Her daughter, my Aunt, never married and always lived with her so that I’m sure made it easy for her but undoubtedly was difficult for my Aunt.
At the early onset of it I do remember my Grandmother using the Electrolux and she would flip the rug and floor tool over but incorrectly, not removing it but instead spinning it over and the suction was at the top when she was doing the hardwood but it was ok, she also would go over the hardwood with a dust mop. She didn’t have a lot to do so she cleaned a lot and had worked In her early years cleaning for people. In the later years of the dementia you could give her an entire basket of laundry and she would be delighted to sit and fold it, or give her a dust rag and she would go around and dust everything sometimes more than once if you didn’t take it away from her once the laundry was folded or everything was dusted. Cleaning her house was something that she could do at her own pace and kept her busy during the dementia years and my Aunt just kept the toxic cleaning stuff out of the house. Unfortunately she would cut the wires for the stereo speakers with scissors to “clean that up” and that was funny. She liked everything orderly and neat and didn’t keep a lot of things around.
Yup, I notice many F’s some with and some without the bumpers. I wish my current one had them but it does not.
Yeah this would have satisfied most all of your needs except for the bumpers and the rug and floor tool.
I have a turbotool rug washer in the gray and tan coloring, it has a teal tank cap and a teal string hook for the dispenser plunger. I’ll take a pic and post it later. I forget that it’s in the match F colors. I found it sitting on someone’s trash one day she I was walking home from school when I was in the 4th grade. It was a half day as I think it was just before a holiday and for some reason I decided to walk home the other more difficult route and trash had not been collected yet as it was midday. I thought it was quite interesting and had never seen one ever so of course, it came home with me. I’m not quite sure when I brought it from NJ to TX. I must have put it in a suitcase and checked it on the plane but I have no recollection of that whatsoever! The design is similar to the cordwinder on the top.
Jon
Likely because it was easy to push. As people get older they lose their muscle tone and find using the Electrolux or a canister quite easy compared to uprights. Especially without the power nozzle. It happened to my friend friend who passed at 94...in her later years she didn’t clean the house herself but in her 60s and 70s if she had to vacuum (I mostly did it) she didn’t like using the power nozzle because it was easier just to use the rug and floor tool. My Mom is now 83 and has arthritis in her right hand and wrist and she is starting to not use the power nozzle every time she vacuums. I got her a eureka quick up stick vac with power brush and it’s very light and she uses that a lot so she only has to go around with the Electrolux every two weeks. I told her it won’t deep clean like the Electrolux and she agreed and says she still does use the Electrolux because since we got her the new rubber hoses it’s much easier to handle too she said but she likes to use the Quick up frequently.
Sorry your Mom ended up with Dementia, my Grandmother ended up with that too. They called it senility back then but it was very unfortunate. I was young at the time, just 11 and she died just before I hit 14. There was one time when she did recognize my Mother when we arrived for a visit and it was very surprising as it had been quite a while since she knew who anyone was except my Aunt who lived with her. My only hope was that she was not lonely during those years and I think because the mind was going she was living in this world of when she was much, much younger as she would talk about her husband coming home soon who actually had died when my Mother was just 3. Fortunately, she lived in the house she and my Grandfather built at a young age until nearly the end of her life so going through the senility in her house that she lived in at that young age made living there not an issue. Her daughter, my Aunt, never married and always lived with her so that I’m sure made it easy for her but undoubtedly was difficult for my Aunt.
At the early onset of it I do remember my Grandmother using the Electrolux and she would flip the rug and floor tool over but incorrectly, not removing it but instead spinning it over and the suction was at the top when she was doing the hardwood but it was ok, she also would go over the hardwood with a dust mop. She didn’t have a lot to do so she cleaned a lot and had worked In her early years cleaning for people. In the later years of the dementia you could give her an entire basket of laundry and she would be delighted to sit and fold it, or give her a dust rag and she would go around and dust everything sometimes more than once if you didn’t take it away from her once the laundry was folded or everything was dusted. Cleaning her house was something that she could do at her own pace and kept her busy during the dementia years and my Aunt just kept the toxic cleaning stuff out of the house. Unfortunately she would cut the wires for the stereo speakers with scissors to “clean that up” and that was funny. She liked everything orderly and neat and didn’t keep a lot of things around.
Yup, I notice many F’s some with and some without the bumpers. I wish my current one had them but it does not.
Yeah this would have satisfied most all of your needs except for the bumpers and the rug and floor tool.
I have a turbotool rug washer in the gray and tan coloring, it has a teal tank cap and a teal string hook for the dispenser plunger. I’ll take a pic and post it later. I forget that it’s in the match F colors. I found it sitting on someone’s trash one day she I was walking home from school when I was in the 4th grade. It was a half day as I think it was just before a holiday and for some reason I decided to walk home the other more difficult route and trash had not been collected yet as it was midday. I thought it was quite interesting and had never seen one ever so of course, it came home with me. I’m not quite sure when I brought it from NJ to TX. I must have put it in a suitcase and checked it on the plane but I have no recollection of that whatsoever! The design is similar to the cordwinder on the top.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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Looking at the metal pc in the floor brushes, the metal part looks always lighter shade that the plastic parts.
Terry said no matter what condition of an original hose, it won’t be any good to use, anyone still have luck with a orig hose?
Terry said no matter what condition of an original hose, it won’t be any good to use, anyone still have luck with a orig hose?
Usually no but...
On rare occasions they may be good but usually have some leakage near the handle and machine end as those get bent and flexed to the extreme the most. The braided hoses were discontinued in the late 90s I believe and I think there was a transition period where Electrolux was making both. With that in mind and considering this is 2020, any braided hose will be 20 or more years old. Usually they crapped out somewhere between 10 and 15 to 20 years of age.
Mine that was purchased in 83 or 84 and used only a handful of times on my XXX. it is crumbling on the inner layer despite it looking virtually new and that’s a bummer and frustrating because my Aunt paid a lot of money for it just before she passed away. Then the vac was stored carefully in a box making sure the ends were not creased over at all but the inner material has just dried out and bits get sucked into the bag if I use it which is rarely. I do have one from a 1953 Model E that is fabric wrapped, it is different on the inner layer and surprisingly leaks only slightly by the handle but the inner diameter is smaller so it seems to reduce the suction power more than that newer one or the flexible rubber or plastic ones.
So I would say expect some leakage from a braided hose for sure and the amount will vary...just depends on how much it has deteriorated and been used. I think storage environment may have affected this too. Too dry and the rubber dries out faster. Last Christmas I discovered the braided hose for my parents basement Electrolux was leaking pretty bad so I had to just wrap the whole thing with duct tape so the machine would be effective when used. I’ll likely bring them a plastic or rubber one to replace it if I can ever get to visit them again with this pandemic.
While the braided ones are retro and pretty, a rubber hose is a true upgrade for functional reliable performance because anytime you put the cleaner under strain, a leaking hose will not have the suction power to pull the deeper down dirt up. Kinda like leaving the suction control on the handle opened, when it’s under strain at the hose end it defaults to sucking through the suction control valve and this is what happens with a leaking hose.
I’ve experienced some that are so bad you can literally feel the air being pulled in through the braided outer layer when the hose end is covered and the tone of the motor doesn’t change much.
On rare occasions they may be good but usually have some leakage near the handle and machine end as those get bent and flexed to the extreme the most. The braided hoses were discontinued in the late 90s I believe and I think there was a transition period where Electrolux was making both. With that in mind and considering this is 2020, any braided hose will be 20 or more years old. Usually they crapped out somewhere between 10 and 15 to 20 years of age.
Mine that was purchased in 83 or 84 and used only a handful of times on my XXX. it is crumbling on the inner layer despite it looking virtually new and that’s a bummer and frustrating because my Aunt paid a lot of money for it just before she passed away. Then the vac was stored carefully in a box making sure the ends were not creased over at all but the inner material has just dried out and bits get sucked into the bag if I use it which is rarely. I do have one from a 1953 Model E that is fabric wrapped, it is different on the inner layer and surprisingly leaks only slightly by the handle but the inner diameter is smaller so it seems to reduce the suction power more than that newer one or the flexible rubber or plastic ones.
So I would say expect some leakage from a braided hose for sure and the amount will vary...just depends on how much it has deteriorated and been used. I think storage environment may have affected this too. Too dry and the rubber dries out faster. Last Christmas I discovered the braided hose for my parents basement Electrolux was leaking pretty bad so I had to just wrap the whole thing with duct tape so the machine would be effective when used. I’ll likely bring them a plastic or rubber one to replace it if I can ever get to visit them again with this pandemic.
While the braided ones are retro and pretty, a rubber hose is a true upgrade for functional reliable performance because anytime you put the cleaner under strain, a leaking hose will not have the suction power to pull the deeper down dirt up. Kinda like leaving the suction control on the handle opened, when it’s under strain at the hose end it defaults to sucking through the suction control valve and this is what happens with a leaking hose.
I’ve experienced some that are so bad you can literally feel the air being pulled in through the braided outer layer when the hose end is covered and the tone of the motor doesn’t change much.
detroitdirtbag
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Today was a day for wrong vac parts, I had a rocker switch coming also for the F, it showed up in tan. Not gray. Did the F’s have tan also, or is this from a diff model?
It’s perfect though, I just may have to use it, my OG one has a pc broke off on one side
It’s perfect though, I just may have to use it, my OG one has a pc broke off on one side
That is from a bronze G
The tan would be from a bronze G or a rebuilt AE, AF, or G. Where Electrolux chose the tan color scheme for those parts. All 3 of those models use that switch and rocker cover. It will work though for you.
Jon
The tan would be from a bronze G or a rebuilt AE, AF, or G. Where Electrolux chose the tan color scheme for those parts. All 3 of those models use that switch and rocker cover. It will work though for you.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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Looking at the lineup in electro137’s post on speaking of F’s, one F, has the tan switch. Was this Orig or a replacement?
dysonman1
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The hose in the eBay listing is not a genuine Electrolux hose. It's a replacement hose with an incorrect handle end.
detroitdirtbag
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I almost bought this one. It sold fast. I don’t think it was correct.
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That clearly is not the correct hose -- wrong striping and plastic pistol-grip handle.
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That clearly is not the correct hose -- wrong striping and plastic pistol-grip handle.
detroitdirtbag
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Well, one of these days I’ll come across a correct new hose fir it. Half the fun of a hobby is looking for parts.
Yes don’t be hasty
Don’t be hasty and quick to buy if it’s not correct or in poor shape, one that you really want will come along...may take months or a year or so if checking eBay every day to finally find it. Don’t get discouraged either. I’ve had luck at finding just what I want in great shape for hoses with lots of persistence and patience and time. These items are rare but do come up considering how many were sold and still out there and get out on eBay instead of thrown out or sent off to a thrift store.
Jon
Don’t be hasty and quick to buy if it’s not correct or in poor shape, one that you really want will come along...may take months or a year or so if checking eBay every day to finally find it. Don’t get discouraged either. I’ve had luck at finding just what I want in great shape for hoses with lots of persistence and patience and time. These items are rare but do come up considering how many were sold and still out there and get out on eBay instead of thrown out or sent off to a thrift store.
Jon
