Electrolux model F

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That’s a beautiful teal and tan rug and floor tool, hard to find those in that combination of colors in that good of condition, usually they are well worn and the bumper corners are well rounded from wear like your original.

The dusting brush/upholstery tool is original and matching colors...nice...the crevice tool looks like it’s a 1974-1982 series cream colored and has the new Electrolux logo I mentioned started in the late 60’s but not with this coloring until 1974.

You are familiar with how the dusting brush works, right? The wings flip out and you can put the hose into the bristle end and I now it’s an upholstery tool and can even contour to rounded arms on wing chairs and couches and even bolster pillows! This and the flip over rug and floor tool are by far my most favorite tools of all vacuum cleaner brand tools. So convenient...4 tools in 2! The wings are replaceable if they ever break, but I try to be careful as I did break one one time back in the Late 80’s or early 90’s When I dropped the hose with it on and it hit the floor. An Electrolux man showed me how...you run the base under hot tap water to warm the rubber and then you can bend it to open it to release the wing hinge. He had spares from used ones and gave us a used one to replace the one broken wing!

Electrolux designed the entire machine to have replaceable parts and is completely serviceable...and while now Aerus has discontinued some of the parts, if you can get a part somehow, it can be replaced.

Jon
 
I was thinking we always had the crevasse tool, maybe the orig hose end was wore on an angle, when the hose was replaced she bought that then, I know I always got yelled at when not putting the tool on. Lol
 
Doe the manual show a crevice tool included? I know my Mom’s model S made at the same time did not include one. It was an extra purchase item. Your Mom may have bought one but the early ones were hard breakable plastic,
Erhaps it broke and she got this new one. Anyway, good that you have one! The generic replacement hose you have seems even more recent than the crevice tool and would not have been purchased from Aerus Electrolux....maybe the second hose wore out and she got this one on line or at a general vacuum store. General vacuum stores do not stock new genuine parts, only used stuff as they do not have access to them.

Jon
 
I don't......

want to get into a member Battle Royal(pun intended) but.......

In one room that is carpeted sat something heavy that smashed the pile down. I've hit that spot with my Royal, my Hoover Convertible and the PN for the Diamond Jubilee.

Guess which one is the only vac that completely raises the pile back to normal(after many tests weeks apart)?

Kevin
 
That isnt a Electrolux hose? that’s strange, I remember when the OG hose wasn’t usable, could have went through 2 hoses, at some point Mr York passed away, (factory rep) that’s all possible then. At some point it was retired for an upright, we just used the F for the cars. Leaning her place out, I didn’t see an upright. Hmmmmm
 
The cloth bag you have in earlier photos and your profile photo is indeed an Electrolux. I have the same one. I think it just got put into an empty package from some generic DVC brand paper bags. Funny, I keep my cloth bag in an empty plastic bag from some generic paper bags too!

Your cloth bag fits a number of models..Automatic E, F, G, 1205 and most models since that take the c bag. Interestingly enough there is also a clear plastic cover for the top of the bag with a hole in the center for the suction port to help contain the dirt. I’ve seen these but never had one. I think they may have been for use with the later models such as the Golden jubilee and on. It really helps the dirt from dirtying up the inside of the bag door.

The cloth bags were used by salesman to demonstrate the dirt the vacuum would pick up in a customers home.

I remember once when staying at my Grandmother’s house the Electrolux man coming and he dumped the cloth bag half full of dirt on her nice formal living room chair. She got very angry with him and told him to “clean up that mess” and not to come in her house and make a mess like that, He showed her how the power nozzle head put right on the end of the hose without the wand would clean the chair beautifully. Even so, she still was not very happy with him and sent him on his way with no sale as she already had two Electrolux’s. Of course I was right there watching the whole demonstration. My Brother and Sister were there too and my Brother remembers this instance to this day as well.

I think he was demonstrating the model 1205, the power nozzle was a blue PN-1 I do remember that for sure. My Grandmother got sucked in to the Electrolux salesman’s tactics and changed her Electrolux’s more frequently than needed. She always had one upstairs and another downstairs, usually the lower level model upstairs. She did like to have things new and have the best and kept a very clean house so getting a new vacuum periodically didn’t seem all that unusual to her. On this visit though, she did not buy the machine and sent him on his way. I think my Aunt who lived with my Grandmother allowed him to come in more for entertainment for us kids and especially me because she knew I liked to play with the Electrolux a lot. Our parents were away on a vacation or an out of state wedding I think and us kids were staying at Grandma's for the week so keeping us kids preoccupied was somewhat of a challenge.
 
Your rite, I meant the plastic bag wasn’t factory. Lol
Every time she took it in for repair, he tried to sell her a new vac. And the loaner was a newer unit.
I also have the sprayer and the vaporizer, still in boxes. I don’t remember her ever using them.
There are a few d3 to in the va, I’m wondering if my pointless dent guy could pop some of it out. I’ll ask him some time.
Looking forward for the winder to work. And having the bumpers on the front again, putting these on, do they just push in or do I need to take the front door apart?
 
The Elux..........

salesmen were not always predators. I know of at least two that serviced their customers for over 30yrs......were never pushy and fixed their machines for pennies, if needed.

My mother-in-in-law was one of those customers. She lived in the same house for 45yrs and the Elux salesman was the same until he retired. She gave us an old G that she had(she had something newer).

Then she was instrumental in having the Elux salesperson come to our first farm over on the rainy side of WA. We bought a new Diamond Jubilee for a ridiculous amount of money.

Many yrs later we divorced;the ex got the Diamond J and I got the old G. Her cleaning lady absolutely destroyed the Diamond J. It was like watching an ape run a vacuum. I still have the G, but I transplanted its motor into a newer tank body. That was the strongest G motor I ever saw....must have been a story there but people pass on and provenance tales are lost.

Kevin
 
I got the other flip brush today in the mail, I would have never bought it, a day after 1 ordered it my orig one just fell apart, when I took it apart to clean, the screws broke off the plastic. This one is complete. If someone needs a teal one w/ tan rubber, it’s pretty nice. It has the elbow part too.
 
My vac does not have the power port. I’m not going to add it, here’s with the parts I got so far, cord reel is out getting rebuilt and a rocker switch and a bumper is coming as well. It does work well as it is now.
Are the real Electrolux bags better than the repop?

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I like...

Genuine Electrolux 4 ply bags...some were 3 or 2 ply and the new Aerus home solutions 2 ply bags in blue are supposed to be better Aerus says as the paper is supposed to be a better filtration media but some here have debated about that and I have some that I recently acquired at a thrift store last year but haven’t tried them yet. The “Multi filter” brand and “air plus” brand generics are 4 ply and are pretty good too but the top cardboard panel tends to be a little thinner sometimes causing them to warp inward if in the vacuum for a long period of time or run packing them heavily with dirt. The generics have come a long way and the 4 ply generics sold these days should do a fine job.

I bought 54 3 packs of generics years ago from the dollar store, thought it was a good buy at 33cents per bag basically....the plastic bag says they are 4 ply but some were not the multi filter brand 4 ply ones and turned out to have no printing on them at all and are 2 ply so I was not too happy about getting something different than what the packages says on the outside. They were sold by Home Care products and have the big “vac bags” labeling on the outside. I really should call Home Care products and make them send me replacements since they put something different in the package than what was advertised. There’s some wording about a satisfaction guarantee on the back of the package. But I think I have to send them the bags at my cost for replacement and kinda not worth it. It was odd, about half the packages have the nice 4 ply multi filter bags and about half have the cheaper thinner bags. I suddenly noticed when I went to open a new package and thought ..gee this package seems not as thick as the other and opened the thicker package as well to reveal different bags. Maybe this is why the lot was sold off to the dollar tree, perhaps Home Care Products discovered their vendor for the bags was not putting the right bags in all the packages. Even so, regardless of where I buy them, they should still honor the satisfaction guarantee. I chose to buy so many because I was running my remodeling business at the time and using the Electrolux a lot and going through lots of bags so I figured I’d stock up since they were less pricey at the dollar store. A three pack for a buck! Not bad I thought. I bought those over 10 years ago and have used about half of them...I think I bought too many!

On the 4 ply bags there is 3 inner layers of a soft tissue like fabric and this helps to filter the dirt and dust and avoid the pores of the outer paper from clogging too quickly and therefore allowing the bag to hold more dirt before it cuts off suction. I believe this was patented by Electrolux long ago and then when the patent ran out, the generic companies began copying the feature as this used to be a big point Electrolux made as to why their bags were “the best bag for your Electrolux cleaner.”

Trapping as much dirt as you can helps keep the motor from getting dirt in it as well as fine bits getting sent back out in the air.

Personally for the units I use in my house I use the Genuine Electrolux 4 ply bags...for the one I use for the “shop vac” type jobs to clean the car, garage and remodeling dirty jobs, I use the generics.

I’m not sure if the older genuine yellow bags From the 60s and 70s are 3, ply but I discovered some of the mid 80s bags in gray are only 3 ply and then they changed to 4 ply sometime in that color era. Probably the 3 ply patent ran out so they upped the quality to 4 ply and got a new patent to still have the edge over generic copied bags. The tan genuine Electrolux bags with Tan cardboard colored tops were all 4 ply. I have a bunch of genuine bags from most of these eras mentioned and I should probably cut one of each open to determine how many plies they are. I know some of the genuine packaging says how many plies they are in that package. A genuine package of the yellow “lightning bolt bags” doesn’t specify but does show a graphic of a difference and the graphic depicts 3 total plies.

Really old generic bags from the 50s and early 60s were just single ply or 2 ply and some didn’t have the rubber seal either, I definitely do not recommend using those at all.

Some have found fabric cloth type disposable bags with micro filtration by a generic manufacturer..I’ve never tried them and am sure they are not cheap.

Bags should never be emptied and reused..the paper takes a beating especially when trying to get the dirt out and then could split or rip when reusing it allowing dirt to get into the motor. I’ve had genuine bags split at the corner edge seams because they were older...fortunately the inner layers didn’t rip and held the dirt in but old paper bags can split just from age as the paper begins to break down just from sitting around for many years so I don’t recommend buying “vintage” genuine bags. I’ve had this issue with some of the older yellow genuine bags I picked up at an estate sale or bought off eBay. Those yellow bags are from 1982 on back. That’s almost 40 years or more!

Jon
 
Here’s what I bought, it says 4 ply, it was from a Vac store locally, I try to help local businesses since all what’s been going on, they actually said they would look at fixing the switch but I have a new rocker coming. I went there to get 1 alum tube wand , but only had the new steel ones that are chromed and no vintage parts at all. They have been helpful, I have a bag less Bissell upright, the power switch broke, they had a generic one that was red not black, but it works on the vac. It was an easy fix.

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Here’s the cord reel. I hope it all works like new when I get it back. I sent him the rubber stop part off the original.
The bumper on the door, is that just a push in or does the door have to come apart to install it?

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Multiflilter 4-Ply Bags...

Those Multifilter brand 4-Ply bags are what I use in all my Electrolux machines, both canisters ('C' bags) and uprights ('U' bags). I buy them in bulk on eBay and can generally find 24 bags for about $15 with free shipping, which works out to a fraction over 62 cents a bag. I find they perform just as well as the genuine Electrolux/Aerus bags for a fraction of the price.
 
About the best generic bag you can get

Aside from the micro filter cloth bags, those are about the best generic paper bags you can get so they should do fine.

That’s a model 2 cordwinder. It looks a bit beaten up like someone dropped the vac tilted up from the front on the pavement. When you get it back you might want to paint it With a matching paint so that scratched area won’t rust.

The cordwinder should have a plastic ring around the hole where the cord comes out. When I’ve had to open any of these, I usually flip the ring around as it wears down on the top side from the cord being dragged along it when pulling the cord out. It’s best though not to pull the cord out in an upward direction, but rather straight out so neither the plastic ring nor the cord itself suffer damage.

In the meantime an extension cord with a correct straight oriented female end will likely plug into the back end of the switch to give you a cord to run the machine sans cordwinder. This machine uses the same standard cord as the AE, R, and L so if you want one of them, you can search eBay for one and also get a cord halo and then you’ll have both the non cordwinder setup as well as the cordwinder equipped setup which you can swap out if you like. The cordwinder will add a significant amount of weight to the machine and I added one to my Mother’s L and then some years later she complained the machine was heavy so I converted back to no cordwinder and she was happy again. The cordwinder really wasn’t something she was concerned about having as much as a nice light weight heavy duty vacuum cleaner, which the Model L was touted as per the advertising on our box which she stored the unit in for many years until the box finally became kinda tattered and she decided it fit in the closet better without the box.

Jon
 
Not sure on the bumper

I’m not sure on how the F bumpers install...you might look closely at if it wraps into the bag door inside at all, I know the ones on the model L do so changing them involves opening up the bag doors interior cover.

If it stops before the bag door edge perhaps it’s just a push in rubber item.

Post a closer pic of the bag door, both sides, the one missing the bumper and the one with the bumper...particularly showing if the bumper ends at the edge of the bag door or seems to wrap in and around the edge of the bag door.

I believe the bag door interior cover swings open if you take out the screws And slide the rubber gasket forward off the collar., I’d have to look at mine but it’s at a different property It was being used at now so I do t have it available to look at. Unfortunately mine was not equipped with the bumpers but one I had at one time was but since they were in tact I never had to deal with them and I actually wish this one I have now had them because they are nice if you accidentally pull the vacuum into a door frame, they soften the impact and avoid nicking your trim wood and paint.

I do wonder when they started putting the bumpers on the bag door. Mine has the power port for the power nozzle but not the bumpers. So odd.

Jon
 
I appreciate this thread as I was planning on asking you all about quality C type bags. I wondered if any were made in cloth Hepa type/manner because those type keep the airflow so much longer than the paper bags even with filtrating layers inside the paper. Does anyone know of any?
 
Yesterday I got good and bad news from Terry,
He said there is 3 diff types of the cord reels for the F’s, mine happens to be the middle version, it has larger parts inside and it’s missing half of them, the Electrolux guy my mom knew must have robbed some when the cord was put on directly. So in his stash, he has a reel in teal, and the later F version, also a few early versions with the band around, I liked the 3rd version, only diff is it has 3 little bumpers to sit on when you stand it. ( see pics). Mine is next to the teal unit, I opted fir the same unit not the teal. If I do have to re paint it, has anyone found a matching paint or do I get some enamel mixed at a automotive paint shop and mix in a prevail spray bomb?
Also he’s sending the front bumpers, I’ll put 2 good ones on.
It’s crazy how many differences there are for F’s.

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Terry's contact info..........

Is Terry's email address still the same as listed on his website? I had to ask because I haven't seen a webtv email address in a long time.
 
The type two cord reel with the three little rubber feet is for the model R. It uses the same parts as the model G. The type two for the Automatic F used unique inner parts.
 
Who knew?

I agree, so crazy the cord reels were changed but I guess F’s had the old cord reel first then the new one was introduced..then iit must have been quickly improved leaving us with the third version of parts which looks to have been identical with parts to the model L, R and G’s just different colors and I would say that’s the best one to go with because there were so many of those made so getting parts in the future would be less difficult.

I wonder if he can fit your new one with the flip open louvre? It’s a Nice touch and can be changed as I see the current one is broken off so just the tab remains. It directs the exhaust air upward so as not to blow any dust on the uncleaned portions of the floor around.

The first F I had...had the second version of the cordwinder I believe...it didn’t have the louver or the little plastic feet to stand on to avoid the metal from scraping the floor or the metal getting scuffed itself. My Brother ended up with that first F which actually belonged to a neighbor of ours. After his using it for several years the motor started smoking he said and so he threw it away several years ago. It may have had a black cord on it, that seems to sound familiar. It did not originally have the power nozzle power port.. But it did have the bumpers on the bag door. .I retrofitted the power nozzle port to it using a PN-1 teal sheath cord so it sounds like it was nearly identical to yours.

Funny thing is my Brother thought the cordwinder was the motor! He said the vacuum is so funny looking with the motor sticking out the back. I had to correct him and explain it was strictly the cordwinder and that was an option and that’s why it looked like that.

Electrolux was always working on improving the products so I’m not surprised things kept changing.

Glad to hear you have found bag door bumpers!

I noticed the model E’s and model F’s sound different. The F’s sound nearly identical to the L’s and the E’s, S’s, LX’s all sound the same. I did notice that these have different size fans which are thicker but not as large of diameter as the L type motors. Hence Electrolux clear did some sort of motor change starting with the F. I always like the tone of the L and was pleasantly surprised when I heard my best friends Mom had her F running that it sounded the same. So when picking a model to replace the E I was using as a shop vac I decided on an F for several reasons.. the unit’s carry handle is sturdier and doesn’t rip which is a problem on the E’s R’s, and L’s. it included the automatic control which I like, it has the power nozzle port for sometimes I need to use the power nozzle, It isn’t as heavy as a G, and the motor sound is pleasant in general. I did consider an1205 as well but with that one I’d have to use the electric hose for the power nozzle instead of the external wire wrap which I already had and finding an early 1205 with the power port below the hose inlet is more rare.

I’ve never had an AE to know if it uses the same motor as the E or F/L, but I’m assuming it uses the same as the E.

Jon
 
Thanks all for the info here BTW, he said has a vent for the back, but I was t going to get it, it’s in teal, now I’ll tell him to put it on. I did get a halo fir $25 for the heck of it. He was a pleasure to work with too, looking forward to getting the parts.
 
Perhaps

You might eventually find the louvre for the back in the tan/cream color on eBay. They were made in that color during the R, Bronze G’s and early white L’s and the last Gold L’s. The trick will be figuring out how people name them on eBay to search for them and find them. The teal Louver won’t be bad though And will match your floor tool. They were also made in the turquoise color for the Turquoise model G’s. Just writing this makes me realize that they were in 3 colors over time and changed for so many different models, not just the two colors which I thought was the case.

Jon
 

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