detroitdirtbag
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What’s up with the front, it doesn’t shut.
Electrolux model F
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The above Model F has a bojack hose. Again, the pattern colors are wrong. The suction relief valve was introduced with the Model E Automatic and all models thereafter had one, except the Model T.
As for the tape on the front cover, I hate to say it but the owners might have been using it without a bag which is why the cover wouldn't close.
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The above Model F has a bojack hose. Again, the pattern colors are wrong. The suction relief valve was introduced with the Model E Automatic and all models thereafter had one, except the Model T.
As for the tape on the front cover, I hate to say it but the owners might have been using it without a bag which is why the cover wouldn't close.
detroitdirtbag
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I think your rite on the no bag, it’s filthy on the inside.
detroitdirtbag
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I’m so glad my mom took care of the vac, it’s real clean inside.
Looking at the above link, the vent is teal. Funny.
Looking at the above link, the vent is teal. Funny.
Cloth bag
I think they’ve been using it with a cloth bag and sometimes these machine can be difficult to latch with the cloth bag in place because the cloth bag has a gasket as well as the bag compartment has it’s own gasket in the same area. I have a cloth bag for my F, it does shut and lock but just barely and I have to push it pretty hard to get it to latch. Plus when the automatic control feature activates with a cloth bag in the machine dirt ends up dumping on the floor when the door pops open making quite a mess so perhaps one or both of these issues is why they’ve been using the tape. Also sometime people don’t understand that to stop the door from popping open almost completely they need to turn the dial up to 6 and this user may have no understanding of how to adjust the dial or what it does and that it could stop the issue so perhaps they instead just decided to use tape to hold the door shut. They also may have been using it to suck up plaster dust or ash, both of which will clog that cloth bag almost immediately and causing the door to pop open even on 6 so they may have just gotten frustrated and taped it to keep it running.
It definitely is a mess that someone created.
It’s hard for me to tell what exactly isn’t right in the color pattern of the hose compared to the original...I think even Detroitdirtbag has difficulty seeing it. What are the exact detailed differences you see on the hose material itself Charles? This way we can learn the difference. Comparing the photos I don’t see any difference in color or pattern and not sure Detroitdirtbag does either as indicated in an earlier post.
Jon
I think they’ve been using it with a cloth bag and sometimes these machine can be difficult to latch with the cloth bag in place because the cloth bag has a gasket as well as the bag compartment has it’s own gasket in the same area. I have a cloth bag for my F, it does shut and lock but just barely and I have to push it pretty hard to get it to latch. Plus when the automatic control feature activates with a cloth bag in the machine dirt ends up dumping on the floor when the door pops open making quite a mess so perhaps one or both of these issues is why they’ve been using the tape. Also sometime people don’t understand that to stop the door from popping open almost completely they need to turn the dial up to 6 and this user may have no understanding of how to adjust the dial or what it does and that it could stop the issue so perhaps they instead just decided to use tape to hold the door shut. They also may have been using it to suck up plaster dust or ash, both of which will clog that cloth bag almost immediately and causing the door to pop open even on 6 so they may have just gotten frustrated and taped it to keep it running.
It definitely is a mess that someone created.
It’s hard for me to tell what exactly isn’t right in the color pattern of the hose compared to the original...I think even Detroitdirtbag has difficulty seeing it. What are the exact detailed differences you see on the hose material itself Charles? This way we can learn the difference. Comparing the photos I don’t see any difference in color or pattern and not sure Detroitdirtbag does either as indicated in an earlier post.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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Yes it’s hard to tell in some pics on eBay. I just don’t remember the beautiful hose, it was like all grayish.
Here’s a pic of the inside of moms. Not bad for 61 years, pays off getting good bags.
Here’s a pic of the inside of moms. Not bad for 61 years, pays off getting good bags.
That’s nice
Very clean indeed. Bet the motor isn’t too dirty either then. Have you opened up the back end yet?
My Mom has always used genuine bags in her Electrolux’s and also not used the vac to pick up anything but just household dust...no plaster dust or ash that could go through the bag so her machines are all pristine in the bag compartments too.
Looks like no one picked up anything wet either. It amazes me how many Electrolux’s I see that have evidence of moisture having been sucked into the bag. I had my niece use my F to clean a rental condo that is going up for sale and she cleaned out the fridge and somehow managed to suck up water with the vac. The bag was all wet and split open. There wasn’t water in the fridge so not sure how she managed this plus that’s a lot of water to have wet the bag that much and there was a water stain even on the bag’s cardBoard front. She had broken a glass shelf in the fridge and sucked up the glass with the vac as it was all tempered so broke into tiny pieces and I had not left her with a broom and dustpan.
Jon
Very clean indeed. Bet the motor isn’t too dirty either then. Have you opened up the back end yet?
My Mom has always used genuine bags in her Electrolux’s and also not used the vac to pick up anything but just household dust...no plaster dust or ash that could go through the bag so her machines are all pristine in the bag compartments too.
Looks like no one picked up anything wet either. It amazes me how many Electrolux’s I see that have evidence of moisture having been sucked into the bag. I had my niece use my F to clean a rental condo that is going up for sale and she cleaned out the fridge and somehow managed to suck up water with the vac. The bag was all wet and split open. There wasn’t water in the fridge so not sure how she managed this plus that’s a lot of water to have wet the bag that much and there was a water stain even on the bag’s cardBoard front. She had broken a glass shelf in the fridge and sucked up the glass with the vac as it was all tempered so broke into tiny pieces and I had not left her with a broom and dustpan.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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Nope, I have not had it open yet.
Your niece could have sucked up some ice cubes. My mom almost ruined the vac once when she used that cloth bag to save on bags. I remember the Electrolux guy yelling at her. He took it all apart and cleaned it. Luckily she went to him or it wouldn’t prob be around for me to fix up.
I’ll have to read how to open it up,again, I think someone posted that.
I remember her telling me he passed away. He prob had a,out of stuff laying around. York was his last name.
Your niece could have sucked up some ice cubes. My mom almost ruined the vac once when she used that cloth bag to save on bags. I remember the Electrolux guy yelling at her. He took it all apart and cleaned it. Luckily she went to him or it wouldn’t prob be around for me to fix up.
I’ll have to read how to open it up,again, I think someone posted that.
I remember her telling me he passed away. He prob had a,out of stuff laying around. York was his last name.
detroitdirtbag
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I just saw 3 hoses on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-3-V...980069?hash=item4b83cfc9a5:g:ToUAAOSw6Olfh03b
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-3-V...980069?hash=item4b83cfc9a5:g:ToUAAOSw6Olfh03b
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detroitdirtbag
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I got the vent, it’s nice, but I’m missing a clip or something to hold it on ?
dysonman1
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This is the original hose to the model automatic F. It has been in my collection since the late 1960s. Along with the vacuum cleaner, all the attachments, the power nozzle, and the original box. Look very closely at the colors and the patterns. It should help you in identifying an original on eBay.
detroitdirtbag
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Nice pic, Thanks.
detroitdirtbag
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So what am I missing to hold the vent in, the seller didn’t include it?
Looks like 4 hoses in the pics
These are 2 gray Silverado electric hoses. A blue 1205 electric hose, and a super J era white non-electric hose. Electrolux phased out the metal handles during the 70s and 80s. The last metal handle I saw was on a gray Silverado era electric hose...instead of the plastic handle end, it had the end just like on the blue 1205 hose. I believe Electrolux made these for 1205 owners who needed replacement hoses and wanted to stick with the metal handles, they are more rare than common because the plastic electric handle will work with either the sheath with
These are 2 gray Silverado electric hoses. A blue 1205 electric hose, and a super J era white non-electric hose. Electrolux phased out the metal handles during the 70s and 80s. The last metal handle I saw was on a gray Silverado era electric hose...instead of the plastic handle end, it had the end just like on the blue 1205 hose. I believe Electrolux made these for 1205 owners who needed replacement hoses and wanted to stick with the metal handles, they are more rare than common because the plastic electric handle will work with either the sheath with
Vent clip
So look on your cordwinder...hopefully the clip and broken tab from the old vent is still there. It was in one of the pics of the cordwinder you posted here. What you will need to do is use a straight blade screwdriver in the center of the slot where the hinge is. You will see a cut out in the center. Put the screwdriver on the upper part of the bump out of the clip and push downward, the is will contract the spring clip and allow it to come out from under the metal trim. You will need to use this spring clip to hold the new vent on so don’t damage it or lose it.
To install you’ll throw away only the old broken off vent hinge tab and put the new vent’s hinge bar in the groove of the clip, and fit the bottom edge of the clip into the bottom of the slot on the back of the cordwinder first, then using the screwdriver push down on the clip bump out to contract it so the top fits into the slot edges.
Let me know if you have questions...
Jon
So look on your cordwinder...hopefully the clip and broken tab from the old vent is still there. It was in one of the pics of the cordwinder you posted here. What you will need to do is use a straight blade screwdriver in the center of the slot where the hinge is. You will see a cut out in the center. Put the screwdriver on the upper part of the bump out of the clip and push downward, the is will contract the spring clip and allow it to come out from under the metal trim. You will need to use this spring clip to hold the new vent on so don’t damage it or lose it.
To install you’ll throw away only the old broken off vent hinge tab and put the new vent’s hinge bar in the groove of the clip, and fit the bottom edge of the clip into the bottom of the slot on the back of the cordwinder first, then using the screwdriver push down on the clip bump out to contract it so the top fits into the slot edges.
Let me know if you have questions...
Jon
https://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/BASKET/2020/20200921/detroitdirtbag-2020092108424900820_1.jpg
I copied and pasted this photo from your picture above, it shows the broken off vent tab and the clip. I did see a picture after this one that shows the cordwinder after Terry sent it to you without the clip and broken off vent hinge. I hope he didn’t take it off thinking he was doing good and not put the clip back in. If he did, perhaps you can ask him to mail you the clip Since It was originally with it and you need it. Since he is into restoring this stuff I doubt he would have thrown it away and can send it to you.
https://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/BASKET/2020/20200921/detroitdirtbag-2020092108424900820_1.jpg
I copied and pasted this photo from your picture above, it shows the broken off vent tab and the clip. I did see a picture after this one that shows the cordwinder after Terry sent it to you without the clip and broken off vent hinge. I hope he didn’t take it off thinking he was doing good and not put the clip back in. If he did, perhaps you can ask him to mail you the clip Since It was originally with it and you need it. Since he is into restoring this stuff I doubt he would have thrown it away and can send it to you.
https://www.vacuumland.org/TD/JPEG/BASKET/2020/20200921/detroitdirtbag-2020092108424900820_1.jpg
detroitdirtbag
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He took the old clip out, he kind of does what he wants. I asked for my old winder back and he said he threw it out. Also he sent a tan switch when I asked fir gray.
The vent I just bought , is is broken?
The vent I just bought , is is broken?
No
The vent is not broken. I was looking at the picture of the cordwinder you posted that I am guessing was going to be the one he was going to send you. But clearly after he sent you that picture he took the clip out and the broken off old bent tab. I guess you can contact him and mention that the photo shows it and ask to buy the clip from him. Hopefully it would be cheap and he will respect your wish to have the part That was originally on the cordwinder photo he sent you initially to complete your restoration rather than taking off the part and keeping it. Without the clip you won’t be able to attach the vent.
I’d contact him for sure to see if you can get it letting him know you have obtained the correct vent louver but need the clip back that appeared to be on the winder before he sent it to you.
Jon
The vent is not broken. I was looking at the picture of the cordwinder you posted that I am guessing was going to be the one he was going to send you. But clearly after he sent you that picture he took the clip out and the broken off old bent tab. I guess you can contact him and mention that the photo shows it and ask to buy the clip from him. Hopefully it would be cheap and he will respect your wish to have the part That was originally on the cordwinder photo he sent you initially to complete your restoration rather than taking off the part and keeping it. Without the clip you won’t be able to attach the vent.
I’d contact him for sure to see if you can get it letting him know you have obtained the correct vent louver but need the clip back that appeared to be on the winder before he sent it to you.
Jon
detroitdirtbag
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He took it off. Everything is extra. And like I said, he does what he wants. I said send me a gray rocker, he sent a tan. I put a note in the box, he threw it out. I deal is car parts, it is t that hard.
detroitdirtbag
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What does the part look like I’m looking for to hold the vent on ?
