Dyson Piston

[cheesewonton]

Cheesewonton critisized Samsung (at least I think he did) for having different types of necks.

Not so much a criticism as an observation that Samsung did something different and that makes it impossible to use anything not specifically designed for Samsungs. Their wands are a non-standard diameter and they fit upside down with the button lock on top. That means the hose end is female and an oddball size. Good luck finding attachments that fit! It limits what you can use for a power nozzle too. None of that would be a problem if Samsung still supported those older vacuums with spares, but they don't. It's a shame too because something like a Samsung Quiet Jet is an outstanding canister vacuum.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Not sure i'm a fan of how the V16 empties the bin, at least in this example at 2:41.

I've found it much better at emptying than the earlier point and shoot design. That video has seemingly cherry picked very unusual or contrived situations to present that I've never been able to reproduce. The testing is also highly misleading and unrepresentative of real-world experience. I'm tempted to so a pre-review video exposing the common deceptions I'm noticing when people review this machine.

Panasonic was selling theirs in Japan as a power nozzle for one of their Japan market canister vacuums before Dyson introduced the fluffy cone thing. Panasonic maybe had to get patents globally to sell outside Japan or to sell it with a stick vac since the idea originated with a canister power nozzle but I had one in 2019 right before the Pandemic and that predates both companies western patents.

You're repeating old statements resolved in links in the previous comment.

Real life hands on experience with the actual hardware. Something tiddlywinks V-F should have more of.

You realise how silly and hypocritical this comment looks, right. People can look at the experience I've had with different machines on my channel and make their own minds up.

 

[centralsweeper63]

He means fixxing vacuums.

 

[herbicide]

You realise how silly and hypocritical this comment looks, right. People can look at the experience I've had with different machines on my channel and make their own minds up.

And what does your like/dislike ratio look like? How about criticisms versus support statements?

How does the polls on this website fare for Dyson?

Seems like the “people” have made their minds up.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Yes, Dyson has once again been proven unpopular on this "echo chamber of ignorence".

 

[cheesewonton]

I've found it much better at emptying than the earlier point and shoot design. That video has seemingly cherry picked very unusual or contrived situations to present that I've never been able to reproduce. The testing is also highly misleading and unrepresentative of real-world experience. I'm tempted to so a pre-review video exposing the common deceptions I'm noticing when people review this machine.


You're repeating old statements resolved in links in the previous comment.


You realise how silly and hypocritical this comment looks, right. People can look at the experience I've had with different machines on my channel and make their own minds up.

You didn't resolve them. All you did was basically call me a liar. I had the Panasonic nozzle in my hands in the US in 2019. It was already in production and being sold in Japan where I bought it.

 

[centralsweeper63]

I believe CheeseWonton.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

You didn't resolve them. All you did was basically call me a liar. I had the Panasonic nozzle in my hands in the US in 2019. It was already in production and being sold in Japan where I bought it.

You were unable to provide any evidence to support your claim that Panasonic invented the concept and Dyson stole it, when all the evidence supported the contrary. And now you even seem to have forgotten the important details of the debate itself. Figures.

 

[cheesewonton]

You were unable to provide any evidence to support your claim that Panasonic invented the concept and Dyson stole it, when all the evidence supported the contrary. And now you even seem to have forgotten the important details of the debate itself. Figures.

Ever hear or see the term "patent pending"? You see that on lots of old US appliances. The product is in production and for sale to the public but the patent application and issuance are still working their way through the various patent offices. Patent(s) haven't been issued but the product is for sale. All I know Is I had one in my hands in 2019 before the pandemic shut down shipping small packages from Japan to the US.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Patent pending, that is quite an important detail. I hadn't thought of that.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Ever hear or see the term "patent pending"? You see that on lots of old US appliances. The product is in production and for sale to the public but the patent application and issuance are still working their way through the various patent offices. Patent(s) haven't been issued but the product is for sale. All I know Is I had one in my hands in 2019 before the pandemic shut down shipping small packages from Japan to the US.

This is such an irrelevant thing to say because, if you'd looked at the evidence provided for you, you'd see there was no evidence any patents were pending, and the Panasonic patents ALL post-date Dyson's. If all you knew is you 'had one in your hands in 2019', many years after Dyson's patents, then you were even more unjustified in making the utterly absurd claim Panasonic invented the technology. Repeating what had been concluded confidently earlier: you have no case, have spouted falsehoods in a manner consistent with those that mislead that I've criticised on my channel, and have permanently tarnished your credibility here and with me. The record of anti-Dyson propaganda is here for people to read and make their own decisions in the future. Equally poor is the support by others for a position wholly counter to evidence. Very revealing and people can make their own conclusions about respectability on factual matters going forward.

 

[centralsweeper63]

I don't mind one mistake. My reputation is gone with you, though I know that I don't mind.

 

[herbicide]

This is such an irrelevant thing to say because, if you'd looked at the evidence provided for you, you'd see there was no evidence any patents were pending, and the Panasonic patents ALL post-date Dyson's. If all you knew is you 'had one in your hands in 2019', many years after Dyson's patents, then you were even more unjustified in making the utterly absurd claim Panasonic invented the technology. Repeating what had been concluded confidently earlier: you have no case, have spouted falsehoods in a manner consistent with those that mislead that I've criticised on my channel, and have permanently tarnished your credibility here and with me. The record of anti-Dyson propaganda is here for people to read and make their own decisions in the future. Equally poor is the support by others for a position wholly counter to evidence. Very revealing and people can make their own conclusions about respectability on factual matters going forward.

How is all this bearing out for you:

people to read and make their own decisions in the future.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Yeah, um, people need to make their own decisions that are influinced by VacuumFacts.

 

[cheesewonton]

This is such an irrelevant thing to say because, if you'd looked at the evidence provided for you, you'd see there was no evidence any patents were pending, and the Panasonic patents ALL post-date Dyson's. If all you knew is you 'had one in your hands in 2019', many years after Dyson's patents, then you were even more unjustified in making the utterly absurd claim Panasonic invented the technology. Repeating what had been concluded confidently earlier: you have no case, have spouted falsehoods in a manner consistent with those that mislead that I've criticised on my channel, and have permanently tarnished your credibility here and with me. The record of anti-Dyson propaganda is here for people to read and make their own decisions in the future. Equally poor is the support by others for a position wholly counter to evidence. Very revealing and people can make their own conclusions about respectability on factual matters going forward.

Whatever. I had the hardware in hand in 2019.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Such a fight.

 

[cheesewonton]

Such a fight.

Sigh. Like I always say, hire the young while they still know everything.