Dyson Piston

[Vacuum Facts]

What's sad is there are some pretty cool patents from Dyson in the robot space that will probably now never see the light of day since they're choosing to out source.

I've decided not to speculate and instead just judge what they release.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

I've decided not to speculate and instead just judge what they release.

And judging by that, the initial version of V16 doesn't truly perform well without the hack you mentioned...

Bruh to Dyson, this is the first time since the V10 domination that they managed to release a scummy product. I'm not sure if they've previously did that kind of stunt before, but this is news to us.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

@Vacuum Facts I have a suggestion for your review: you can choose to say that V16 is a technologically advanced vacuum that doesn't initially perform well and needs your hack or a revision that fixes the problem that had severely reduced the performance. Oh, and don't forget to tell people to protest Dyson for launching this first version of a normally amazing product that doesn't truly work well without any hacks. V16 is truly amazing and would've been perfect (for an expensive flagship) if not for the one mistake Dyson didn't manage to spot in time.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

And judging by that, the initial version of V16 doesn't truly perform well without the hack you mentioned...

Bruh to Dyson, this is the first time since the V10 domination that they managed to release a scummy product. I'm not sure if they've previously did that kind of stunt before, but this is news to us.

@Vacuum Facts I have a suggestion for your review: you can choose to say that V16 is a technologically advanced vacuum that doesn't initially perform well and needs your hack or a revision that fixes the problem that had severely reduced the performance. Oh, and don't forget to tell people to protest Dyson for launching this first version of a normally amazing product that doesn't truly work well without any hacks. V16 is truly amazing and would've been perfect (for an expensive flagship) if not for the one mistake Dyson didn't manage to spot in time.

@Vacuum Facts I know, since I watched your videos.

Also, what was the mistake that reduced the power and the performance of the V16, and what's the hack that's needed to fix the initial revision/launch version of the V16? If you're able to answer that here, we would appreciate it!

 

[vac14012]

And judging by that, the initial version of V16 doesn't truly perform well without the hack you mentioned...

Bruh to Dyson, this is the first time since the V10 domination that they managed to release a scummy product. I'm not sure if they've previously did that kind of stunt before, but this is news to us.

The new robot vacuum is the first product from them I've seen that outright looks atrocious in every way imaginable. I don't care if they use a third party if the product still looks good. But nothing about this thing looks like it'll clean well like the VisNav did.

They've released in the past some mediocre products or maybe things that didn't work that well. Like the cinetic uprights.

But I've never seen them release such a blatantly cheaply made product like this robot vacuum looks. If they fixed up the navigation the VisNav would be the best robot vacuum ever.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

The new robot vacuum is the first product from them I've seen that outright looks atrocious in every way imaginable. I don't care if they use a third party if the product still looks good. But nothing about this thing looks like it'll clean well like the VisNav did.

They've released in the past some mediocre products or maybe things that didn't work that well. Like the cinetic uprights.

But I've never seen them release such a blatantly cheaply made product like this robot vacuum looks. If they fixed up the navigation the VisNav would be the best robot vacuum ever.

Is it surprising the Chinese made the newer robot, while Dyson is the main behind Vis Nav? Perhaps they're experimenting with the 3rd-party bodies- I dunno.

@Vacuum Facts I have a suggestion for your review: you can choose to say that V16 is a technologically advanced vacuum that doesn't initially perform well and needs your hack or a revision that fixes the problem that had severely reduced the performance. Oh, and don't forget to tell people to protest Dyson for launching this first version of a normally amazing product that doesn't truly work well without any hacks. V16 is truly amazing and would've been perfect (for an expensive flagship) if not for the one mistake Dyson didn't manage to spot in time.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

No matter how you cut it, V16 is now a meme machine. A spectacular machine held down shockingly by a ridiculous mistake that halves the motor power and cleaning performance. A weird-ash (censored because... IDK) case, and oh my god... LOL

 

[vac14012]

I mean there's still time to fix it. But why would anyone buy one if the motor power is halved still by official release? Might as well just get the new V8 Cyclone.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

I mean there's still time to fix it. But why would anyone buy one if the motor power is halved still by official release? Might as well just get the new V8 Cyclone.

The motor power isn't halved. The nominal power consumption is reduced due to optimisations; power wastage is minimised when not needed, but motor power ramps up when dirt is detected. You can still get 900 W of power output in certain circumstances. I'm going to cover all this in the review.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

I mean there's still time to fix it. But why would anyone buy one if the motor power is halved still by official release? Might as well just get the new V8 Cyclone.

I meant motor power used getting halved. Also, yeah I agree, there's still time to fix it.
Also, V8 Cyclone won't come out until 2026, either. So make that you will.

The motor power isn't halved. The nominal power consumption is reduced due to optimisations; power wastage is minimised when not needed, but motor power ramps up when dirt is detected. You can still get 900 W of power output in certain circumstances. I'm going to cover all this in the review.

It is true you can still get 900 W goodness. But V16 defaulted to 450 W, and according to various comments at my own thread regarding the hack for the initial release of V16, it's due to the clamping problem on carpets and rugs. @Vacuum Facts

See, this is about to get memetic...

 

[Vacuum Facts]

It is true you can still get 900 W goodness. But V16 defaulted to 450 W, and according to various comments at my own thread regarding the hack for the initial release of V16, it's due to the clamping problem on carpets and rugs. @Vacuum Facts

This is just wrong

 

[shattered]

V8 Cyclone is actually coming out on 17th of September in UK at £349

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

This is just wrong

@Vacuum Facts then what was the reasons leading to the problem then?

V8 Cyclone is actually coming out on 17th of September in UK at £349

2026 US though.

Also,

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

This is just wrong

@Vacuum Facts why?

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

It is true you can still get 900 W goodness. But V16 defaulted to 450 W [...]

See, this is about to get memetic...

Still, if you guys are going to complain that the (initial batch of) V16 cleans only half as well as it's supposed to be (and being even worse than some of the best dupes out there), which I actually recommend EVERY SINGLE DYSON USERS doing ASAP and constantly, please complain about it on social media, for me and @Vacuum Facts! Get this issue viral so Dyson would notice! community.dyson.com isn't working anymore, otherwise I would've also do the complaint there as well!

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

@Vacuum Facts I have a suggestion for your review: you can choose to say that V16 is a technologically advanced vacuum that doesn't initially perform well and needs your hack or a revision that fixes the problem that had severely reduced the performance. Oh, and don't forget to tell people to protest Dyson for launching this first version of a normally amazing product that doesn't truly work well without any hacks. V16 is truly amazing and would've been perfect (for an expensive flagship) if not for the one mistake Dyson didn't manage to spot in time.

@Vacuum Facts I'm going to view the Dyson V16 (or at least the initial batch with the optimization mistake) as a tragic cordless machine.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

First big review: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/recommended/home/reviews/dyson-v16-piston-animal-vacuum-review/

Does that check any boxes, or is this review actually dumb in @Vacuum Facts eyes? I myself didn't find much direct, objective data... except for the lighter handheld weight (2.1kg, down from 2.3kg), that is.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

First big review: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/recommended/home/reviews/dyson-v16-piston-animal-vacuum-review/

Does that check any boxes, or is this review actually dumb in @Vacuum Facts eyes? I myself didn't find much direct, objective data... except for the lighter handheld weight (2.1kg, down from 2.3kg), that is.

And here's one preliminary review: https://www.techradar.com/home/vacuums/dyson-v16-piston-animal-cordless-vacuum-review

These guys are not done reviewing the machine yet. It seems TechRadar hasn't yet found the optimization mistake @Vacuum Facts and @frickhelm noticed...

Officially, the V16 has the most suction of any Dyson stick vacuum, but on first impressions, I didn't really notice a difference in cleaning power compared to cleaning using the V15 (this house's usual vacuum, and two models down from the V16 – despite what the number might suggest, the Gen5detect sits in the middle). I'll run some side-by-side suction tests with all three to see if there is a difference I'm not seeing.

 

[Absolute Rainbow]

And here's the second big review: https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/dyson-v16-piston-animal

Trusted Review posted, and their V16 apparently doesn't have the mistake that halves the max power consumption as "optimization", the same problem that made us fear the V16. @Vacuum Facts will dismiss this particular review for understandable and obvious reasons, so I'll just...

To get an idea of raw power, I measure the suction power in air watts (AW) at the handle. On Boost power, the Dyson V16 Piston Animal managed 401AW, which is the first time that I’ve seen a cordless cleaner deliver this much power. That’s quite a staggering amount of suction.

Put into Auto mode, the cleaner starts at 98AW, up from 75AW on the Gen5detect. However, the power mode does increase as dust is detected.

On Eco mode, the 45AW power is plenty for lighter jobs when you don’t need much suction.

Note that the Boost mode is claimed to be 315AW. 900 W motor wrongly optimized to 450 W would gimp it down to no more than 160AW (in Boost mode, DAMMIT!)

 

[Vacuum Facts]

V8 Cyclone is actually coming out on 17th of September in UK at £349

The dupe competition have kept this old format afloat, which is working in Dyson's favour. They polish up the old version a bit and keep it on top. It's old technology though to me, so I've little interest in it.

And those three article reviews are all cookie cutter sponsored-like reviews. No real details, just regurgitating the marketing, and drawing conclusions from poor 'testing'. They slip in the odd opinion which reveals idiocy (the lack of flat front edge), as I'll reveal in my review. Not worth people's time as people come away with a half truth which could have been summarised in a single short paragraph.