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Well you can't really get better than no hair tangling when it comes to hair tangling lol. The only significant variable would be in air velocity, but I would just recommend avoiding underpowered machines.
That's pretty unconvincing. If you have any reputable, objective evidence for the kind of use cases the Dyson approach can handle—that has also been independently verified—please send it along. Otherwise, I conclude there's absolutely nothing to go on and I don't believe for a second the machine you refer to is capable of universally achieving hair detangling.
 
That's pretty unconvincing. If you have any reputable, objective evidence for the kind of use cases the Dyson approach can handle—that has also been independently verified—please send it along. Otherwise, I conclude there's absolutely nothing to go on and I don't believe for a second the machine you refer to is capable of universally achieving hair detangling.

Thankfully reality doesn't depend upon you believing me!
 
Thankfully reality doesn't depend upon you believing me!
Correct, it depends on evidence...which hasn't been provided, so no one worth their weight in salt should believe what's been said on that point. I'm sure it works for you, but not convinced it works universally.
 
This has been fully debunked long ago (note the correction in the description). Dyson invented the concept, Panasonic seemingly nicked the idea and patented it where it wasn't covered and released to market first. Their design suffers from the additional problem of massive unswept edges where their motors sit. Poor design.
I respectfully disagree. I have had one of these Japanese Panasonics in my own collection for many years before Diesoon introduced their Fluffy Cone design. It has been on the market in Japan for seven or eight years, which means it was developed in the years preceding introduction. Panasonic is the innovator here. Dyson is a copy cat.
 
Then I leave you to provide sufficient evidence to support that. Let's see how well you do. So far you've just decreed by fiat what you say is true. Really simple: show the machine and the relevant features of its design, its model number, and provide evidence of its manufacturing date. You apparently have this so it should take you no time at all. Then we can cross reference to patent literature associated with using conical brushbars to remove hair.
 
I respectfully disagree. I have had one of these Japanese Panasonics in my own collection for many years before Diesoon introduced their Fluffy Cone design. It has been on the market in Japan for seven or eight years, which means it was developed in the years preceding introduction. Panasonic is the innovator here. Dyson is a copy cat.
You're forgetting here that Dyson released hair screw tool with their V15 in 2021.
 
Then I leave you to provide sufficient evidence to support that. Let's see how well you do. So far you've just decreed by fiat what you say is true. Really simple: show the machine and the relevant features of its design, its model number, and provide evidence of its manufacturing date. You apparently have this so it should take you no time at all. Then we can cross reference to patent literature associated with using conical brushbars to remove hair.
I had the Panasonic nozzle in my collection before the Covid pandemic, so 2019. I bought it soon after they came out in Japan.
 
I had the Panasonic nozzle in my collection before the Covid pandemic, so 2019. I bought it soon after they came out in Japan.
Unfortunately, that's not what was asked for, which was the minimum necessary to support the claim convincingly in a fact-checkable way. Do you think you'll be able to provide the evidence required? To be clear, that's an image of the machine and the relevant features of its design in question (conical brush bars), its model number, and evidence of its manufacture date (or that allows it to be determined).
 
Unfortunately, that's not what was asked for, which was the minimum necessary to support the claim convincingly in a fact-checkable way. Do you think you'll be able to provide the evidence required? To be clear, that's an image of the machine and the relevant features of its design in question (conical brush bars), its model number, and evidence of its manufacture date (or that allows it to be determined).
Love, that's his evidence: He had the Panasonic nozzle in his collection before the Covid pandemic, so 2019. He bought it soon after they came out in Japan.
 
I believe he has it. I'm genuinely interested. Maybe Panasonic did invent it. I'm not convinced and I'm trying to find out. If there's evidence of the product coming out before the first Dyson patents, then that's all I'll need to change my mind. I've often found, though, that getting evidence out of people to support their claims is like getting blood out of a stone. But maybe things will be different for the first time.
 

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