Based on reviews seems the problem with the new cleaner head isn't the empty line in the middle (you could just make multiple passes to alleviate that, which you should be doing anyway) but the new head doesn't suction well to carpets anymore so the deep cleaning performance is ruined. No amount of extra passes would fix that. That's a shame.
Dyson Piston
- Thread starter Vacuum Facts
- Start date
Help Support VacuumLand:
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
Yep. I quantify the relative contribution to performance loss from all factors in my review. I just can't believe they did this. This is a serious failure of quality and failure of management internally. Where are the assholes calling me a 'Dyson fanboy' now? Silent, naturally.
The thing I find a bit disapointing is bin scraping. It does compress dirt very well, but always leaves dirt path at the top.
Another bad thing I noticed, when you use hair screw tool, mini crevice tool ends up covered in dust, it's definitely not sealed well there unless I have a dodgy unit
Another bad thing I noticed, when you use hair screw tool, mini crevice tool ends up covered in dust, it's definitely not sealed well there unless I have a dodgy unit
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
I'm just wondering how many of them who have said I produce nothing but biased, opinionated rubbish because I apparently 'work for Dyson' and never criticise them—ignoring evidence to the contrary, will start citing my results and repeating my conclusions as though they suddenly consider me an authority now that I'm 'supporting their aims'. Or will they stay consistent and say my conclusions are still biased and decide they like Dyson now. Lose lose for them really. In a way, I've been waiting for a moment like this.
The bin wiping isn't that bad, although it does scratch the surface if you get a sharp hard object in there. But at least the bin shouldn't cloud as badly over time anymore. The dust on the tools is electrostatic in origin, not related to poor seals. The seals are good.
The bin wiping isn't that bad, although it does scratch the surface if you get a sharp hard object in there. But at least the bin shouldn't cloud as badly over time anymore. The dust on the tools is electrostatic in origin, not related to poor seals. The seals are good.
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
All that dust on the nozzle is prior to the seals. When you remove it, it's disturbed and electrostatically migrates to the surface of the hair screw tool connector. The hair screw tool collects a lot more fine dust, e.g. from a bed, unlike a crevice tool. This isn't a seal issue. It's also not ideal, but these dusty internal parts are usually enclosed by the tools/wand. It's unclear yet whether the strong electrostatic attraction is just because it's new. I get the same thing. It also couldn't be a seal thing because the behind the seal is low pressure, not high pressure, so leaks would cause flow into the machine, not outward, with the main problem being loss of suction, which this machine has plenty of (except at the cleaner head where it's kind of needed...).
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
Not sure why that's inconsistent. But that mini crevice tool is still within the dirt path. Mine has dust on it and it's all got into the main head connection, but I've been picking up a lot of fine dust during testing. It's a new problem with this design, but not sure how big of an issue it is yet beyond cosmetic.
cheesewonton
Well-known member
Just me but anyone who expresses even the slightest admiration or affection for anything that ever wore the Dyson brand has lots all credibility with me. They know nothing about vacuums. Dysons were junk from day one with fragile, brittle plastics, miserable agitation, overly complex to work on, poor parts support and grossly over priced. They became a fad due to effective marketing ( lies ) but they are not a quality product.
If you want a high quality upright vacuum you buy Lindhaus, Sebo, Aerus, Carpet Pro, Titan or Cirrus. If you want a quality canister vac you buy Sebo, Aerus or Kenmore, with that Cirrus VC439 being not too bad either ( really only lacks a furniture guard on the canister, easily remedied with a Vacu-Bumper ) but not as good a value as a Kenmore. If you want a handy cordless lightweight upright look at the Lindhaus Valzer. There is a battery powered version and it is very nice. Puts anything Diesoon ever made to shame. Lindhaus has the best power nozzle or nozzle base in the industry. Nothing cleans better in my home though Kenmore and Sebo are real close.
Try using a quality vacuum for a while and maybe you get over this fetish for squeaky hard plastic, clogged filters and cyclones and substandard performance.
I have to say personally speaking I've never had any issues emptying the v15. I just place it into the garbage a bit and push down. The only time I had a big dust cloud was when my garbage was too high, but that was my fault.
Obviously it doesn't get all the microscopic dust and occasionally a wipe down of the bin is a good idea. But I'm wondering if sacrificing the first stage cyclone was worth it for the compaction feature.
Good for you, made your point so move on, don't waste your time on Dyson.
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
Unfortunately, the comments about Dyson's mains-equivalent products (until the V16) are so at odds with reality and simple fact-checkable evidence, that it reveals nothing more than subjective tribalism than objective respectability. On my side of the fence, it's this that loses "all credibility with me". As for those recommendations, the Sebo Felix, while a good performer, was *very* costly to achieve it, suffered reduction in performance as a function of dust loading, had ongoing running costs, was noisy, and not very convenient to use at all. Many of us want to leave that junk technology in the past—and we do. If you have any reptuable, objective evidence to support the claim "Lindhaus has the best power nozzle or nozzle base in the industry", then please provide it, otherwise it won't look good at all for said credibility. Basic industry standard test data that support this will be required, including a detailed explanation for why evidence shows that amongst upright mains cleaners, the latest Dyson machine cleans better than any other product, as independently verified to formal industry test standards—you know...real evidence rather than playground claims that convince low IQ gullibles. The Gen5 cleans better than most mains cleaners I've tested in its default mode and better than the industry best mains cleaner in boost mode. Plus then there's all the basic science on my channel explaining first order systems and, above a certain performance level, more power just cleans faster, not better—i.e. they remove all the dirt fairly quickly.
Yeah, it's quite easy to clean the bin on the V16 in fairness. And my (incomplete) testing so far shows the new separator is magnificient and at least as good as the inertial cyclonic separator of old, but smaller and without the shroud blinding issues.
Ha, you wish
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
Yeah, I think that's a software thing, making decisions slowly based on inputs. Now Dyson have retrograded with the stupid online app approach, they can partake in the scummy practice that all the others do...release now, fix later. Does it on mine too. Sometimes it detects a lot of dirt, ramps up suction, but ends up clamping a bit, falsely triggering the dynamic load sensor and making it think it's on carpet. Gen 5 does this too, but its less distracting without a laser flashing on and off. Either a) ignore it and it'll fix itself and you just get used to it, or b) lift the back up off the floor for a second until it calms down. Or c) "buy Lindhaus, Sebo, Aerus, Carpet Pro, Titan or Cirrus" and stop using plastic cheap overpriced toys.
I haven't used it but have you checked the settings in the app?
Vacuum Facts
Well-known member
Take a look, but from experience, I'm pretty sure the settings in there won't help. There's not much and they don't change much anyway. The app (concept and approach) is another thing I'll be criticising...
cheesewonton
Well-known member
Software on a vacuum is a problem, not a solution. KISS.
