Dyson engineering ineptitude and complacency

[vacerator]

Paul, legal etc.

It is legal in south beach where Starina performs with Twyla.
"Bird Cage", 1996.

 

[vacerator]

If I had to

Lug a vacuum up and down stairs, I'd take the James D over a Kirby.

 

[sebo4me]

Haha. That's the film with 3 drag queens isn't it? Very appropriate for this site

 

[vacerator]

Drag,

One does like a hint of color now.
I have never done drag. Not only would I need to shave a lot, or use much hair dabilitory cream, it's not my thing. I like to watch it though.

 

[sebo4me]

It's a very funny film. I only dress up in drag on a Friday night. I do a great Shirley Bassey. Hey big spender.

 

[kirbysthebest]

Marcus

Pixie dust is still  legal with a prescription.   Tinker-bell will be your local contact.  I caution you around Peter-Pan as he has been known to snort the stuff, and then--you do not want to know what happens.


 


Don't let Tink know your useful intentions as she gets a little upset when people go harvesting Fairy wings.  You gotta understand her sensitivity.

 

[ralph123]

Regarding the original topic - "Dyson engineering ineptitude and complacency" - who really knows what the engineers are up to? Does anyone track their patents? Even then you probably need to be an insider to have any idea what their engineers are up to. Engineers aren't the only ones involved in getting new products/features to market.

 

[sptyks]

Why do these threads always degenerate into nonsense?


I mean Pixie Dust, Fairy Wings???


 


Let's get back on track and discuss something meaningful.


 


 

 

[kirbysthebest]

Why do these threads always degenerate into nonsense?

Well there was a flow to the conversation. 


Exaggeration, sarcasm


 


Poor horsey, poor dead horsey.


 

 

[sebo4me]

Sometimes they start off with nonsense

 

[sptyks]

Vacuum Test - Dyson vs Kirby...

Marcus: If you really want to convince someone as to the best dirt removing vacuum, then you would make a video like this which definitely shows that a ten year old Kirby can out clean a brand new Dyson DC65 fresh out of the box:


 


 

 

[sebo4me]

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[sebo4me]

Hmmmm is he a Kirby salesman by any chance?

 

[sebo4me]

I'm going to buy a used Kirby soon and try it out against my Dyson, Sebo and Miele.
The Kirby might clean better but there won't be a great deal in it. 5% at the most.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Don't they say the lvacuum that goes last always wins!?

 

[sebo4me]

They do Jon which is why it's difficult to prove which cleans better. But I still want to try it for myself

You would expect the Kirby to clean better being a direct air motor but I don't think it will be as much as some say.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Totally agree Paul, why not you go for it let us know what you find when you do.

True, there varying factors too!

 

[parwaz786]

Hi Blakaeg

I am doing well thanks! I hope you are also

I actually agree with you, and we all have our opinions lol- I prefer the feel of an older Dyson aswell, but the fragility of them is a bit annoying for me (I had lots of DC07's, Dc04's and DC01's with cracked plastics, but the newer ones are stronger but feel more flimsy. I find that the DC14 is the most well built Dyson vacuum because it feels very solid, and the plastic isn't fragile, the wand is very solid and sturdy but if I were to try and snap it off, it would bend but with extreme force

Regarding the DC50, funnily enough my cousin bought a new 700w DC50 and it's good but the wand handle is horrible, literally the longer something it, the more flexible it's going to be, right? The DC50 is the perfect example
I like the Small ball, looks like a better built machine

-Tayyab

 

[parwaz786]

Oh and FYI guys, the video above with the Riccar brilliance, the new Dysons can agitate as well as that can, if not better.

No matter how good a Kirby can clean, I would still pick my DC41 Mk2. It deep cleans perfectly fine and we don't have thick carpets anyway. I ahve only one and it still does well on that. At least the DC41 Mk2 looks modern and doesn't need the cleaner head taking off too fit the hose, I can use it within the blink of an eye and I just love the colours. Kirbys are very inconvenient for British homes and homes in the UK are getting smaller now! We need smaller vacuums. Kirbys are fantastic for American homes because they are huge because America has WAY more land than the UK does so you can have bigger houses as a benefit.

 

[dys0nb0y]

In the vs videos it's funny how in all of them they either use a broken or a 2 3 4 8 10 year old model or a inferior model,and in kode1996 video the Kirby is in the back and it's a sentria 2.

 

[vacerator]

last posted video, Kirby's etc.

did not upload properly.
Paul, a Kirby will not have as much suction or airflow as a Dyson.
Remember, A Kirby has a soft bag. No closed suction chamber.
A Dyson is essentially a sealed cylinder type cleaner turned upright.
Now, to the person who was critical of us having a little fairy dust fun:
Don't be like Ferris Beuhler's principal with a chunk of coal you know where, that might exit as a diamond.

 

[vacerator]

Kirby video,

So why didn't he dump the flour and soda back on the carpet and use the Kirby?

 

[sptyks]

Vacerator:

Why would you want to dump the contents of the Dyson back on the floor? That would defeat the purpose of the Dirtmeter test. Are you not familiar with how a Dirtmeter works?


 


 

 

[sptyks]

Vacerator:

It is a known fact that a Kirby has way more Airflow than a dyson. The Kirby relies on Agitation and Airflow not suction to clean carpets. The rotating brushroll Agitates the carpet as the tremendous airflow moves it into the bag.

 

[sebo4me]

Suction and airflow are 2 sides of the same coin. Without suction there's no airflow.
Doesn't matter if it's a direct air motor or clean air motor they both work on the same principle.
They create a drop in ambient pressure.

 

[sptyks]

Marcus:

You must have been asleep in your high school Physics classes. Suction and airflow ARE NOT the same thing! If they are the same, then why is each one measured differently?


Suction is measured in inches of water lift, whereas Airflow is measured in CFM (Cubic feet per minute. You would never hear of a cylinder vacuum suction measured in CFM. Its always measured in inches of water lift.


 


Sure there is a small amount of suction present in a Kirby floor head as the motor starts up, but when it's up to full speed it's all Airflow baby!


 





 





 

 

[parwaz786]

That hoover has a blocked filter

Trust me, I noticed this with my DC14 when I vacuumed up plaster dust, the suction was almost killed but the motor is powerful so was sucking hardcore through the filter, it wil sound loud but not enough for the air relief valve to blow. Some people think it still has suction but it doesn't.

I bought a DC33 Animal the other week, the guy said it still sucked but didn't pick up anything. The filter was blocked and the hose had crap suction, but still enough for the average person to think it still sucks

 

[sebo4me]

I didn't say they were the same thing.
I said both motors create a drop in the ambient pressure which causes airflow.

 

[sebo4me]

This pressure drop behind the fan is just like the pressure drop in a straw when you sip from your drink. The pressure level in the area behind the fan drops below the pressure level outside the vacuum cleaner (the ambient air pressure). This creates suction, a partial vacuum, inside the vacuum cleaner. The ambient air pushes itself into the vacuum cleaner through the intake port because the air pressure inside the vacuum cleaner is lower than the pressure outside.

 

[sebo4me]

Understand now Stanley?