Best deep cleaner? Kirby or sanitaire?

[joshdonnell]

Kirby

Im might be young but im not wrong

 

[twocvbloke]

Dunno why, but the last few posts made me think of this sign:

 

[gsheen]

Seen I was the one who started this mess by overreacting I will say the following. 


Yes Dave I do wish I could go back and delete what I said, I acted in hast and anger at a comment that I found offensive.


Yes I do use spell check but as  did say I am dyslecsic and battle badly with spelling I ofetn read my posts through three or four times before posting but didn't that day. Even spell check doesn't pick up every thing.


 


I did appologise to Christopher both here via email but he does have a valid point. Reaserch before you post. I often see info on here and think NO thats not right, but then again I have learnt so much on this forum too.


 


People believe any thing thats on the net especially Utube , I often get customers saying "but on utube it says this" I always respond by saying this " ever watched Mythbusters they would be out of a job if everything on utube was true"


 


this thread started by asking wich is better Sainitare or Kirby I know guys on this forum and off that swear that either one is the best. They are absolutly right because at the end of the day there choice works best for them .


 


I have used sainitares and think they are great , I have used kirby's and thought they cleaned well but I am not a Kirby fan myself ( will not the latest oneany way) and that has to do with other reasons.


 


The end of the day go to a vacuum shop and try out both, then make your choice. Which ever model you find works for you is the best for you if that makes sense


 


Cheers Gareth and I am sorry for making a mess out of this thread.

 

[Sanifan]

Red and Blue lines...

Sean,

Are you certain the motors in the Red and Blue line Sanitaires are different? I'm fairly new to vacs, but I was under the impression that Red and Blues were the same save for the cord (two prong polarized for the blue, longer commercial-length three prong cord for the red), the color, and some other minor cosmetic differences.

All the other specs appear identical, including motor amperage, CFM, and otherwise. It seems odd to me that they would specify a different motor for the blue line unless it were significantly cheaper.

I tried to look up the parts lists on the Sanitaire site but it required me to be on Explorer to access the info, and I'm in my Touchpad.

Maybe someone who knows for sure could comment? Thanks!

 

[Sanifan]

Blueline motor...

I was able to download the partslist of the Blueline. While it doesn't give the motor specs, it does give a part number for the motor assembly. It is 53349-7.

I'll need to wait until I get onto Explorer to check the partslist for the Redline. I suspect they may be the same motor unit, but I don't know.

Thanks for putting things right, Gareth. This thread kinda spun out of hand, but it's good we've all cooled down, now. This forum has been a great source of camaraderie and learning for me, and I'm sure for others, too. Let's get back to the good will and good discussion that makes this place tick!

 

[twocvbloke]

Sanitaires generally share the same range of motors (Blenders & Pancakes, and varying amp ratings from I think about 4Amps up to 7Amps), the cheaper end of the Sanitaire range (plastic hoods usually, varies though) generally uses Blender motors, and the shiny end of the range (the chromed hood ones) usually have the Pancake motors...

And as for the "what works best" thing, I used to use my Kirbys a lot for cleaning, and have grown up with Kirbys all my life too, then I got a Sanitaire a few years ago, wasn't convinced at first, but doing off-camera pickup tests of my own, I found the sanitaire to do better than any of my Kirbys at the time, they have more airflow and suction than a Kirby, they have better brushroll designs (Distribulator, VibraGroomerI and II), and they have huge bags for better filtration, yeah they haven't got hose tools as standard (and frankly, they're quite abysmal when they do!!), but, that's what a Tristar CXL is for...

 

[gsheen]

Scvacuumguy could you post a pic of those fans from the side ?

 

[tolivac]

and remember-the fans on Kirby "G" series vacuums changed after the G5-starting with the G6 they were using the "NASA" designed tapered fans-the blades trailing edges were lower towards the outside edge of the fan.And the fancase was tapered internally to match-this design has been used in engine turbochargers for years-and Meile vacuums (Vortech) motors have the tapered fans and fancases.My Tornado wet-dry vacuum has a tapered fan and fancase.So for the Kirby G vacuums two types of fans were used-tapered and non tapered blades.The lower trailing edge blade could less prone to breakage.Of course any fan will break if an object is wedged between the fan blade and fancase.Its just--will the object give in first or the fan?

 

[floor-a-matic]

I think both clean good; but for the canister person, a TriStar CXL will clean as well as the Kirby & Sanitaire.

 

[kirby]

kirby

i vote the kirby

 

[vacuumfreeeke]

I thought this forum was mainly for vacuum collectors and enthusiasts, not experts... just people who love vacuums... and I don't recall the original poster asking for expert opinions anyway...

I think that the Sanitaires have better, more aggressive agitation (but some would argue that the aggressive agitation can damage carpets), while the Kirbys have better airflow... I like them both equally.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

I once managed an

Oreck store 5 years and owned my own Vacuum Sales and Reapir store 6 years. I am also a collector since the age of 5 (44 now) . I own many High end vacuums and at least one of every vacuum made since I was 5 . I know them all inside and out . What would I be considered ????

 

[gsheen]

Dan  


Your way beyond expert, I think you are one of the most driven collectors I know.


 


I think we are all an expert in our own field. If you like something enough you will learn allot about it and what is an expert? A person who has extreme knowlege on a certain subject. I do not think you have to be an engineer or a vacuum shop owner to be a vacuum expert.


 


The wealth of knowledge that's is on this forum goes beyond expert, take for instance Gottohavehoover ,


If I asked him what color a Hoover 62 is he would be able to tel me what color , trim and date of manufacture that was my point all along. I just went about saying it in the wrong way)If I wanted to know about the orek vacuum i would ask you Dan. If some one wanted to know about dysons they could ask me.


 


Gareth 

 

[broomvac]

Revising original post

scvacuumguy--

Good point. I really should have juxtaposed the two fans BEFORE I posted an over-exaggeration about the fans. I was simply recalling from memory, and the Sanitaire fan always seemed somewhat larger to me. I do believe that the fan blades on the Sanitaire are slightly taller, but I hate to say for sure, because my record has apparently taken a turn for the worse. Its hard to tell, but from the picture you posted the Sanitaire fan seems to be slightly larger in diameter, but it is hard to tell when they are side by side. One thing I do know about the vacuums that I do believe helps with the airflow in the Sanitaire is that the gap from fan to fan housing in the Sanitaire seems narrower as opposed to what seems to be a larger gap from fan housing to fan on my G3. (The base on my S661 is NOT a Quick Clean base, so I cannot say about the gap on the Quick Clean models, but I imagine it is similar.)

So, what could settle this and be helpful would be two pictures:
1. Fans from the side to show blade height.
2. One fan on top of the other to show which is larger in diameter.

 

[scvacuumguy]

Expert= Experience, not just knowledge.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Yay

I am an expert and I am so excited. It really doesn`t matter though as I am very comfortable with myself who ever I choose to be .

 

[brandon_w_t]

Well this thread has taken the awkward turn or two.

After having owned many kirbys (G6, 3 heritage 1 & 2s, Omega, tradition, 518, d80, heritage 1, Diamond Edition, Ultimate G, G3 etc) and several sanitairs (SC888, S677D, etc)

I have come to learn that with my carpet, a sanitaire always seems to get down deeper, and pull up more stuff than the kirbys could. Especially pet hair.

Now the kirby was no bad cleaner or anything. They do what they do, and are great at it. On many kinds of carpet, they can excel. But my carpet at home, its not quite at its best.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Consumer reports

always rated the Eureka uprights with the 6.5 amp motor as the best deep cleaners in the 80`s and 90`s . They always outcleaned the Kirby and I am sure any Sanitaire with at least a 6 amp motor or better would be a deep cleaner even though Kirby is my favorite out of the two .

 

[ralph123]

carpet type

Regarding the debate, for what types of carpeting is there a difference between these 2 vacuums?

 

[baglessball]

Does any body..

Currently own both? Could you stick a carpet sample underneath both machine whilst running as see which draws more air through the carpet and vibrates it more?

Your hand-> the carpet sample-> the cleaner