basic resto/parts question on Hoover Senior?

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Obvious to all here I suspect.

1)

I've seen reference to "after market" drive belts being rubbish. What's a good (cheap!) source of Hoover (or other good) drive belts?

2)

I would like to replace the flex. Looks like a simple job. A 400/600 watt motor has a peak current of 2.5 amps. What rate cable should I get? 2 amp and 6 amp see standard sizes, so I'm guessing 6 amp (0.75mm area)

I note the external diameter of the original cable is 6.3mm and this has to go through a fixture on the handle, so the replacement cable must not be bigger than this.

Any advice welcomed.

BugBear
 
0.75mm minimum is the flex to go for as it has to carry current over a long distance. Also, it's thicker consistency makes it more durable and easier to handle. If you want to go for the over-kill, you can use 1.00mm. The price difference used to be so slim that I only ever stocked 1.00 as so many cleaners needed 1.00mm anyway, due to their high-wattage motors.
 
A good (cheap) sourse of drive belts is Genuine Hoover!! You can get them for about a fiver for a pack of two. Each belt lasts at least 6 months in my experience so it is only £5 a year in belts.
 
>> A good (cheap) sourse of drive belts is Genuine Hoover!! You can get them for about a fiver for a pack of two. Each belt lasts at least 6 months in my experience so it is only £5 a year in belts.

My hoover was fully refurbed (nearly all replaceable parts replaced) by a local repair shop when I bought it, around 12 years ago.

The current belt is from that refurb!!!

BugBear
 
Really!? Has it been in daily use? If so that is incredible - though I'm not entirely surprised as there are exceptions to every rule, and Hoover did make belts of high enough quality to exceed expectations.
 
>>Really!? Has it been in daily use?

You over-estimate the cleanliness of my house...

Carpet vacuuming is fortnightly at best.

BugBear
 
The Belts are the major pain with my Seniors, I just cant get anything other than the original belts to last.
The Qualtex ones as below break within a couple of minutes of use. The photo shows the before and after:

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Indeed, with the round belts the only brand you can really use is Genuine Hoover.

Due to the effort required to turn the brush roll, only the strongest (I.E. Hoover) belts will last any amount of time.

With flat belts it is a different story - since they don't have to work as hard - but round belts wear out quickly at the best of times, let alone with a generic belt made with poorer quality rubber.
 
Yes Jamie - but I would have expected a Qualtex or Electruepart belt to last more than a few minutes in my Juniors or Seniors. The spindles are fine and the brushrolls turn with no resistance so I just cant understand why these belts fail so quickly. I have a limited number of old stock Hoover 652 belts and these last OK, but when they are gone they are gone and the new stocks are very poorly made - I think its because they want people to get rid of old cleaners and buy new ones.
 
You could be right - but then again why would parts-only manufacturers like ElecTruePart and Qualtex want us to scrap our old vacuums?

They really should make better quality belts, but I that's life I guess.

I'm sure Hoover still makes V5 belts though.
 
These might say Hoover on them, but they are made in the Far East for Hoover-Candy, and don't bear much resemblance to the quality of those made by the proper Hoover company in the 70's and 80's before Candy became involved and the company was changed beyond all recognition. Hoover now is nothing like the Hoover of old sadly - its all cheapo PRC made stuff now, and certainly not built like it was in the good old days.
 
I am about to replace the cable; during the work I discovered that the flex ends
are fitted in copper "surrounds" that I've never seen before.

I was expecting soldered ends, or crimped on terminals.

Are these "ends" compulsory, and if so, can I get them from anywhere in small quantities?

BugBear

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I normally strip the cable back until it's long enough to loop around the screw in question, and keep the wire tucked in when doing the screw up.

If there was a crimping tool to replace the ringlets then I would be interested in it!
 

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