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I agree with Adam. This is what I have found. The seperation on the Dyson cyclones is fantastic. I don't think my filters will need washing for 6 months!
 
The Riccar Radience is a superb tandem air bagged vacuum and there are no cyclones or filters to wash. Just remove and throw away the HEPA bag. It contains more dust and dirt than the Dyson ever could.

[this post was last edited: 11/8/2014-16:30]
 
Sorry but I think I'll stick with my Numatic Henry eco model. No dust on a filter to worry about - and buyers these days shouldn't have to even bother being taught about dirty filters. Talk about trying to coerce a sale for the most obvious brand!
 
And you could also say buyers these days shouldn't have to purchase bags and filters. And don't forget Cinetic which all Dysons will probably become will require no washing of filters.
 
Re Old Eureka pic....

Of course its better than anything new...ITS METAL!, and its 80 years old or so, I bet you wont find todays plastivacs running in 80 years!
 
You certainly won't. But I like to change my vacuums every 5 years. I'd find it very boring using the same machine for decades. Yawn yawn :-)
 
I'd find it very boring using the same machine for decad

Marcus, you are a conundrum. One minute you're talking about what the customer wants and then in the same debate you're switching to you personally getting bored with machines. It almost reads like you're being argumentative for the sake of it.

We, as collectors/enthusiasts do not represent what the customer wants. We are far more fussy in that regard and I'd imagine that more customers would agree with Kenkart and want something that will last for years to avoid the inconvenience and expense of having to buy a new one every few years.
 
I'm just giving my opinion Chris people are free to agree or disagree. I love some of those old machines but for the same reason i change my car every few years i also like to change my cleaner. Just my opinion as Kenkart was giving his opinion of modern plastic vacs :)
 
If buyers didn't have to purchase bags and filters for vacuums, they'd still have to buy drive belts if they have an upright.

And you would be scunnered with your allergies if there is no filter to contain any dust escaping!

Of course one might be lucky to own a cylinder vac but you'd still have to wash the filter - the dust that escapes the main chamber has to go somewhere other than out in the room.

Not all Dyson uprights let alone cheap uprights have lifetime drive belts, after all and Im sure it will take an age for the "Dyson Cinetic" to appear on ALL of Dyson's vacs.

As for SEBO washing filters - that will never happen. The brand (and Miele) offer replacement filters to purge the vacuum's main exhaust and therefore refresh the vacuum.

The only washable item SEBO sell is a shake out permanent dust bag for their commercial uprights and not many owners have them because they prefer disposable dust bags.
 
No, I'm not disputing your opinion. Read what I said. I'm pointing out that we do not accurately represent the vacuum buying public, so you can't legitimately say "customers would want this" and then say "I like to do this" in the same debate, because you're not an "average customer". You know more and care more about your vacuum than most.
 
From someone who is trying to sell bagged machines.Not quite an impartial view. I'd say they both have advantages and disadvantages.
 
As I said there are advantages and disadvantages to both bagged and bagless. Some will prefer bagged and that's fine some will prefer bagless that's fine too. Some like both.

Whatever works best for you. :-)))
 
Do you know how thy cleaned carpets and rugs before vacuum cleaners? They either swept them clean or took them outside and beat them. Dust and dirt would fly everywhere.
 
I think Oli is getting at dustbags being a step forward in terms of ease of use and hygiene. Then with the arrival of bagless vacuums, a step backwards and return to "dust clouds", similar to the effect of taking a carpet outside and sweeping/beating it.

Am I right, Oli? Correct me if I'm wrong

Incidentally, with regards to your "Not quite an impartial view" comment, he may not be completely impartial but he didn't say anything that wasn't true.
 
OK we are comparing the dust cloud created when beating a carpet or dusting a floor with a broom to emptying the Dyson bin? Hahahaha shakes head :-)
 
Haha if you like. And I will move on from your ridiculous comparisons of emptying the Dyson bin.

I should upload a video of my method of emptying the bin proving once and for all that I do not come into contact with the dust. It doesn't affect me one bit. :-)))
 
Yes but agreeing with his view.

Anyway I was being balanced in my view saying that there are advantages for both bagged and bagless.

You prefer bagged and that's fine. We shall agree to disagree about bagless :-p
 
Yes but agreeing with his view.

Who the heck said I was agreeing with this view?

Are you having your own conversation in your head?

Read what I said!! I elaborated on, what I thought was, the point was that Oli was making.

I then made a further comment in response to yours regarding the video that sptyks posted.

Nowhere did I say that I agreed or disagreed with Oli's point.

Good god, I get more sense out of the kitchen wall! Starting to think that Shirley Valentine had the right idea!
 
No my point was all of the bickering and near arguing over bags or bagless. To stop it all, I say we get rid of all forms of vacuums and clean our houses and carpets how our ancestors did !
 
Hahaha maybe :-) I don't have a preference actually. If I could get my hands on a Riccar I'd happily use a bagged machine.

I don't want to argue with anyone. Everyone has their own views and there's something to be said for all of them. There's some very nice vacuums out there many I'd like to own. Right now my fav upright in the UK is the Dyson and my fav cylinder is the Miele S8.

Whatever works best for you is fine by me. :-)
 

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