Bagged VS Bagless

[niclonnic]

Oh Super-sweeper...

I don't have a bagged vacuum, so I can't do what you've suggested.

I can't imagine what that Eureka would've looked like back in the day! It is a direct-air system. That vacuum's long gone...

 

[super-sweeper]

You don't have  A WHAT!? Somebody let this kid borrow their Montgomery Ward charge card, we need to show him what he's been missing!! 

 

[niclonnic]

Hahahahaha!

I don't shop at Montgomery Ward! If I had to use a bagged vacuum, I would want to try a Miele S7260 Cat and Dog. It looks nice, but is expensive!

http://www.mieleusa.com/Product/Details/577

 

[kenkart]

Well...

I use my Model G Electrolux with the Automatic control set at 3, when it pops open, I throw away the bag, insert another and continue cleaning, I dont have to worry about loss of power or dirt flying, My 50 year old vacuum takes care of all that...AUTOMATICALLY!

 

[kenkart]

Re Eureka upright..

My 1950 Eureka built Ward's is still running fine....proving one thing, metal is always better than plastic!

 

[super-sweeper]

You don't shop at Wards? that's ANOTHER thing we can change! 

 


Say, here's your chance to try a bagged vacuum, AND shop at Wards! Tell 'em Super-Sweeper sent 'ya! 

http://www.wards.com/Home-Store/Hou...ny-tidymaid-hepa-bag-vacuum.pro?omSource=SLI&

 

[sensotronic]

I have a few bagless cleaners, but the machines I use for regular cleaning when I'm not chucking my bag of filth all over the carpet to demonstrate a vac for my Youtube channel are all bagged.

I recently had a Golden Retriever staying with me who sheds a load of hair, so I used a bagless to clean up after her and I always use a bagless if I have been using Sebo's Duo P cleaning powder. As I don't suffer from any allergies, the dust cloud when emptying a bagless doesn't bother me, but then it is very rare that I actually empty them into a bin as I tend to keep the majority of my dirt to use in demonstrations. I use one bagged cleaner to suck all the dirt out of the bagless bin so my dirt is hygienically stored until I need it for a demo.

So if I had to choose between bagged or bagless, it would be bagged and German every time.

 

[cb123]

I found that bag-less vacuums, generally, work best when they are inside a hefty bag, next to the curb on garbage pickup day....never no complaints, NO, not one!

 

[marcusprit]

As far as filter washing is concerned. What about Dyson Cinetic? Not only no filters to buy no filters to WASH either? Wow how amazing is that?

Dyson i take my hat off to you )))

 

[marcusprit]

And emptying the bin..... I use a bag that is very long in length, i hold the bag very tight around the bin so the dust cannot escape, press the button to open the flap, dump the dirt then seal the bag with a clip. I DO NOT come into contact with the dust. As i've mentioned i am an allergy sufferer and it has not affected me one iota!

And yes bagless machine will inflate the dust but they can't inflate the grit etc that some bagged machines i've used have left behind in my carpets.

Future Dyson models will all be "Cinetic" so no filters to buy or wash. I think that is something Dyson deserves credit for but i doubt they will get it on here.

I am happy to give any company credit when they come out with a good design or innovation

 

[turbo500]

Wow how amazing is that?

Matt, when was the last time you had to wash or replace a filter on your Kirby or your Henry?

 

[marcusprit]

A Kirby is a completely different matter being a direct air motor.

Kirby is a very well built machine and an excellent performer on carpet but we were glad to get rid of ours
The henry is a nice little reliable machine built in the UK. But it is not a deep cleaner.

 

[marcusprit]

But on 99% of bagged cleaners you will have to change the filters.

 

[turbo500]

But it is not a deep cleaner

What has that got to do with filter maintenance? It's still a vacuum cleaner and one that's far better than a lot of other straight suction cylinders available. And it has virtually no filter maintenace, which is the point I was making - I wasn't commenting on the performance of either machine, just the lack of filter-washing required to maintain the machine.

 

[turbo500]

on 99% of bagged cleaners you will have to change the filter

My mother hasn't changed a filter on a vacuum in..well..ever. In the 17 years we had our Panasonic in daily use, it never once had a filter change. The bag went in the bin and that was it. When I got my hands on that cleaner in 2007 when it was finally replaced, the filters weren't all that dirty either, although I did replace them at that point.

Even with all those years without replacing the filter, the performance of the cleaner never dropped to a level that it didn't pick up. Our house was always clean and we vacuumed a lot, having 4 cats.

Filter maintenace on a vacuum really only became a more well known and regular maintenance task when Dyson hit the market and bagless vacuums became more popular. And infact, at the time Dyson launched in 93, dirty fan vacuums with absolutely no filter maintenance at all were still widely available.

 

[marcusprit]

Well on my miele and sebo I'm happy to go by what the manufacturer recommend
Change the filters regularly to maintain peak performance. Filters will become clogged over time. That is a fact my friend.
If you are happy with your smelly bacteria infested bags rotting for months on end then good for you. I prefer to empty mine every week or every clean and wave goodbye to my dirt ))

 

[turbo500]

That is a fact my friend.

Oh, I agree with you there. I'm meant to change the filters on my 2 Sebo's every 10 bags, but 10 bags last for years, per machine, so I change them annually. But you made the point of the Dyson Cinectic being "amazing" and, whilst it's a very clever design, I don't think it's all that amazing for a vacuum to have no filter maintenace. Many vacuums never did and there's still plenty of other vacuums on the market that don't, hence the example I gave you of the Kirby and the Henry.

As I've already said before, I much prefer for all the dust and dirt to be contained in a bag and to not come into contact with it. Whilst there may be bacteria in the bag, it's not escaping from the machine thanks to the S-Class filters and it's call containted within the bag, so I never come into contact with it.

I'd also like to point out that until recently, you were an advid bagged fan. As you've admitted, it's only since buying this DC41mk2 that your opinion has changed, so I find your statements very hyprocritical. Based on your own logic, for all those years you were using a bagged vacuum, was your house dirty and smelly from all that rotting dust in the bag, then?

 

[marcusprit]

Haha yes I am still a bagged fan. I'm just teasing. I do like to be able to empty the dust weekly. All I'm really interested is the best performance easiest to manoeuvre and best filtration I can find. I don't mind if that is a bagged cleaner or bagless.

 

[marcusprit]

The Riccar Brilliance is a machine I'd love to get my hands on. Tandem motors. Now that is a clever design and they use metal parts where needed. I'm really impressed by that machine.

 

[turbo500]

There's a lot of US machine's I'd like to try - Riccar, Rainbow and especially the Aerus-Lux machines.