Another version of the Hoover Sebo Copy

[vacuumfreeeke]

I hate to interrupt a fight with actual discussion, but does this machine come with a dusting brush or is one available for it?

 

[vegassucks]

Tools

I do not know if one is available, it does come with the standard crevice tool and upholstery tool mounted to the back like on the Sebo.

 

[sebo_fan]

Wouldn't it stand to reason to see if the tools fit from the SEBO?

 

[madaboutsebo]

Doesn't look like this Hoover Insight has the integrated wand handle like the SEBO X range has from the pictures on this post!

 

[compamac]

Where can....

I buy this machine?

 

[sebo_fan]

No, they nicked the same design from the older commercial uprights... 360/460 white hose.



http://hoover.com/products/details/ch50100/hoover-commercial-insight-13-bagged-upright/

 

[vegassucks]

Wand handle

The wand handle is not the same, it does work similar. I still am believing the green non-commercial one is a limited release. The manual does not have a model name and the vacuum states patents pending. The shop near me sold the green one out and now only has the commercial version. There are a couple of on-line shops that have them.

It is my understanding that the Sebo x4 brush roll will work in the Hoover, I have ot yet tried it.

I heard that Hoover had 30 plus Sebo's torn apart in the R&D department as they were developing this vacuum.

 

[dysonman1]

Vegassucks

Where did you "hear" that Hoover had "30 plus Sebos torn apart" while developing the Insight?

I work with the R and D department at Tacony and those guys wouldn't need "30 or more" machines to develop a copy of one. Maybe because they are American engineers and graduates of Missouri College of Science and Technology.

Your age isn't in your profile, not sure if you're one of the children we have here, or just a private adult collector. You seem to have many opinions about vacuums you don't own and know nothing about. On the other hand, I actually work at a vacuum cleaner manufacturer and work with the Engineering department and have helped them develop the new Maytag models from the ground up.

All vacuum manufacturers share their 'about to be launched' products with each other. Bet you didn't know that. I got a brand new Kirby G2000 with no serial number, sent to us by Kirby many years ago. We have a warehouse full of brand new vacuums that we put on the Treadmill and test against our current products.

That's how I got to see the Digital Motor Hoover Insight some time ago. I know that it's rare for a collector to actually work with not-yet-launched products, and that's why I'm happy to go to work everyday. I can actually say I'm contributing to the future of vacuum cleaner technology.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Thanks for the info sebo_fan I can see from your pictures now what else they copied! I wish some of these vacuum manufacturers would come up with there own original ideas would make the market a lot more interesting!

 

[sebo_fan]

As a vacuum cleaner collector, I really don't mind who copies who - usually I turn a blind eye or look out that model in particular IF the copied original is no longer made. If someone was to copy the Dyson DC01 with the same look and the same design and put it out tomorrow, I'd probably consider buying it - the DC01 was one of my favourite Dyson models.

BUT, to offer a similar copied model on a design that is STILL selling on the market, AND worse, by THEE COMPANY that were once a major player and one of my favourite classic brands, Hoover have a real cheek. They're lucky the patents on the SEBO have passed their sell by date - but it doesn't necessarily mean its right to do so.

 

[alexhoovers94]

I can't deny the performance and simplicity of my SEBO X4 Extra...But I can't stand them! Lol. Plus, they are far to modern for me, I am stuck in the 90's!

 

[sebo_fan]

Oh well, source yourself an X1 Automatic. : )

 

[vegassucks]

Tacony R&D

If you do work for Tacony R&D Dysonman1, please work on your vacuum handle so people who spend $700 on a vacuum do not have to spend an additional $85 when their handle breaks off in their hand.
Next would be to work on a user name that does not promote your largest worldwide competitor, why would you promote the competition with your user name?

The information came from a dealer, whether it is true or not I could not tell you. Third thing to work on is a $1,500 vacuum that Good Houskeeping can find more than one good thing to say about. I do believe the Riccar/Simplicity line is close to being a Great vacuum, if they only would hire a German engineer to fine tune a few things.

 

[vegassucks]

One of my favorite vacuums

Now this is one good looking vacuum[this post was last edited: 8/6/2013-22:48]

 

[dysonman1]

Why would you tear down the Brilliance, yet say the Synchrony is "best". They're the same vacuum. Our handles have been improved in durability, and all handle upgrades are FREE. Even if the machine is out of warranty. I met James Dyson many years ago, and Dyson is NOT Tacony's competitor. I own one of every model Dyson ever made - and feel James changed the landscape of vacuums. Tacony didn't hire a "yes' man, they hired someone who would help the engineering department create better vacuums. The new Maytag line represents the very best bagged vacuums on the market today. All three models have tested well over 1200 hours on the treadmill test and have had ZERO problems.

 

[vegassucks]

synchrony VS Brilliance

I believe the Synchrony is the best looking vacuum made, not the best. I believe the use of a non-chevron brush roll is the problem that hurts Riccar/Simplicity. Their top of the line vacuum with the Hepa-filter on the side is a joke. There is another item to work on, put the filter inside the vacuum and fix the current cheap holder that holder the filer in place, this should be metal.

My opinion is all bagless vacuums including Dyson are a health hazard, messy and cheaply made. If you want to know more about Dyson vacuums just go into any vacuum repair shop and you will see stacks of them waiting for repairs in the back.

The UK makes great audio equipment, their Vacuum designs? just a lot of hype

 

[sebo_fan]

Um.. Dyson produce in Asia now...as do Hoover TTI in the U.S

Our ONLY British made vacuum cleaner is the fantastic Numatic Henry vacuum.

 

[dysonman1]

Personally, I love Dyson vacuums. Not every model, but the concept. I owned the VERY FIRST Dyson vacuum in the United States. I have the largest private collection of Dysons. James gives me one of every new model he makes, and has done so for years.

That being said, I find faults in his cleaners, as I can do with any vacuum. But I celebrate the great things. Like it or not, he's changed vacuum history, which is something I try to do with every engineering meeting they hold at the Museum. I also get to test every new model, finding flaws before the models get the injection molding made. Our current Maytag models are examples of two years of testing, and our newest "Jiffy maid" bagless upright went through over 13 redesigns before we 'got it right'.

By the way, I rarely sell a Tandem Air upright. I prefer the 7850 model, and think it's the most powerful, best clean air designed upright made today. Too bad it's going to be obsolete when the new Maytag models launch at the end of September, but the new Maytag clean air upright uses the double fan, double ball bearing motor and is definitely an improvement over the 7850 so I'm super stoked to see it launch.

 

[alexhoovers94]

"James gives me one of every new model he makes, and has done so for years."

And i'm the pope.


 


I think what you mean is - James gives you every new model he makes by you going to the store and buying it.


 


Alex.

 

[vegassucks]

Maytag

I am not a fan of the name Maytag on a vacuum but the specs you talk about sound interesting. I know many Americans love the name Maytag, I would like to see the geniuses at Fisher & Paykel design a vacuum.