Aerus, Miele or Sebo?
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luxlover
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i my self would say areus electrolux, there very tought made of heavy duty and there not plastic my local areus dealer said there made of high impact polycarbonate the same thing they uses for the hull of space ships. so its deffently has the durability factor, the only con i can see is canister vac's arnt the most practual if you have to lug them allot.
kirbyvertibles
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Um AERUS totally. I bought a new one in 2003 and have never had a problem with it.
I have used a few different kinds of vacuums, no happy medium...Oreck upright, Hoover and a Miele. My housekeeper seems to not like using any of the machines we have, with the exception of the Miele Delphi Canister, which I brought to my summer home unfortunately. She uses the Oreck now, and is not thrilled. I don't know what to use in a two story townhome with half carpets and half hardwood flooring. The cleaning lady says she likes a canister. While I don't mind them, I find the upright quicker/easier to use when she is not around, but doesn't get under everything obviously. With Aerus, we have dealers that are few and far between, guess looking online might be the way to go, since they seem to be very very expensive brand new.
smith
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As an Aerus dealer I am somewhat biased. However I would have to say Aerus as well. Nobody beats our service. Who else does free pickup and delivery of supplies and repairs? Of course I don't know how close you are to a store, but there should be one somewhat close by. The warranties are some of the best in the industry, and Aerus really stands behind their products.
Yes there is a dealer about 20 min away, however, I know these are good quality machines but I've never heard of them delivering supplies or picking up for service. At least the location I have visited. Nothing intrigued me about the design either, but performance I will give it five stars. Warranty, yes, probably the best I've heard of next to Miele, which is another brand I am familiar with, but the powerhead on those are not as strong for carpeting.
williamr1248
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Rainbow wash
Have any of you Rainbow owners ever used your Rainbow to wash windows?
This works great for me.
Here are steps I use:
(1) do my regular dry vacuuming
(2) dump some of the water out of the basin
(3) snap the new Rainbowjet on the lower wand and do my "wet" floor cleaning
(4) take the remaining floor cleaner concentrate and fill the Rainbow sprayer
(5) sray the window down and use the Rainbow squeegee if it's a large window or the small squeegee on the sofa tool for small windows
(6) when done use the Rainbow suction to pick a little concetrate and it cleanes
the wands,hose and tools.
There is just no mess. I also use the spayer to clean the screens in place. If they are real dirty,you can spray then down,let it sit a few seconds.
Also very easy to clean the window sills and use the crevice tool to suck up the water. Because it takes so little solution I can do several windows before the basin needs to be emptied.
What I like is that you can do all 3 operations with one unit and with the new longer wet/electric hose and electric wands there are no hoses to change.
I also really like the fact that when I am done, I can clean out the Rainbow hose and tools and keep them sanitary.
Have any of you Rainbow owners ever used your Rainbow to wash windows?
This works great for me.
Here are steps I use:
(1) do my regular dry vacuuming
(2) dump some of the water out of the basin
(3) snap the new Rainbowjet on the lower wand and do my "wet" floor cleaning
(4) take the remaining floor cleaner concentrate and fill the Rainbow sprayer
(5) sray the window down and use the Rainbow squeegee if it's a large window or the small squeegee on the sofa tool for small windows
(6) when done use the Rainbow suction to pick a little concetrate and it cleanes
the wands,hose and tools.
There is just no mess. I also use the spayer to clean the screens in place. If they are real dirty,you can spray then down,let it sit a few seconds.
Also very easy to clean the window sills and use the crevice tool to suck up the water. Because it takes so little solution I can do several windows before the basin needs to be emptied.
What I like is that you can do all 3 operations with one unit and with the new longer wet/electric hose and electric wands there are no hoses to change.
I also really like the fact that when I am done, I can clean out the Rainbow hose and tools and keep them sanitary.
williamr1248
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aerus,miele or sebo
Sorry guys. I got this on the wrong thread!
Sorry guys. I got this on the wrong thread!
kirbyloverdan
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I Love
Aerus out of the three Aerus is the best I have the newest Guardian Ultra. I love it and I own many other Aerus/Electrolux vacuums . My family has owned Aerus for many years and have never had a problem . Yes they all pick up and deliver parts bags machines ect. Can`t beat the old fashioned service that no other manufacture does that.Try eBay very good prices I have purchased many machines there new and used .
Upright or canister they are excellent choices.
Aerus out of the three Aerus is the best I have the newest Guardian Ultra. I love it and I own many other Aerus/Electrolux vacuums . My family has owned Aerus for many years and have never had a problem . Yes they all pick up and deliver parts bags machines ect. Can`t beat the old fashioned service that no other manufacture does that.Try eBay very good prices I have purchased many machines there new and used .
Upright or canister they are excellent choices.
sebo_fan
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Evidently AERUS then - our Sebo X1 Automatic lasted 15 years and has since gone on for another 4 years with a family friend. Their uprights are well made, used as daily drivers.
williamr1248
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Aerus,Miele,Sebo
I think I would vote for the Aerus too on the basis of:
(1) durability
(2) easy,simple to use
(3) cost of bags and filters
I am sure our Aerus dealer still gives free pick up and delivery of bags and supplies. I was NOT impressed with the Miele power nozzle in the store but to be fair I have not used one on my own carpets and you would want to take into consideration the short hose on the Miele. I think I would go for an Aerus also if I knew someone else was going to be using the machine. Our Aerus (Lux) has taken falls down a flight of stairs and out the side of the truck onto a cement floor when cleaning the truch with no damage. (I was not using it at the time!)
That is JUST a personel opinion. I have never used the Sebo.
No contest the Aerus is louder than the Miele so that might play into the final choice too.
I think I would vote for the Aerus too on the basis of:
(1) durability
(2) easy,simple to use
(3) cost of bags and filters
I am sure our Aerus dealer still gives free pick up and delivery of bags and supplies. I was NOT impressed with the Miele power nozzle in the store but to be fair I have not used one on my own carpets and you would want to take into consideration the short hose on the Miele. I think I would go for an Aerus also if I knew someone else was going to be using the machine. Our Aerus (Lux) has taken falls down a flight of stairs and out the side of the truck onto a cement floor when cleaning the truch with no damage. (I was not using it at the time!)
That is JUST a personel opinion. I have never used the Sebo.
No contest the Aerus is louder than the Miele so that might play into the final choice too.
Thanks...
I did notice that with the Aerus, it was louder. I find the Miele quiet and more modern looking, however, the shorter hose was noticeable as was the lack of larger power head for wall to wall carpeting use. I believe the Miele is quite durable too, there was website says the do testing to insure quality. I was very impressed with the S7, but its an upright.
I did notice that with the Aerus, it was louder. I find the Miele quiet and more modern looking, however, the shorter hose was noticeable as was the lack of larger power head for wall to wall carpeting use. I believe the Miele is quite durable too, there was website says the do testing to insure quality. I was very impressed with the S7, but its an upright.
smith
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Aerus makes a "muffler" that sits inside the blower under the Afterfilter or Hepa filter that does cut down on the noise some. The older machines did not have it but the new ones do. The part number is 49293.
sebo_fan
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The only machine that SEBO had in the U.S was the C canister vacuum for many years that used the same dust bag as the Windsor Sensor. Quite a few U.S members on You Tube have put videos of the C2.1, C3 etc and then there was the K compact canister. I'd say the C canister is the stalwart SEBO canister of choice, even though the new D series has effectively replaced it.
blackheart
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After giving it some thought
I would have to agree with the majority in terms of usage the Guardian Ultra is the most simple to use, and when you are dealing with outside parties is great. I like the idea of the Sebo too though my experiences with them are fairly limited i feel that they are very well built and clean well.
I would have to agree with the majority in terms of usage the Guardian Ultra is the most simple to use, and when you are dealing with outside parties is great. I like the idea of the Sebo too though my experiences with them are fairly limited i feel that they are very well built and clean well.
kirbylux77
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As much as I may love Electrolux, I would NOT give my vote to the new Aerus vacuums. Of the three, I would pick the Sebo D4 canister. I have a Miele Monte Verde w/SEB217 & Red Velvet w/SEB236, & a Sebo Airbelt C3.1 with ETC PN. Of my Electrolux vacuums, newest ones I have is the 2100 w/PN5 & Grand Marquise w/PN6. I have tried out the Guardian Ultra recently, when I had my AP280 in the shop for repairs....while it was a good vacuum, I was not really that impressed with the suction power or cleaning performance. It was OK, but not on a par with the Miele or Sebo vacuums I own. Plus, it is much louder than either the Sebo or Miele. I also have not been impressed in the past with the wands on Electrolux vacuums....they do have a tendency to burn out & need frequent replacement, as well as the PN neck. They should have stuck with the original Guardian....it had more user-friendly features, & had the features & quality you expect to see on a vacuum worth $2,000.
Sebo, on the other hand, is MUCH better made. The electric wand & PN neck does not have the issue of burning out like Electrolux vacuums do, & it is also a telescopic wand. Suction power on my Airbelt C3.1 is very close to my Mieles, & the new D4 models are supposed to be rated higher than the Mieles, at 110 inches Waterlift, vs 100 inches Waterlift for Miele. The cost of supplies for Sebo vacuums is right in the middle between Electrolux & Miele....not inexpensive like Electrolux bags are, or as easy to find, but certainly not extravagant like Miele supplies are- you can EASILY spend $60 for 1 Miele HEPA filter. Plus the bags on the D4 look to be the biggest of all three vacuums. The main disadvantages the Sebo has would be the lack of availability of generic supplies, & they don't have as much features as Miele or Electrolux vacuums have- you can't get a lighted PN for a Sebo, nor a mini powerbrush like you can for Electrolux, & they have the on/off switch on the PN vs on the handle. Yes, the Miele would be comparable in quality to a Sebo, BUT for me the deciding factor would have to be that Sebo markets the D4 in a commercial version for professional use....you can put all the fancy warranties you want on a vacuum, like Electrolux & Miele do, but the REAL TEST of a vacuum is if it's made to stand up to punishing commercial usage, which the Sebo would definitely be able to handle.
If you do insist on an Electrolux vacuum, though, I would suggest looking at the Perfect C101 metal canister, which is the copy of the Diamond Jubilee & Marquise vacuums. I have heard they have some issues, & they are made in China, but they are better built at $900 with a double-stage motor than the Aerus Classic for $1,000, & based on the one I seen in person, I felt they had reasonable build quality. Plus, their cleaning performance is even better than Miele, Sebo or Electrolux, since their motor pulls 120" Waterlift, & you can find HEPA bags for the Perfect or any Electrolux vacuum for very reasonable prices.
Rob
Sebo, on the other hand, is MUCH better made. The electric wand & PN neck does not have the issue of burning out like Electrolux vacuums do, & it is also a telescopic wand. Suction power on my Airbelt C3.1 is very close to my Mieles, & the new D4 models are supposed to be rated higher than the Mieles, at 110 inches Waterlift, vs 100 inches Waterlift for Miele. The cost of supplies for Sebo vacuums is right in the middle between Electrolux & Miele....not inexpensive like Electrolux bags are, or as easy to find, but certainly not extravagant like Miele supplies are- you can EASILY spend $60 for 1 Miele HEPA filter. Plus the bags on the D4 look to be the biggest of all three vacuums. The main disadvantages the Sebo has would be the lack of availability of generic supplies, & they don't have as much features as Miele or Electrolux vacuums have- you can't get a lighted PN for a Sebo, nor a mini powerbrush like you can for Electrolux, & they have the on/off switch on the PN vs on the handle. Yes, the Miele would be comparable in quality to a Sebo, BUT for me the deciding factor would have to be that Sebo markets the D4 in a commercial version for professional use....you can put all the fancy warranties you want on a vacuum, like Electrolux & Miele do, but the REAL TEST of a vacuum is if it's made to stand up to punishing commercial usage, which the Sebo would definitely be able to handle.
If you do insist on an Electrolux vacuum, though, I would suggest looking at the Perfect C101 metal canister, which is the copy of the Diamond Jubilee & Marquise vacuums. I have heard they have some issues, & they are made in China, but they are better built at $900 with a double-stage motor than the Aerus Classic for $1,000, & based on the one I seen in person, I felt they had reasonable build quality. Plus, their cleaning performance is even better than Miele, Sebo or Electrolux, since their motor pulls 120" Waterlift, & you can find HEPA bags for the Perfect or any Electrolux vacuum for very reasonable prices.
Rob
sebo_fan
Well-known member
Hi Rob
Good of you to share your thoughts. We had a similar thread before I think about the Miele vs Sebo challenge where a few members wondered why the D4 had a lower water lift - even if the stats you supply here are different. The main difference is really that the D series was engineered to offer the biggest amount of cord versus its rivals and with its 2100 watt motor alone (I know the wattages are different in the U.S/Canada but they still apply worldwide to machines in general). Miele have, I think about 6 or 7 metres of cord compared to 12 metres on the SEBO D series - the hoses are also longer, thus not requiring as much movement to the actual body of the vacuum. Miele's default hose lengths are 1.8 metres compared to Sebo's 2.1 metres on the electrified hose and 2.5 metres on the non-electric versions. SEBO's dust bags also measure 5.5 litres compared to Miele's 4.5 litres capacity dust bags.
It is true that whilst SEBO consumables are hard to get, they won't be in a couple of years since the U.S/Canada market is only now beginning to get the full stream of SEBO products available.
There is already a professional model available for the commercial market, but it is a basic, stripped down version called "D Professional" and it lacks the auto cord rewind function, with a plug tail removable plug and cord that has to be manually wound around the machine. It also lacks the PN and just comes with the standard tubing, deluxe heavy use standard 2 way suction only floor head and a 1200 watt motor.
(See http://www.sebo.co.uk/commercial-vacuum-cleaners/professional-d/)
Good of you to share your thoughts. We had a similar thread before I think about the Miele vs Sebo challenge where a few members wondered why the D4 had a lower water lift - even if the stats you supply here are different. The main difference is really that the D series was engineered to offer the biggest amount of cord versus its rivals and with its 2100 watt motor alone (I know the wattages are different in the U.S/Canada but they still apply worldwide to machines in general). Miele have, I think about 6 or 7 metres of cord compared to 12 metres on the SEBO D series - the hoses are also longer, thus not requiring as much movement to the actual body of the vacuum. Miele's default hose lengths are 1.8 metres compared to Sebo's 2.1 metres on the electrified hose and 2.5 metres on the non-electric versions. SEBO's dust bags also measure 5.5 litres compared to Miele's 4.5 litres capacity dust bags.
It is true that whilst SEBO consumables are hard to get, they won't be in a couple of years since the U.S/Canada market is only now beginning to get the full stream of SEBO products available.
There is already a professional model available for the commercial market, but it is a basic, stripped down version called "D Professional" and it lacks the auto cord rewind function, with a plug tail removable plug and cord that has to be manually wound around the machine. It also lacks the PN and just comes with the standard tubing, deluxe heavy use standard 2 way suction only floor head and a 1200 watt motor.
(See http://www.sebo.co.uk/commercial-vacuum-cleaners/professional-d/)
