Dyson Piston

[Vacuum Facts]

It's interesting they put so much of the total time in that talk to the hair care range. Apparently, this area brings in as much money for them as the vacuum cleaners. The V16 was hardly mentioned, which is telling.

 

[frickhelm]

Same for the robovac (including false information regarding competition) that sadly seems to be PICEA ODM model. Pretty sad.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

I was once told that the bigger a company gets, the more badly it's managed. I'm starting to wonder whether Dyson is going that way. They're spread out all over the place and it's not clear how well it's operating, at least at a technical level, internally. The V16 has really opened my eyes. I genuinely don't understand why Dyson would release a product that doesn't perform well. Like, how decisions internally are made based on data, and what data they've used to make their executive decisions. This is the first time I've had reason to lose confidence in them. And I should point out, it doesn't in any way verify all the rabid vacuum enthisiast anti-Dyson haters who never had a good or convincing reason, we're anti facts and anti science, and generally batshit screwballs. But that V16 data was quite a turning point for me. It's really given me difficulty preparing a review, as I really don't know how to manage the brilliant technical innovations (that no one is talking about because they seemingly lack any understanding) with the crappiness of the final product and how that was possible given that I KNOW they know and have solutions to various weaknesses. It's almost like they said, release it anyway. It stinks of a suit rather than a mind, internally.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

including false information regarding competition

Which bit was that out of interest?

 

[cucumbers]

The Gen5 absolutely did draw ~900+ W, so their motors definitely are capable of that. Why would they positively retrograde their core function for so little gain in noise and weight? It doesn't add up

Is there any chance Dyson simply didn't allow older products to discharge as deeply? If the cells they are using in the V16 have a newer chemistry that can continuously supply high currents for longer before excessive wear is an issue, then that may explain some (though probably not all) of the difference in runtimes.

It's unfortunate that it's so difficult to obtain direct power readings.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Well, all I can say is based on the reported run times and battery capacity, their power draw is lower in each mode during carpet cleaning. Suction is lower (also for other reasons) and their resulting cleaning performance is inferior. It's that latter point which is important and shocking to me.

 

[frickhelm]

Which bit was that out of interest?

regarding the stain recognition and this robot is the first or only one to do so (including the cleaning pattern) - 3iRobotix ones (this is a brand from the maybe used ODM Pieca) do so - some iRobot ones (that uses ODMs from Picea) do so - and other brands have similar stain recognition.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

regarding the stain recognition and this robot is the first or only one to do so (including the cleaning pattern) - 3iRobotix ones (this is a brand from the maybe used ODM Pieca) do so - some iRobot ones (that uses ODMs from Picea) do so - and other brands have similar stain recognition.

Ah. As someone unfamiliar with robots, I understood it to be specifically that it detects an approaching stain and then explicitly checks after it has gone over it that it has been removed fully, otherwise it immediately u-turns and goes back over it as demonstrated, and repeats until gone. Is there any video evidence to support that others do specifically this?