hooverjedilord
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Oh I had the purple and magenta one, I didn't like it as the agitation and suction was poor and it clogged to much.
Why don't more UK canisters have Power nozzles?
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oliveoiltinfoil
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There are a handful of PN canisters popping up in the UK at least, and Europe. Sebo are the only vacuum brand in Europe who have never dropped their PN canisters. They have at least had one cylinder model with a PN available. Right now they are 3. AEG now produce a TOL canister with a good looking floorhead, Vax produce two, the air revolve and air silence, and Miele now sell the C3 with a powerhead, so they are coming back, thankfully.
Here in the Finland we have only canister vacuums and 99,5 percent is straight suction. Some top models come with the turbo brush. I think AEG/Electrolux UltraOne is the only model what comes with the powerhead. One model with the small powerhead and one model with the full size ph.
We still have a lot of rugs in our homes, but no wall to wall carpeting. People are just cleaning rugs with the straight suction and banging rugs outside to get all the grit out.
But I didn't give up. I made wiring for the powerhead to my Electrolux UltraPerformer/UltraActive. It was cheaper (vac 150€ ph 100€) than buying vac with the powerhead.
We still have a lot of rugs in our homes, but no wall to wall carpeting. People are just cleaning rugs with the straight suction and banging rugs outside to get all the grit out.
But I didn't give up. I made wiring for the powerhead to my Electrolux UltraPerformer/UltraActive. It was cheaper (vac 150€ ph 100€) than buying vac with the powerhead.
sptyks
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I would think wall to wall carpet would be more popular in Finland as it helps insulate your home from cold weather in winter.
sebo_fan
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Whoops here we go again regarding carpet.
Interesting blog piece here..
The article goes onto highlight special areas of rivers that the Finnish have developed for purely washing rugs. How environmentally cool is that?
http://www.dirtycarsmillioncows.com/blog/carpets-finnish-way/
Interesting blog piece here..
The article goes onto highlight special areas of rivers that the Finnish have developed for purely washing rugs. How environmentally cool is that?
http://www.dirtycarsmillioncows.com/blog/carpets-finnish-way/
sptyks
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Well there seems to be quite a cultural difference here! But this is the way I was brought up. On those cold Maine sub zero nights, WtoW helped keep or home warm and cozy.
I dont know of anyone that has w to w carpet in their bathroom or kitchen. Tile, wood or linoleum is most commonly used there.
But washing all your rugs outside seems not only nasty to me, but also a royal pain in the butt.
Why not have WtoW and use a Top of the Line upright vacuum to keep it as fresh as newly installed?
fantomlightning
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I've...
Only ever seen one home with carpet in both the bathrooms and kitchen, it's my grandparents home. Commercial grade in the kitchen (still idiotic), and the bathrooms have tile around the bath and toilet, the rest is carpet. I don't really get the unhygienic thing. W2W will act as an indoor air filter, with a decent vacuum it's not hard to remove most all dust, and then you use hot water extraction to clean everything else... I'd just really like to see more in depth as to why that thought has developed. Just because you can't take it down to the river to be cleaned doesn't mean it can't be done. Seems like the type of irrationality I usually expect from America.
Only ever seen one home with carpet in both the bathrooms and kitchen, it's my grandparents home. Commercial grade in the kitchen (still idiotic), and the bathrooms have tile around the bath and toilet, the rest is carpet. I don't really get the unhygienic thing. W2W will act as an indoor air filter, with a decent vacuum it's not hard to remove most all dust, and then you use hot water extraction to clean everything else... I'd just really like to see more in depth as to why that thought has developed. Just because you can't take it down to the river to be cleaned doesn't mean it can't be done. Seems like the type of irrationality I usually expect from America.
fantomlightning
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Yeah, I don't disagree with that. There are certainly areas where carpeting just does NOT belong. But for most living areas it's fine.
vintagerepairer
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I agree that carpets act as a filter. My place was hard floors throughout when I arrived and I hated it. My dust was forever airbourne. At least the carpet held onto it until it was time to vacuum.
fantomlightning
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That's exactly why I started keeping a robotic vacuum to run every day. My home is, as one person said "striped". It goes hard floor, carpet, hard floor, carpet, hard floor. From front to back, when the cats start shedding there are tumbleweeds of cat hair rolling across the hard floors if they aren't cleaned daily. So I set the Roomba down, hit start and walk away.
sebo_fan
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Finland and most of Scandinavia are incredibly energy and environmentally friendly. Certainly if you have ever gone to an IKEA store you can see where they get their inspiration from. Not only that, but they like their real fire places or wood burning stoves where the heat in the home hovers all around. No wonder they prefer insulation; out of view, out of mind.
In Scotland carpet is a must to insulate a home in MOST areas of Scotland unless they're lucky enough to get warmer weather all of the year.
But in areas such as bathroom, toilet, kitchen and even a utility room where laundry takes place, hard floors/lino are a necessity.
I have said this before though and I will say it again - I think the reason why UK prefer uprights over canisters with PNs is simply because we have been brainwashed by Hoover and other brands that an upright beats carpet whereas a canister vac gets the dirt above the floor line.
Also helped along by the fact that the "cylinder leaders," Miele have seldom offered a cylinder vac with a PN in the UK again since the days of the Revolution model.
Clearly things are changing now with other brands offering PN's over SEBO who were one of the first brands to offer a PN with a cylinder/canister.
Still though, I prefer a straight suction cylinder vac. Im used to them being lightweight from hose to floor head. The SEBO K3 Premium may well be a light and compact vac by design, but I find the Felix upright to be far more nimble at getting around my home even when it uses the same PN.
In Scotland carpet is a must to insulate a home in MOST areas of Scotland unless they're lucky enough to get warmer weather all of the year.
But in areas such as bathroom, toilet, kitchen and even a utility room where laundry takes place, hard floors/lino are a necessity.
I have said this before though and I will say it again - I think the reason why UK prefer uprights over canisters with PNs is simply because we have been brainwashed by Hoover and other brands that an upright beats carpet whereas a canister vac gets the dirt above the floor line.
Also helped along by the fact that the "cylinder leaders," Miele have seldom offered a cylinder vac with a PN in the UK again since the days of the Revolution model.
Clearly things are changing now with other brands offering PN's over SEBO who were one of the first brands to offer a PN with a cylinder/canister.
Still though, I prefer a straight suction cylinder vac. Im used to them being lightweight from hose to floor head. The SEBO K3 Premium may well be a light and compact vac by design, but I find the Felix upright to be far more nimble at getting around my home even when it uses the same PN.
sebo_fan
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Parwaz - I also have a mat by the kitchen sink. Stops me sliding when I am washing the dishes.
And the mat is machine washable and small enough to be put in a washing machine.
And the mat is machine washable and small enough to be put in a washing machine.
Cool, nice to know we are not the only ones lol 
Ours is a rubber backing and measurea approx 50CM X1 metre. Its difficult to vacuum with any machine because all of them have powerful suction and just gets either lifted up or moved round
Ours is a rubber backing and measurea approx 50CM X1 metre. Its difficult to vacuum with any machine because all of them have powerful suction and just gets either lifted up or moved roundfantomlightning
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I get that they're environmentally friendly, and that their homes to start are much better insulated. But what exactly does that have to do with their view of carpet as unsanitary? Even on the environmental side of things, unless you're talking cleaning hard floors with a Floormate vs cleaning a carpet with hot water extraction I doubt there's that much of a water usage difference. The story may be different on the manufacturing side on carpet vs hard flooring, but that I'm not too sure about.
sebo_fan
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Well the industry might be different there Fantom. Not all countries use electrical appliances to clean floors. A lot still use brooms, feathery brooms or just wet mopping for hard floors.
I can't answer why that blog poster states that having carpets in a home is unsanitary. It might be the way in that country alone, just like the preference to uprights for carpet cleaning in the UK versus cylinder vacs with PNs.
I can't answer why that blog poster states that having carpets in a home is unsanitary. It might be the way in that country alone, just like the preference to uprights for carpet cleaning in the UK versus cylinder vacs with PNs.
fantomlightning
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It's not, from the research I've done it appears at the very least Sweden is the same way. I'm guessing there are more than just those two.
oliveoiltinfoil
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I do agree, carpeting is just much nicer. It is easier on your joints as well, for anyone because it is softer and more absorbent. It makes a room quieter and warmer and also stays cleaner for longer. Washing a hard-floor and then 5 minutes later it has mark all over it is so depressing, constantly keeping on top of it. In the kitchen hardflooring is a must as spills are quickly mopped up, and of course in the bathroom where water splashes and it is a place of high humidity.
However, to properly maintain carpets, the second best thing you can invest in is a carpet washer, and a good one like a Bissell Big Green. A commercial type. Most other carpet washer are just not powerful enough and leave water in the carpet, but using a powerful and effective carpet cleaner 2 or 3 times per year will keep your carpets in top condition. It doesn't matter if you have a Kirby or a Vax, vacuuming only cleans so much in a carpet. Dirt clings onto fibres which can only be extracted using detergent, like your clothes. No one vacuums there clothes all the time to keep them clean and never wash them ?
I know some will say that washing carpets is bad, as does Mr Dyson, but speak to some carpet fitters. Quite often, especially these days where a lot of carpet is made from man-made fibres, they recommend you wash the carpets at least once a year. Some of them even say you can do it with one part bleach 10 part water, and the dye in carpets now is much stronger and more durable. Carpets will not shrink so long as you don't over saturate them. I have been washing our carpets for a few years now and they haven't shrunk or ruined in anyway, they just look the same colour as when they were first laid down.
However, to properly maintain carpets, the second best thing you can invest in is a carpet washer, and a good one like a Bissell Big Green. A commercial type. Most other carpet washer are just not powerful enough and leave water in the carpet, but using a powerful and effective carpet cleaner 2 or 3 times per year will keep your carpets in top condition. It doesn't matter if you have a Kirby or a Vax, vacuuming only cleans so much in a carpet. Dirt clings onto fibres which can only be extracted using detergent, like your clothes. No one vacuums there clothes all the time to keep them clean and never wash them ?
I know some will say that washing carpets is bad, as does Mr Dyson, but speak to some carpet fitters. Quite often, especially these days where a lot of carpet is made from man-made fibres, they recommend you wash the carpets at least once a year. Some of them even say you can do it with one part bleach 10 part water, and the dye in carpets now is much stronger and more durable. Carpets will not shrink so long as you don't over saturate them. I have been washing our carpets for a few years now and they haven't shrunk or ruined in anyway, they just look the same colour as when they were first laid down.
