Which Vacuums Feb 2014 UK

[hi-loswitch98]

Sorry, will have to pass.

Why did you suddenly decide to not buy any more Vacuums from Vax/Hoover?

 

[sebo_fan]

What are you planning to buy HiLO/What is stopping you from buying Miele?

 

[hi-loswitch98]

All will be revealed in good time - but I think it will be a Bosch.

What stopped me from buying Miele was the Short Cord, I know that they are good machines with low noise & really good manufacturing but they don't appeal to me the same way they appeal to you.

 

[madabouthoovers]

The other week, I bought a brand new model from Argos, the Vax Performance floor to floor upright. It is based on the Zoom body, but has a split head with separate air channel at the front of the brushroll compartment. The wheels are noisy and clattery, the head wont lift off the carpet in the upright position so using the hose involves the carpet getting scorched by the brushroll. Such fundamental design faults have pissed me off with Vax. Its a lovely looking vac, but again let down by silly flaws. The business with the clogging cyclones on the Hoover Turbopower canister are another case in point, bad design and poor testing.


Why should I keep wasting money on Chinese rubbish when I could get far better for my money from Germany?


Time after time,  I keep hoping Vax will improve, but they just don't. Cheap and cheerful vacs for the masses who just want a vac for a year or so, are just not for me any more.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I had to repair a Vax Power 2 Upright - GOD ARE THEY AWFUL.

Such a poor design, the brushroll wasn't turning so after taking out 6 screws, including one to remove the height adjustment knob, I open it up & find the belt still intact, not stretched, just that there was dirt clogged around the brush so tightly it stopped moving. Now what does that tell you? The suction inlet is too small & Vax carry on selling machines like this to people who think that when it stops sucking up the dirt they think 'Oh, I might aswell go out & buy a new one instead of figure out what's wrong with this'. It's all a waste of money, the filters are too expensive, belts are fiddly to replace & to top it all off there is no dusting brush supplied & they're too bloody noisy.

I don't blame you Steve - Hoover are only slightly better.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well Im not entirely sure what you're after. I buy vacuums for their performance and design. I am hesitant to ask what your criteria is, if it is different than mine. However I know you go in for the "marketing speak" so lets just dispel a few truths:

"...It has a long-life compressor motor with aerodynamic blades and perfectly calibrated air flow, providing you with optimal dust pick-up at a low energy consumption level. All parts are optimised to achieve highest performance and comfortable handling, from the top quality floor tool to the soft-grip carry handle..."

Roughly translated as - quiet-ish German made motor with variable suction control and a heavier floor head to compensate Eco version. All parts aren't optimised as they lack the locks that Miele and SEBO provide on their cylinder vacs. Thus unless you jam the tubes on from the handle to the floor head, you'll have fun trying to remove them all if using the hopeless 2 cleaning tools you do get and if you don't jam the floor head on tightly, it is liable to move about..."

Well, whatever you decide on I WOULD SUGGEST that you actually visit John Lewis because they sell both the AEG that you asked about and the Bosch models. I'm about to submit my review online about the Bosch GL-50 bagged cylinder vacuum and as you know it isn't about to be a bed of roses.

The newer BSGL3000 series is compact and not as noisy as other brands - however, none of the Bosch bagged vacuums have a dust brush (here is where Wilko's various brushes including their Electrolux Butterfly brush tool would be good as it comes with a 35mm brush adaptor) their smaller cleaning tool consisting of the upholstery lint picker tool is hopeless and a cheap afterthought whilst the crevice tool is a short stubby affair similar to Miele but lacking quality.

Sure, you do get a "long" 8 metre cord, but like SEBO its a pull-pull cord, which means around corners, if the cord gets stuck under doors, it is liable to re-activate and either weaken the plug in long term use, or pull the cord back, thus pull the vacuum cleaner back. The hose is also shorter on the Bosch.

Already, I do hope you can read between the lines as to what my review of the Bosch GL50 will also reveal - and that's supposed to be Bosch's TOL bagged cylinder vac!

 

[madabouthoovers]

When Argos write to me asking me to review the Vax Performance Total Home, I'll be writing a damning report on it, and as it will probably be the first one to be published as its a new model, they may not publish it on the Argos website as it will put people off buying one. It will be going on Gumtree in due course too. I'd like to take it back but I've  used it now and they know my face to well for returning vacs before lol

 

[sebo_fan]

Thing is, from what you've said about that Vax, it doesn't sound like they use all the same kind of brush rolls - the one thing I liked about the Vax Mach Air is that the bristles on the brush bar are very soft and of course having the clips on top made it super easy to open up and clean off wrapped up threads.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I wasn't looking at the Bosch you've reviewed & I don't tend to fall for the marketing speak as much now, I had never even looked at the Pro Energy model. That might have had a WHICH? Best Buy, but I don't like it.

Sadly I have no John Lewis near me, I would like to know however where the AEG/Electrolux UltraOne is made.

 

[sebo_fan]

OH WELL, no more advice from me. Good luck with whatever you buy. I don't know why I am wasting my time. Off to play with my Miele.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

sebo_fan, I take your advice on board. I listen to it, it's just that I wasn't considering purchasing THAT model of Bosch.

 

[sebo_fan]

Another surprise from the Which report is a lack of those Morphy Richards/Clarity/Shark uprights. I'd have thought Which would have considered some of them.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

I popped into my local Euronics Dealer today & saw the Vacuum I am hopefully going to buy - the Bosch BGL3522GB. It's a made in Germany model, has a HEPA filter & had a look in the shop, it's lightweight & I like the hose design, much more durable than plastic hoses Bosch use on their other vacuums.

 

[sebo_fan]

Um, hate to break your bubble - the material is an outer layer on the hose - the plastic is underneath.

As they are properly known as, the "MOVE" series have been a very popular vacuum on the continent - the colour and the hoses may well have something to do with it.

Its a pity that they have fixed rear wheels. The castors that Bosch fit on their other models are far more nimble and space efficient. At least Bosch have fitted rubber to the Move models though.

 

[adamthemieleman]

Now now fellas, let's not get hasty.
Hi lo, the ultraone is made along with other 'premium' electrolux machines ie ultracaptic, ultraperformer and ultrapower in their Hungarian factory.
They're really not bad.

Unlike the V word, don't get me started. I see so many of them come back faulty, it's beyond belief. I also have many customers telling me they have so many problems. A customer said they had a vax cylinder for 6 weeks and could not stand it. They replaced it with a DC39. I was with a chap just before that who wanted a Power 7. I informed him that vax are not good machines. I don't think he believed me until the other couple said to him theyre dreadful for clogging up all the time!

My cousin had the power 5 pet, to clean up after a moulting cat. The vac constantly got clogged with cat hair in the cyclone which isn't easy to do. The hose is poor quality and regularly became kinked.

They recently replaced it with good old Henry.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

Oh, the hose should be durable enough.

Thank you Adamthemieleman, I haven't had the chance to get to a store that sells the UltraOne, do you sell many of them?

 

[madabouthoovers]

I agree about the Vax power canisters - I have the Power 6 Pet, and although the hose is long it does feel cheap and nasty, along with the turbo brush large floorhead which is also pretty cack. However, the Vax machines are not in the same league as Dysons, so you cant compare them really, as the price differential is huge, and many people cant afford a Dyson, so don't have much choice other than to buy a Vax.


I cannot comment on Bosch cleaners as I don't own any - only a Siemens Z6, which is essentially a re-badged Bosch BSGL50, and that is an old model now, being OK to use, but I re-boxed it and haven't used it since testing it, as they are quite rare here and I want to keep it in as-new condition.

 

[sebo_fan]

Bosch GL-50 you say? That's what I bought from Euronics in April. Awful, awful, awful! Great weight, long power cord and main body design, everything else was a major disappointment.

Adam - the major difference with AEG, especially the ones you mention are the fact that they are quite expensive - no wonder then that you've had Vax products returned - they're mega cheap and Vax know it all too well.

Our local Currys in Scotland used to get a lot of Hoover Purepowers coming in - breakages were common and I think the store got fed up of them coming back.

http://members.dooyoo.co.uk/vacuum-...-floor-vacuum-cleaner-moonlight-blue/1741867/

 

[madabouthoovers]

I don't think all Bosch vacuums are made in Germany - I could swear I saw one with a label on that said made in Turkey?


Samsung are manufacturing the new bagless Motion Sync models that appear in Currys - in Vietnam. Its a race to the bottom, to manufacture these machines in the cheapest way possible, in countries that have the cheapest labour - that's why Dyson sacked his UK manufacturing staff and moved all production off to Malaysia. I wonder how many Malay people can afford to buy a Dyson?


Dyson is raking it in, produce the new DC54 in the far East for peanuts then sell it for a small fortune! He's a VERY rich man thanks to his clever marketing and duping the public to buying his cheap quality plastic junk and paying through the nose for it.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

The Bosch I'm looking at has 'Made in Germany' written on it. I know the 'Power Silence' Pleated Filter Bagless models are made in P.R.C. though.