Which? artcile - "Should you trust the new vacuum cleaner energy labels"?

[sebo_fan]

As for Best Buys: I have put "page" numbers here to show the ones in order. Which haven't made it easy in terms of actual models listed, probably to prevent people from uploading them freely on the net. Apologies for the scans, if you can't read the info.

The following models from Which from 2015 consist of:

 

[sebo_fan]

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[sebo_fan]

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[sebo_fan]

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[sebo_fan]

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[sebo_fan]

Finally page 6

 

[sebo_fan]

Now for the Which don't buys....

Page 1

 

[sebo_fan]

Sadly I don't trust Which either. They have also released reliability charts for vacuums ,which have not yet been published online to my knowledge but certainly do appear in the January 2015 magazine.

They haven't been able to explain how Miele have managed to get a number 1 spot for upright vacuums based on their amount of vacs tested in the chart, let alone the fact that the Miele S7 was only released in the UK 2008/9 compared to SEBO who have been around a lot longer and where some other models have been best buys. Which only claim they have had "one best buy" in a SEBO upright category.

Clearly they still favour Miele over most other brands. Nothing has changed in the last two years where Miele favouritism and Which are concerned.

I have a couple of Miele vacs any way! None of them are the uprights though!

 

[sebo_fan]

Whoops forgot about page 2 don't buys from Which.

 

[sensotronic]

Thanks for that Nar. I don't think I'll be subscribing to Which? any time soon. I know the Sebo X1 had a best buy, but it was a long time ago.

 

[sebo_fan]

I signed up again/re-joined to get info on other things other than vacuums; they have also tested a few washing machines and dryers as well as a few other things.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

How on earth does a DC25 have a higher rating than a Felix ? Also, how can they give best buys to straight suction cylinders? I have no doubt that for attachments and hardfloor use they are good but for carpets medium pile upwards with pet hair and dust, how can that be better than a motorised powerhead?

Anyway, I will be sticking with my Felix Vogue eco as my daily driver. Love my Sebo. Hop to get an E series in the near future though !

I would give Good house keeping institute more merit as they also measure the quality of products as well as their functionality, and most SEBO are GHI approved.

 

[sebo_fan]

It takes all sorts to get a Best Buy, Oli. Whilst collectors sometimes know better, not all homes have medium short pile or quality wool. Whilst I agree with Which mainly that Miele do know how to make vacuum cleaners, I don't agree with a lot of their findings.

In 2011 they slated a lot of Miele cylinder vacs because of a difference of filtration quality. It was too confusing and not fairly judged.

But at the same time, the SEBO K and D are not exactly available everywhere, until possibly this year with Argos and John Lewis re-stocking the brand. Same with the Felix - only a fair selected number of sellers have the Felix on their books, compared to the more widespread availability of Miele and other brands.

 

[marcusprit]

Haha totally agree Oliver and yes they take different aspects into account but personally I think Miele must be paying them an awful lot of money!Yes Miele are very good but straight suction on carpet is top of the list? I don't get that one.

 

[marcusprit]

Miele cylinders are excellent if you have mostly hard floors but if your home is mostly carpets then Sebo and Dyson uprights will be much better suited.

 

[turbo500]

I've been using the Miele with the air driven turbobrush pretty much exclusively for the past month, and I have to say, it's far more convenient to use than an upright and the carpets are just as clean.


 


Having said that, we have quite hard wearing carpets. There are far too many variables to take into account when rating vacuums, because no one house has the same type of flooring all the way through, so every house is suited to different machines.


 


The awards given by Which? are probably spot on for their test carpets, but that's not an accurate representation of performance in someone's home.

 

[marcusprit]

Hmmmm I'd much prefer an upright and I find the noise of a turbo brush very annoying. I do have a miele S5 and S8 and a turbo brush and accu nova battery powered but for me on carpet it's an upright.

 

[turbo500]

There are more bagged cylinders sold around the world than any other type of vacuum. The UK is the only country that I know of that uprighs dominate. From what I know, the US and Australia are pretty 50/50 on uprights vs. cylinders, although powernozzle cylidners are far more popular in both than in the UK.

 

[marcusprit]

Well I think in British homes with wall to wall carpeting uprights are best suited. Cylinders are great on hard floors and above floor cleaning. Yes in America power heads are very popular but in this country they don't sell in numbers because they are too expensive and an upright will do the job perfectly.

 

[Mike81]

Yes! If a straight suction canister can get A rating on carpets is what makes those ratings look useless to me. For my experience it just doesn't make any sense.
I have been using a lot turbo brushes and those are okay and definitely big improvement over the straight suction. Noise is quite awful indeed and on thick carpets turbo brushes tend to struggle.
I went for the extreme length to get powerhead work in my vacs. I have done this to 3 vacuums