Which? artcile - "Should you trust the new vacuum cleaner energy labels"?

[sebo_fan]

I signed up again/re-joined to get info on other things other than vacuums; they have also tested a few washing machines and dryers as well as a few other things.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

How on earth does a DC25 have a higher rating than a Felix ? Also, how can they give best buys to straight suction cylinders? I have no doubt that for attachments and hardfloor use they are good but for carpets medium pile upwards with pet hair and dust, how can that be better than a motorised powerhead?

Anyway, I will be sticking with my Felix Vogue eco as my daily driver. Love my Sebo. Hop to get an E series in the near future though !

I would give Good house keeping institute more merit as they also measure the quality of products as well as their functionality, and most SEBO are GHI approved.

 

[sebo_fan]

It takes all sorts to get a Best Buy, Oli. Whilst collectors sometimes know better, not all homes have medium short pile or quality wool. Whilst I agree with Which mainly that Miele do know how to make vacuum cleaners, I don't agree with a lot of their findings.

In 2011 they slated a lot of Miele cylinder vacs because of a difference of filtration quality. It was too confusing and not fairly judged.

But at the same time, the SEBO K and D are not exactly available everywhere, until possibly this year with Argos and John Lewis re-stocking the brand. Same with the Felix - only a fair selected number of sellers have the Felix on their books, compared to the more widespread availability of Miele and other brands.

 

[marcusprit]

Haha totally agree Oliver and yes they take different aspects into account but personally I think Miele must be paying them an awful lot of money!Yes Miele are very good but straight suction on carpet is top of the list? I don't get that one.

 

[marcusprit]

Miele cylinders are excellent if you have mostly hard floors but if your home is mostly carpets then Sebo and Dyson uprights will be much better suited.

 

[turbo500]

I've been using the Miele with the air driven turbobrush pretty much exclusively for the past month, and I have to say, it's far more convenient to use than an upright and the carpets are just as clean.


 


Having said that, we have quite hard wearing carpets. There are far too many variables to take into account when rating vacuums, because no one house has the same type of flooring all the way through, so every house is suited to different machines.


 


The awards given by Which? are probably spot on for their test carpets, but that's not an accurate representation of performance in someone's home.

 

[marcusprit]

Hmmmm I'd much prefer an upright and I find the noise of a turbo brush very annoying. I do have a miele S5 and S8 and a turbo brush and accu nova battery powered but for me on carpet it's an upright.

 

[turbo500]

There are more bagged cylinders sold around the world than any other type of vacuum. The UK is the only country that I know of that uprighs dominate. From what I know, the US and Australia are pretty 50/50 on uprights vs. cylinders, although powernozzle cylidners are far more popular in both than in the UK.

 

[marcusprit]

Well I think in British homes with wall to wall carpeting uprights are best suited. Cylinders are great on hard floors and above floor cleaning. Yes in America power heads are very popular but in this country they don't sell in numbers because they are too expensive and an upright will do the job perfectly.

 

[Mike81]

Yes! If a straight suction canister can get A rating on carpets is what makes those ratings look useless to me. For my experience it just doesn't make any sense.
I have been using a lot turbo brushes and those are okay and definitely big improvement over the straight suction. Noise is quite awful indeed and on thick carpets turbo brushes tend to struggle.
I went for the extreme length to get powerhead work in my vacs. I have done this to 3 vacuums

 

[marcusprit]

And if you're getting a power head cylinder make sure it has a good warranty. Mieles C3 PN model is priced at £600 and only 2 year warranty! They won't sell over here!

 

[turbo500]

They won't sell over here!

The Miele Revolution used to retail for around £250-£300, if Miele dropped the price a bit, I suspect they'd sell more.


 


I have noticed that nowhere seems to be stocking the powernozzle C3, so Miele could be making them to order hence the higher price.

 

[marcusprit]

I have seen them for £550 in Freenet. The reason they stopped the Miele revolution which I like a lot is because the didn't sell in numbers. Saw Mieles in Tesco today. Didn't realise they stocked them and Bosch

 

[turbo500]

The Revolution used to sell quite well. I've seen for more Revolution 500's than 5000's. One of the catalogues stocked them for a few years in the mid-late 90's. Possibly GUS. But they really marketed the powernozzle on it. They were still pricey though and after the S5 Revolution came out, the price went up even more. Your average customer couldn't justify the price difference between the Revolution and the Cat & Dog/Solution.


 


I'd absolutely love to get a powernozzle C3, but it's going to have to be something to save for. We're off on holiday for 2 weeks in October and that hasn't cost as much as one of those does!

 

[marcusprit]

I just don't see how they justify the price. I'd love to see what the mark up is. Plus you can't change the brushroll as far as i'm aware so what happens when it wears? And if you need repairs outside the warranty that's gonna cost a fortune too!
I'd go for the Sebo D4 premium or new E3 over Miele far better value.

I so need a holiday!!!! :-(

 

[turbo500]

Oh, absolutely agree - the Sebo is far better value. Only problem with the D4 is that it's huge. I mean, it really is a tank of a vacuum. The powerhead is big too. So if you're wanting a compact cleaner but with a powernozzle, you're screwed.


 


The K series with the powernozzle would be a good choice though. Or the E series when it arrives.


 


Tell me about it, I haven't been on holiday in years! Check out teletext holidays online, they had some really good value deals when I last looked.

 

[marcusprit]

I will do or have a word with daddy who is manager of Thomas Cook

 

[sensotronic]

I take it by "daddy" you mean your father as daddy has another connotation in certain circles

 

[turbo500]

I take it by "daddy" you mean your father

Baaahahaha. I did think exactly the same thing.


 


DILF! SUGAR DADDY!!

 

[marcusprit]

Hahahaha! Just googled it.

 

[marcusprit]

I'm told there's a few daddies on here

 

[sensotronic]

So that's why you joined Vacuumland!

 

[marcusprit]

Hahahaha no I was told after I joined.

 

[sensotronic]

How fortunate!

 

[marcusprit]

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