sebo_fan
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Whoops - meant to ask - how can you tell if a condenser dryer has a heat pump?? I mean to say, that if I went into an electrical shop, is there a clear way to find out condensers that have heat pumps?
vacuum enthusiasts: what's your choice of washer and dryer?
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turbo500
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Ry, as far as I'm aware, heat pump dryers are the only dryers that come with an A energy rating. That should give it away.
sebo_fan
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Ah thank you !
vacbear58
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Heat pump drier
Well, nearly one year on, I am still satisfied with the Beko drier. As I said before I try and line dry my clothes where possible but this year, for one reason and another, I have probably used the drier more than previously, I would guess I have done about 40 loads since I bought it.
One way to tell a heat pump drier is that they tend to be a bit more expensive than the "standard" condenser driers across a manufacturer's range. I still think the Beko was good value as it was cheaper than some vented models (such as Miele) never mind condenser driers.
One thing that surprised me though was that I have a circa 1980 Philips drier (vented) in my laundry collection which I have used on a couple of occasions - both times when I was using the old machines (which tends to generate a LOT of laundry) and I was surprised how well it worked - although it was outside when I used it
Al
Well, nearly one year on, I am still satisfied with the Beko drier. As I said before I try and line dry my clothes where possible but this year, for one reason and another, I have probably used the drier more than previously, I would guess I have done about 40 loads since I bought it.
One way to tell a heat pump drier is that they tend to be a bit more expensive than the "standard" condenser driers across a manufacturer's range. I still think the Beko was good value as it was cheaper than some vented models (such as Miele) never mind condenser driers.
One thing that surprised me though was that I have a circa 1980 Philips drier (vented) in my laundry collection which I have used on a couple of occasions - both times when I was using the old machines (which tends to generate a LOT of laundry) and I was surprised how well it worked - although it was outside when I used it
Al
2011hoover700
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I've been wanting a hoover twin tub for a few years now however I have a question about the unitds withe built in fill spouts, Can they provide a hot rinse if like if I turn the water on hot? Also, I currently have a pull out faucet in my kitchen could I fill such units that way?
Hope to get one soon
2011hoover700
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Hope to get one soon
2011hoover700
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spiraclean
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Benny,
As an example of electrical loading, the Bosch heat pump I'm looking at right now has a maximum electrical loading of 1 kW. As per the energy label test, cycle time for a 7 kg load is 178 minutes, with a total energy consumption of 1.65 kW. Checking around the web, other heat pump models come in with roughly similar figures.
In reality, I would expect the cycle time and energy consumption to be lower, and the same goes for any other type of dryer. The energy label test criteria stipulates a 1000 rpm spin, whereas very few washers nowadays spin at less than 1200 rpm. And a "full" load usually weighs nowhere near the stated capacity of the machine, because real laundry items vary significantly in weight and bulk.
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Al,
Just had a read through your thread, very informative thanks. There are some short reviews on the web, but it's much more helpful to hear from someone who has really put a machine through its paces over a longer period of time.
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2011hoover700,
A Hoovermatic fills by simply connecting the hose to the sink tap, so it will take whatever temperature water you decide to give it. The fill spout is just an alternative to manually aiming the hose into the machine, but if you choose not to use it, a pull-out sink sprayer will accomplish exactly the same job.
As an example of electrical loading, the Bosch heat pump I'm looking at right now has a maximum electrical loading of 1 kW. As per the energy label test, cycle time for a 7 kg load is 178 minutes, with a total energy consumption of 1.65 kW. Checking around the web, other heat pump models come in with roughly similar figures.
In reality, I would expect the cycle time and energy consumption to be lower, and the same goes for any other type of dryer. The energy label test criteria stipulates a 1000 rpm spin, whereas very few washers nowadays spin at less than 1200 rpm. And a "full" load usually weighs nowhere near the stated capacity of the machine, because real laundry items vary significantly in weight and bulk.
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Al,
Just had a read through your thread, very informative thanks. There are some short reviews on the web, but it's much more helpful to hear from someone who has really put a machine through its paces over a longer period of time.
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2011hoover700,
A Hoovermatic fills by simply connecting the hose to the sink tap, so it will take whatever temperature water you decide to give it. The fill spout is just an alternative to manually aiming the hose into the machine, but if you choose not to use it, a pull-out sink sprayer will accomplish exactly the same job.
vintagerepairer
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Thank you
Spira clean. 1.65kw is certainly a very low amount of electricity for drying 7KG. The price one pays for that of course (based on your message) is the amount of time it needs to dry the laundry. But that may not matter to all consumers.
Spira clean. 1.65kw is certainly a very low amount of electricity for drying 7KG. The price one pays for that of course (based on your message) is the amount of time it needs to dry the laundry. But that may not matter to all consumers.
turbo500
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the Bosch heat pump I'm looking at right now
Spiraclean, just a heads up - new BSH (Bosch, Siemens, Neff) dryers don't reverse. So if that's a feature you're looking for, you might want to have a look into other brands
Spiraclean, just a heads up - new BSH (Bosch, Siemens, Neff) dryers don't reverse. So if that's a feature you're looking for, you might want to have a look into other brands
vintagerepairer
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Reverse
I wonder if the design of the heat-pump is such that a reverse action is not needed? I can't think why else it would not have it, unless of course the very nature of the dryer is such that the motor needs to turn without pausing.
I wonder if the design of the heat-pump is such that a reverse action is not needed? I can't think why else it would not have it, unless of course the very nature of the dryer is such that the motor needs to turn without pausing.
turbo500
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Benny, I don't think it's anything to do with the heat pump - none of the BSH range of dryers reverse, including the vented and basic condenser models.
matt8808
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We've had a few washers recently.
Childhood washing machine was a Tricity Bendix machine & matching vented drier.
These were from the late 80's very early 90's with a chrome door and dark brown control panels. Cant remember the mod numbers but I know the washer was a higher end version. They lasted years.
Later we got a matching Hoover washer and vented drier - these were terrible. The washer had a few new control modules and door seals. It used to shred clothes between the glass door and rubber door seal during the spin hence the new door seals under warranty. The drier bearings used to grind and they both failed completely shortly after the warranty expired.
We then bought a Samsung washing machine - this was when Samsung were new to the UK washing machine market (I'd never seen them before anyway).
It had major issues with the out of balance spin sensor - A 30 minute quick wash would take 5 hours due to this.
The repair man from Comet replaced the control panel twice, the motor, drum and belt once and still it refused to work properly.
Then one day the mains cable and moulded plug started to melt!!!!!!!! So Comet swiftly took it away and said we could choose a new machine.
We then chose a Bosch Classixx (this is going back about 6 years) - fantastic machine - lasted around 3 - 4 years and then the carbon brushes wore away due to the amount of use it was getting.
At this point we replaced it. Simply because it had received so much use we couldn't justify spending any money fixing it.
We then bought a LG direct drive washing machine. Very similar to the current LG F12A8TDA5 - this lasted two years of normal use!
The wash recirculation pump failed and it was becoming very noisy in spin leading me to believe the drum support struts were also starting to fail. Unimpressed we sold it as a going concern.
A few months ago we bought our current machine from Currys.
Miele W3228 - very impressed with it and we have registered with Miele for the 10 years parts and labour warranty.
On the drier scene around 3 years ago I bought a Zanussi condenser drier with autodry. It seemed to shrink a lot of clothes though and didn't dry on the lower heat setting so I sold it on eBay.
I then bought a full size White Knight vented drier as they are well known for their reliability and a friend has one that dries very well without shrinking everything. TWO warranty repairs in the first year - I tumble dry EVERYTHING but I had expected it be a lot more reliable given the brands reputation. First repair was the airflow fan, second repair was the heating element coming loose and catching on the drum.
Replaced it while waiting for the second warranty repair and sold it on eBay once it was fixed.
And our current drier is a bit of a mixed bag. I'm not a fan of Hotpoint at all - but it was cheap to buy new and so far it has actually been superb! Wouldn't usually give Hotpoint a second look but we needed a drier there and then and it ticked the boxes so we got it. I ram it full to the brim and it dries everything quite happily on the low heat setting. I even tumble dry everything in the summer as I don't like washing hung on the line, so it maybe gets 4 - 5 hours use most weeks. It is vented through the wall too so that's a plus. When it does eventually give up the ghost I'll be buying a Miele drier to match the washing machine.
Childhood washing machine was a Tricity Bendix machine & matching vented drier.
These were from the late 80's very early 90's with a chrome door and dark brown control panels. Cant remember the mod numbers but I know the washer was a higher end version. They lasted years.
Later we got a matching Hoover washer and vented drier - these were terrible. The washer had a few new control modules and door seals. It used to shred clothes between the glass door and rubber door seal during the spin hence the new door seals under warranty. The drier bearings used to grind and they both failed completely shortly after the warranty expired.
We then bought a Samsung washing machine - this was when Samsung were new to the UK washing machine market (I'd never seen them before anyway).
It had major issues with the out of balance spin sensor - A 30 minute quick wash would take 5 hours due to this.
The repair man from Comet replaced the control panel twice, the motor, drum and belt once and still it refused to work properly.
Then one day the mains cable and moulded plug started to melt!!!!!!!! So Comet swiftly took it away and said we could choose a new machine.
We then chose a Bosch Classixx (this is going back about 6 years) - fantastic machine - lasted around 3 - 4 years and then the carbon brushes wore away due to the amount of use it was getting.
At this point we replaced it. Simply because it had received so much use we couldn't justify spending any money fixing it.
We then bought a LG direct drive washing machine. Very similar to the current LG F12A8TDA5 - this lasted two years of normal use!
The wash recirculation pump failed and it was becoming very noisy in spin leading me to believe the drum support struts were also starting to fail. Unimpressed we sold it as a going concern.
A few months ago we bought our current machine from Currys.
Miele W3228 - very impressed with it and we have registered with Miele for the 10 years parts and labour warranty.
On the drier scene around 3 years ago I bought a Zanussi condenser drier with autodry. It seemed to shrink a lot of clothes though and didn't dry on the lower heat setting so I sold it on eBay.
I then bought a full size White Knight vented drier as they are well known for their reliability and a friend has one that dries very well without shrinking everything. TWO warranty repairs in the first year - I tumble dry EVERYTHING but I had expected it be a lot more reliable given the brands reputation. First repair was the airflow fan, second repair was the heating element coming loose and catching on the drum.
Replaced it while waiting for the second warranty repair and sold it on eBay once it was fixed.
And our current drier is a bit of a mixed bag. I'm not a fan of Hotpoint at all - but it was cheap to buy new and so far it has actually been superb! Wouldn't usually give Hotpoint a second look but we needed a drier there and then and it ticked the boxes so we got it. I ram it full to the brim and it dries everything quite happily on the low heat setting. I even tumble dry everything in the summer as I don't like washing hung on the line, so it maybe gets 4 - 5 hours use most weeks. It is vented through the wall too so that's a plus. When it does eventually give up the ghost I'll be buying a Miele drier to match the washing machine.
turbo500
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I don't like washing hung on the line
Hi Matt,
Dear GOD, after reading that, I need to sit down and have a vodka!
I love line drying laundry, especially bed sheets. You just can't beat the fresh smell on your laundry after a breezey summer day on the line. Even in the summer, I don't tumble dry everything. Jeans, t-shirts and jumpers never see the inside of the dryer and in winter they all go on the clothes horse. Cotton shirts, underwear, socks, towels and bedding are the only things I tumble dry, which usually means I can get 1 drying load out of 2 washing loads.
Good call with the Miele. I love mine.
I can't recall a brown facia Tricity Bendix machine. There are these Bendix machines, but these are just branded Bendix (Tricity Bendix being, I believe, the first machines produced after the Electrolux group took over the brand. These older style machines are proper Bendix machines with some of the BOL machines made by Merloni)
Hi Matt,
Dear GOD, after reading that, I need to sit down and have a vodka!
I love line drying laundry, especially bed sheets. You just can't beat the fresh smell on your laundry after a breezey summer day on the line. Even in the summer, I don't tumble dry everything. Jeans, t-shirts and jumpers never see the inside of the dryer and in winter they all go on the clothes horse. Cotton shirts, underwear, socks, towels and bedding are the only things I tumble dry, which usually means I can get 1 drying load out of 2 washing loads.
Good call with the Miele. I love mine.
I can't recall a brown facia Tricity Bendix machine. There are these Bendix machines, but these are just branded Bendix (Tricity Bendix being, I believe, the first machines produced after the Electrolux group took over the brand. These older style machines are proper Bendix machines with some of the BOL machines made by Merloni)
turbo500
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Bendix machines in question
matt8808
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YES!!! It was one of those! It looked exactly the same as that only as far as I recall the washer had at least 6 of the large round buttons in the middle of the panel! ahhhh childhood memories LOL my mistake over the Bendix / Tricity Bendix name. It was clearly a Bendix
I don't like the washing line.... birds poo on it and bugs land all over my clean washing ect ect haha I'm so fussy (and a bit lazy).... its so much easier to ram everything into the drier
I love our Miele too. Oozes quality and you can just tell it is going to last a long long time *touch wood*
I don't like the washing line.... birds poo on it and bugs land all over my clean washing ect ect haha I'm so fussy (and a bit lazy).... its so much easier to ram everything into the drier
I love our Miele too. Oozes quality and you can just tell it is going to last a long long time *touch wood*
turbo500
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my mistake over the Bendix / Tricity Bendix name
Matt, it could be me that's wrong, but as far as I am aware, I don't think there was a machine of that style branded "Tricity Bendix". Someone more knowlegable that myself might correct me there.
I'm sure there are some YouTube clips of that style machine. I'll hunt them down later and send you a link when I get chance. Might bring back some nice memories.
Bird poo? Bugs? Oh, don't be so wet (no pun intended!)
. Maybe it's me being old fashioned, but my mother always taught me not to tumble dry t-shirts because they shrink and jeans because they take too long and use too much electric. Maybe I'm just tight being from Yorkshire.
Matt, it could be me that's wrong, but as far as I am aware, I don't think there was a machine of that style branded "Tricity Bendix". Someone more knowlegable that myself might correct me there.
I'm sure there are some YouTube clips of that style machine. I'll hunt them down later and send you a link when I get chance. Might bring back some nice memories.
Bird poo? Bugs? Oh, don't be so wet (no pun intended!)
. Maybe it's me being old fashioned, but my mother always taught me not to tumble dry t-shirts because they shrink and jeans because they take too long and use too much electric. Maybe I'm just tight being from Yorkshire.
sebo_fan
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I was always led to believe Bendix were part of Philco before Merloni brought over Bendix in 2000. The white machine we had (where I wrongly stated Kelvinator since they produced with Candy), was also sold by Philco. In this 1982 video you can clearly see a silver panelled Bendix 7147B.
The Tricity line up has always been made up of two brands from UK "independent" electrical show rooms, "Electra" and "Tricity" as in ELEC-TRICITY. Electra were more or less a trader company though - we had several Electra branded appliances in between our washers, particularly those that were given to us when the Hoover machines broke down.
Tricity on the other hand appeared to make good cookers, but in later life merged with Creda. Then Creda went with Hotpoint and then Indesit, and now Tricity Bendix are part of Ariston - I THINK, don't quote me!
The Tricity line up has always been made up of two brands from UK "independent" electrical show rooms, "Electra" and "Tricity" as in ELEC-TRICITY. Electra were more or less a trader company though - we had several Electra branded appliances in between our washers, particularly those that were given to us when the Hoover machines broke down.
Tricity on the other hand appeared to make good cookers, but in later life merged with Creda. Then Creda went with Hotpoint and then Indesit, and now Tricity Bendix are part of Ariston - I THINK, don't quote me!
matt8808
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Chris you're right it was a Bendix we had.
I've done some research on the net and can confirm it was either a 7148 or 7168... Will of probably been bought in the mid to late 80's so I'm assuming it will of been the 7168... looked EXACTLY the same as this...
I've done some research on the net and can confirm it was either a 7148 or 7168... Will of probably been bought in the mid to late 80's so I'm assuming it will of been the 7168... looked EXACTLY the same as this...
turbo500
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Ry, the Merloni Bendix/Tricity Bendix machines were mid-late 80's machines and were styled to look the same as the range posted above. They were the base model machines with a 500rpm spin, IIRC. Not sure where 2000 came from as by this point all Bendix and Tricity Bendix machines were made by Electrolux.
We bought a Bendix machine in 2005/06 and it was just a simplified version of the Zanussi's on sale at the time, but with the older style drum.
We bought a Bendix machine in 2005/06 and it was just a simplified version of the Zanussi's on sale at the time, but with the older style drum.
matt8808
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mother always taught me....
Mother doesn't always know best though
Not mine anyway... can always tell when she has been near the washing machine because this happens....
Alas, I'm too used to living the life of riley to move out and fend for myself though... roll on the day when I can stick her in a nursing home hahaha
Mother doesn't always know best though
Not mine anyway... can always tell when she has been near the washing machine because this happens....
Alas, I'm too used to living the life of riley to move out and fend for myself though... roll on the day when I can stick her in a nursing home hahaha
turbo500
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Oh, Matt, don't even get me started on my mothers current washing habits, I'll be ranting for hours!
Thankfully, I was able to move out at 19, so I've lived on my own for 5 years now.
Thankfully, I was able to move out at 19, so I've lived on my own for 5 years now.
