UK Hoover Timeline...

[sebo_fan]

Alex - sorry but I just don't agree with you regarding dirty fan vac bags and clean air bags. I think it has a lot to do with the bag's design as Benny says and the way in which it is positioned - and nowadays the added filtration layers that brands fit into the bags.


 


For example, I know my Electrolux Z517 was a clean air machine and the bag filled from the top to the bottom, but inadvertently the dust always seemed to stick at the top by the cardboard sleeve holder - the strongest part of the dust bag where it hang locks onto the top of the locks.


 


I found Hoover's dust bags in the Junior and Senior were a law unto themselves depending on the Junior's model at the time like the U1012 with the top fill hose and latterly same with the U1104. The dust didn't always get deposited to the bottom of the bags. With the bottom fill bags, I used to find that new dust bags would often have dust in the middle, just above the main dust channel and eventually the dust would be pushed to the bottom as the force of more dust would eventually push through to fill the entire bag.


 


The dust bags in the Oreck XL (dirty fan) are far more efficient and better designed though and I found that they filled to the bottom - but never quite as full to the fullest maximum that Oreck suggested.


 


The only system that I've seen where dust gets properly chucked to the bottom of the dust bag and is able to fill to the top with dust is with clean air vacs like Sebo's uprights. 


 


 


 


 

 

[jmurray01]

I can definitely agree with what you said Ryan about the Electrolux 500-Series filling from top to bottom, as my 502S does that all the time.

 

[sebo_fan]

Personally Jamie, I think you should buy a Sebo X1 Automatic.

 

[jmurray01]

If I can buy it with Monopoly money, I will.

Incidentally I shall be going to the Job Centre in about an hour to look at the available jobs and God Willing, find something, although that is unlikely as even people with Degrees are finding it nigh on impossible to get work these days.

 

[vintagerepairer]

The fact that people have degrees does not mean they are qualified to do a job as old fashioned social skills and basic manners are being phased out now, even though both are still needed. Don't let the fact that graduates are not able to find work put you off. You have already shown you have a near perfect grasp of the written English and at your age there is much time to tweak your social skills. Indeed you probably have a good deal more than your peers.

 

[jmurray01]

Thank you Benny, that means a lot.

 

[vintagerepairer]

You are welcome. Best of luck.

 

[turbo500]

although that is unlikely as even people with Degrees are fi

Jamie, I work in HR and know a lot about how recruitment works.


 


The problem we're facing, is that these days, so many people have degrees - a lot of them are pointless. It's all well and good if you want to be a doctor or teacher or something that requires a lot of hard work and the right qualifications. But in your everyday office roles and less specific roles, it makes no difference. My office is full of media, music and psychology graduates all doing the same job as me, and I have no qualifications at all aside from GCSE's. There is no degree in the world that counts of common sense. You could have all the text-book smarts in the world but still not be able to figure out your arse from your elbow.

A degree used to be something that only the very intellegent and often the more wealthy people had. I'm all for equal opportunities, but now that everyone has a degree, they're not respected like they used to be.


 


A lot of uni graduates are coming into job interviews and talking about their degrees - we don't want to know. We don't care. Your degree doesn't mean you're capable of doing the job. We want to KNOW that you can do it. Employers these days are using more competance based interviews, where they ask for a specific example of something that you have done that fits the criteria they are looking for (the criteria is usually given to you before the interview to give you time to prepare). That way, you can demonstrate that you are fully competant and can be trained to do the job required.


 


As long as you can prove to an employer that you have the skills to do the role they require with the appropriate training, you'll be fine.

 

[jmurray01]

Well at the last moment I discovered that the jobs I'd be browsing at the Job Centre could be seen on the Direct Gov website so I decided to go on it and check the listings instead.

There was one listing (added today) for a cleaner required in a town 15 miles away so I telephoned them but there was no answer.

I'll call back again tomorrow and if they answer, I'll apply.

A cleaning job would be perfect for me as I'm good at vacuuming (really ?), dusting and just all-round cleaning.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Just tell them you own more vacuum cleaners than Kim and Aggie put together lol. Also ask if you can use your own Ranger to do the cleaning and explain the benefits of dirty fan cleaners - they will be so impressed with your knowledge they will give you the job!
Here's to the Hoover Ranger - the greatest vac in the world (According to James Murray)

 

[jmurray01]

Better not let my Ranger see what you just said, it may become big headed like its owner...

That is where you say "of course not!" by the way.

 

[vintagerepairer]

The chances are that the person interviewing you won't be as bothered about your cleaning skills as much as they are your promise to turn up and that you are legally allowed to work in the UK.

 

[jmurray01]

That is the sad truth of it Benny.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Did you ever get that job interview as a cleaner Jamie? hows the job searching going, you must be desperate for a job to be able to buy more vacs?

 

[jmurray01]

No I didn't unfortunately, but I'm still searching everyday.

It isn't just vacuums I need money for now though, I've recently re-lit (pardon the pun) my passion for incense so I need money to buy more of that!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Incense jamie? say - are turning into a Hippy? growing the hair, 70's hoovers - next thing you'll be wanting a VW camper van lol

 

[jmurray01]

Ha ha, nah I just like the smell (lavender is my favourite) and the relaxing properties. Might light up another stick this evening.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I put several drops of those scented oils on the filter in my Henry, it works wonders whenver I hoover with it - Wilkos have a good range of these oils, and I recommend it for bagged cleaners - its Honeysuckle in the Henry at the moment!

 

[jmurray01]

Well tomorrow I'll be buying a whole lot of incense sticks, there is a deal on eBay at the moment that a seller is doing where if you buy 4 sets of 20 incense sticks you get a free set, plus there is a holder thrown in.

I will buy that!