UK Halloween Meet - The Cleaners

[chestermikeuk]

From Alistairs Meet...

In 2008 The Hoover 100th year, heres a few more pics!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chestermikeuk/sets/72157625484165670/detail/

 

[chestermikeuk]

From The

Hoover Colourisation Wheel....

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoover 417

Cylinder range...demonstrated by Stephen (Hooverbaby)

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoover Minors.....

The first & second series...

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoover Minors

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[chestermikeuk]

The Gang...

Pick Their favourite vacs...

 

[hooverbaby]

Wow!

Thanks Mike for sending those pictures with me in! I've not seen them before but did check out the ones in the off-topic section last week; it looks as though you all had a great time, even though I wasn't thereAs for the marquee, that was a great idea; you just never know what the weather will do and it makes Al's place look like a stately home lol.

The Junior line ups look great and help and show some of the many variations over the years. I like the one showing the line up of 'coffee can' Hoovers, some of which I brought down 2 years ago.

I'm hoping to get a new camera for Christmas; the mode switch has failed on my old one and I can't seem to get a replacement. Perhaps I'll get organised in the spring and I can post a few line ups of my own stuff.

Hope to catch up with you all later!

Stephen

 

[ultimatevacman]

Great collections everyone!

"And note that I have paid attention to our own DysonAnimal so that I have not run the cleaners with the handles upright" Why is it a bad thing to run the machine while the handle is upright?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[hoover119dude]

hi vacbear58. my fav is your vactric R45. love the bag graphics.

 

[hoover119dude]

when you mentioned paul linnell's vactric in this thread he gave that one to me two years ago.

 

[super-sweeper]

It isn't bad to run them in upright,

That wouldn't make any sense. In a Dyson, when the cleaner is upright, the suction is diverted from the head the the hose, unless is has something to do with the bursh-roll eating the rug?



 


-Alex.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Dyson

All the Dyson cleaners I know of take the suction off the cleaning head when stood upright. In newer 01 models and on all of the 03 I think, this was done by sealing off the suction completely, that is to say effectively blocking the airflow. This of course would cause the motor to overheat if left like it for long enough. The early 01 cleaners allowed air to escape from vents in the cleaning head when the machine was stood upright, but this required a valve in the hose socket and the design was so problematic that not only did Dyson stop fitting it, they also took it out of a good deal of cleaners which were sent back to the factory for repair.

On later models from 04 onwards, suction was diverted to the hose when the cleaner was stood up, but as all cleaners had caps over the hole in the wand, the potential was still there for the cleaner to overheat. I have not see the ball-style cleaners in much detail but I have been told that these cleaners allow the suction to carry on through the front of the cleaning head until the hose is removed. To be truthful, I cannot see what the problem was in having the suction running through the cleaner head when the cleaner was stood upright, but Dyson didn't like it, I expect.

However, how this applies to the vintage juniors in the picture, I am not sure.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Rug munching

All these years have passed and until I read a message on here last week, never once did I hear about the fringes of mats being refereed to as munched, or a cleaner being called a rug-muncher. But I can see where the term comes from, when one considers that the upright cleaners have always been capable of chewing the loose ends of carpets and rugs. This comes down to the brush roller of course, not the suction, which is why a good deal of cleaners are designed so that when the cleaner is upright, the cleaner head is lifted off the floor or the brushes stop turning, so as to not cause damage to carpets when the hose is being used.

Again, I don't see how this relates to the vintage juniors here as all of them would be in contact with the floor at all times, no matter what position the handle was in.

 

[ultimatevacman]

Thanks for the info Benny. Like you said, how does this affect the Hoover Junior's shown?

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Great Display!!

I like that idea of lining a staircase with HOOVERS! hmmm. who have thunk???

 

[garlee]

Superb collection of vacuums .Love the collection of Hoover Juniors of differing models
Great Stuff

 

[vacbear58]

Old pictures

Thanks for all the nice comments on this old thread

Gary, is yours the one in this colour scheme or do you have the other version which has a body in similar colour to a Hoover Junior 119 and the burgundy bag?

John, I promise the idea was not stolen from you. It first happened in the first meeting I had in 2007 where there were quite a few Juniors and it was somewhere to put them all, sadly my house is nearly not so large as yours. After that it became a bit of a tradition to have the "stairway of Juniors" although I eventually ran out of stairs - and I don't even have examples of the all!

Now, regarding the comment about using the cleaners with the handles lowered. With all Hoover "bag in the back" cleaners prior to those with disposable bag (which continues the air path beyond the rear of the cleaner) when the handle is in the upright position the bag is held, with some tension, at a sharp right angle to the back of the machine - not only does this restrict the airflow it also puts pressure on this area of the bag and I don't doubt that this is another reason (along with the bag not being emptied every time it is used and the dust rotting the bag) why there are so few original bags around. If you look at every instruction book prior to the 638 you will see that the handle is always lowered when the attachments are in use. Now, I will admit this may not be quite as strong a consideration when using the Junior where the bag is not held under the same tension it seems to me that the same policy is practised, where the handle is lowered when attachments are in use, as shown below.

Al

 

[ultimatevacman]

Thanks Al, that clears it up. Would this apply to my Hoover Senior 6525E too?

Cheers,

Joe

 

[vacbear58]

6525E

Joe

The effect on the 6525 would be much less pronounced for it has, as noted above, the bellows assembly which carries the airflow up into the bag. That said, it would be still worth doing for the air, instead of having a 90 degree turn if the handle was upright, would have an easier path (probably less than 45 degrees) if the handle was lowered. And, lets face it, good and all as it is as a carpet cleaner, it needs all the help it can get when tools are attached.

Al

 

[ultimatevacman]

Thanks Al. Yes, it is a very good carpet cleaner thanks to that beater bar, but in hose mode... Oh dear.

Joe

 

[garlee]

Vacbear58 i have the Junior 119 with the brown bag as have managed to get an original bag for this model off Ebay but at a price ! The Hoover juniors that i have in my collection are a 1958 1334 with the metal fan cover as opposed to the plastic one,2 1334A's in the grey and off white colour scheme ,a 1334A in the jonquil and hop green colour scheme ,2 1334E's one with the original bag ,a U1104 and a U1036 .Have been trying to put a pic of them all on here but have been unable to as the camera original digital pic has too many pixels on it as the message comes up when i try to send . hopefully someone will tell me how to send it

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Al!

I think your staircase of Juniors is beautiful. I simply line the stairs here for mini meets for the same reason. There's a much smaller staircase in the back of the house. There are 10 HOOVER 'Convertibles", your "Seniors' there at all times . This big old house has 11 rooms. There are vacuums EVERYWHERE at any given time.But, when I host a mini/mega meet, I bring out fun machines to see, use. I try to bring out models they others haven't seen at my house before. There's one in the formal dining room all the time. My aunt once asked me ,"Are you going to keep that thing out during dinner"? I replied, "Yes, it makes a nice accent piece in any home, don't you think?" That was the end of THAT discussion. It's nice to see those "Happy Birthday, HOOVER" T-shirts over there on you 2 guys, too. THAT was great fun in Ohio. It was GREAT that ye were able to make it over here.

 

[dysondestijl]

On dyson DC25's the suction is still going through the cleaner head when the cleaner is upright, it is only when the wand is pulled out does the suction divert.
ま

 

[ultimatevacman]

I'd love to see the room you keep all your vacs in George, how on earth do you fit them all in there?!

Joe

 

[gottahaveahoove]

which one is George?

I'm missing someone, I think.
John.

 

[ultimatevacman]

John, George is Dysondestijl

Joe

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Ah. ok,

Thanks.

 

[hoover119dude]

hi al. sorry for the delay in answering as i didnt realise you asked a vac question. my R45 is the same as yours. yellow and blue bag. your bag is original mine is an aftermarket replacement. saying that i have seen another design original bag. message me sometime.

 

[nycwriter]

WHY ...

... were the British Hoovers so different than the American Hoovers?

It's the same company. Why not make the same identical sweepers?

 

[hoover119dude]

hi NYCWriter,

i sometimes wonder that myself. Hoover and Electrolux seemed to have different styles in the different countries.

the hoover junior range never took off in the states but did here. but as americans like things big and large maybe the houses were deemed too big there to warrant a small cleaner.

i lived in florida for 22 years and the houses are much bigger there than they are here. that could be one reason.