Tristar CXL, DXL and Miracle Mate Mk1 and Platinum: What's the difference, really?

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Sanifan

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The more I look into Miracle Mates the more I realize they are pretty much repackaged Tristar CXL's. Yet I've read on this forum some opinions that Tristar CXL may be more powerful and less harsh on the ears. On paper they seem pretty much the same (I know the Platinum uses the covered bags instead of the open ones. Apart from the output filters and PN, the Tristar CXL and both Miracle Mates appear to use the same motor and bagging system).

So a question to those in the know. What are the ultimate differences and is there really a difference in performance?
 
I don't thing there's really much difference in performance between the three, as they're basically the same design with the same principles on the cyclonic scrubbing action on the back of the bag. The one main difference I can think of is the MiracleMate uses bags which have card lids on them, rather than just a thin card ring like the Compact/Tristar bags have, so the filtration is about the same...

The main difference in the actual cleaning is the PN, the MiracleMate uses a completely different PN to the Tristar, and the VortechFroce too uses another brand PN (I forget the brands), so there is variation there, but, that's about all I know... :)

Personally I prefer the smooth and refined looks of the Tristar, the others seem too angular and "blocky" for my tastes, but that's just me... :)
 
But there's more!!!

Out of the cast-body vacuums, Vortech Force and Miracle Mate have cord reels.

Regarding all, the hose fitting are the same though I won't swear re Vortech Force. The virtue of these machines is good suction, sheer durability and not a lot in the designs to promote air leaks.

My own theory here, the intake directs the incoming air stream at the inner back wall of the dust bag and helps that small area stay freed up a bit from dust and thus helps keep suction level up as the bag fills. I noticed this particularly on the Miracle Mate I owned but it seems to apply for Air Storm and Patriot as well. The bags don't appear all that big but can carry quite a way due to the way the literally seem to pack dirt in.
 
Someone I know who used to own a MiracleMate claimed that the cable attached to the cord reel was too short compared to compacts & tristars, meaning more socket hopping while cleaning, so there is a drawback to having neat cable storage aswell as adding more maintenance issues... :)
 
@twocvbloke . . .

Hi,

The Miracle Mate never posed much of a problem for me regarding cord length save for doing the stairs that led to the street at the place I used to live in. But, that’s what extension cords are for.

A bigger issue for me was making sure I had enough bags and filters on hand as neither of the two local vac shops in my area carried consumables for the brand. Ordering them meant a wait of several days for delivery via ground if I happened to be fresh out of bags.

Besides the cord reel being my idea of tee-rific, the exhaust filters were by design made to fit into the machine. Schoettler’s Patriot and Air Storm, as at least two examples, have exhaust filters that are basically afterthoughts that can make maneuvering and use awkward.

Miracle Mate can’t be let off the hook as far as dubious ideas go either. Pretty obviously tugging at the heart strings of the germophobe, the company has now come up with the XIF. It’s a UV light device that slaps on top of the machine for air purification purposes. Is it effective? Who knows. In any event a caveat here is in order since having had one in the house, the Miracle Mate doesn’t roar but is a little loud just for air purification duty.

I believe the XIF is powered off the electrical port for the power nozzle meaning you might be able to use it in tandem while you’re doing just straight-suction cleaning.

My big wish is that, someday soon, Consumer Reports or some other testing organization will thoroughly test a broader number of the pricey D-T-D brands to reduce the level of mystery as to actual worth. They do check out the more popular niche brands like Kirby, Aerus, and Rainbow regularly enough and even get around to Filter Queen now and then. However, Vortech Force (a new model with a facelift has come out), Patriot, Air Storm and other heftily priced machines seem to remain completely off the radar even though they obviously continue to sell and turn up just about everywhere.


http://www.miraclemate.com/
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Just throwing this out there so those not familiar with Miracle Mate can get a look-see . . .

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I've had a Miracle Mate and Vortech Force. The Miracle Mate is quite heavy. For the most part I liked both machines but what I did not like about them (as well as the Compact, Tristar, Patriot, etc.) is that the way the hose is made/positioned, it extends the length of the machine quite a bit so maneuvering in tight quarters is difficult.

Gary
 
@countryguy . . .

Hi Gary,

I didn't mind the weight of my Miracle Mate too much but I did opt to buy a 14-foot electrified hose from Shoettler (Patriot/Air Storm -- same fittings) to lessen having to move the machine around.

Vortech always interested me because of the super-duper HEPA it has up front in the bag compartment. Is it worth its salt?
 
Hi Venson,

It has been awhile since I've had the Vortech but I don't recall it having a HEPA in the bag compartment but then I don't remember a lot of things these days LOL. I did buy it new. I don't have allergies so having a HEPA filter doesn't really make any difference to me. I did like that the Vortech had the separate non electrified hose - it was so much lighter than the electric hose and it had the regular handle instead of the pistol grip like on the electric hose.

Gary
 
@countryguy . . .

Hey Gary,

I will certainly put you on the list as part of the "Intelligence" posse.

PS -- Couldn't find an image of the Vortech filter I mentioned but I'm posting a shot of the new model anyway.

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All the Tristar type canisters

I have owned tristar,miracle mate,and patriot.I feel they are all well made machines that perform great,the motors used in them are good quality double ball bearing lamb style motors that should last for many years. I would recommend any of these machines over the newer electrolux's or filterqueens because of the quality of their motors.
 
Is that a Sebo powerhead on the current Miracle Mate?

This is what it says on the Miracle Mate website: The Platinum Cleaning System wouldn’t be complete without an incredible powerhead. Designed and manufactured in Germany by Stein & Co. GMBH, a company known for making powerheads that clean the red carpets at the White House and Buckingham Palace.

I'm not sure how I feel about the new Vortech design. My initial feeling is that it's too "racy" looking to fit into a classy home. Maybe into a very bold contemporary home, yes, but it would draw too much attention to itself inside subtler decor. It reminds me of cross between those cartoony Hot Wheels diecast toy cars and a small carpet steamer.

I'm assuming all of these Tristar/Compact offspring brands came about after the patent on the bagging design expired? Or was it never patented?

I've been lucky enough to pick up two Tristar 50th Anniversary models and a Miracle Mate Platinum (with Lindhaus PN) in the last half year. After I got the MM, I realized there really isn't too much difference in internal workings of the main body. Just some execution differences, arguably some make-or-break, like the cord winder and shorter cord and covered bag in the Platinum, but they are essentially the same. The bigger difference would be in the PNs that come with them. Oh, and the looks, of course.

Great machines!

http://www.hotwheels.com/cars
 
Tristar bag in Miracle Mate?

I forgot to ask, can the open Tristar bag be used in the Miracle Mate Platinum? From the cutaway pic of the Platinum, it seems like it would be backwards compatible with the Tristar's open topped bags. Anyone know for sure?

I would try it myself, but the MM was a recent acquisition and needs some serious cleaning before I can play around with it.
 
@Sanifan . . .

Hi,

I would not advise a bag switch. The round TriStar outer bag may fit in your Miracle Mate but the round, wide-mouth disposable bag is all wrong.

The bag compartment's cover might not close properly as it depends on its disposable bag's stiff cardboard cover to promote a complete seal. (The Miracle Mate bag has a cardboard cover with only an opening large enough to accommodate the fill-tube attached to the inner lid of the cleaner.) The cardboard cover also has a notch in it, if I recall correctly, for properly positioning it on the machine.

Of course, do what you want but I don't think the results will be enthusing.

Good luck,

Venson
 

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