The Great HEPA Debate
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suckolux
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this works sometimes!
durango159
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Motoejo- you have some very nice cleaners!! All are in gorgeous condition! Is the second photo a Hoover Advance?
Thank you! I enjoy photos!
Thank you! I enjoy photos!
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Thank you!! I'm very picky about my machines from the looks to the pitch the motor puts out when used. That is and isn't a Hoover Advantage. When I bought it, the outside, bag, handle, mostly the motor were in fabulous condition. The plastic base had taken a hit and had a crack, the fan was worn and the lower bearing was going bad. I had found a beat up green convertible at a garage sale for $3 which had torn bag, ruined motor and cracked case. So I took the metal base and surprisingly good shape metal fan and placed the advantage motor with new bearing on the metal base. Attached advantage handle and bag with hood for perfect fit. It's a personal fav.
Thank you!! I'm very picky about my machines from the looks to the pitch the motor puts out when used. That is and isn't a Hoover Advantage. When I bought it, the outside, bag, handle, mostly the motor were in fabulous condition. The plastic base had taken a hit and had a crack, the fan was worn and the lower bearing was going bad. I had found a beat up green convertible at a garage sale for $3 which had torn bag, ruined motor and cracked case. So I took the metal base and surprisingly good shape metal fan and placed the advantage motor with new bearing on the metal base. Attached advantage handle and bag with hood for perfect fit. It's a personal fav.
hepa bags
This has definitely been an interesting thread to read. I will start out by saying that I'm a big canister fan, including canisters, central vacuums or backpacks. For some of my canisters such as Miele, Sebo, and my Riccar prima, I use the manufacturer's bags and they are cloth bags. I don't have any allergies, but I think cloth bags are far superior to paper bags in every way. For my Aerus classic, electrolux 1205, Electrolux Olimpia and Perfect c101 and c103, I use the Perfect cloth bags, they are far superior to the Aerus paper bags. My Panasonic mc-cg902 came with a paper bag, I replaced that with a Kenmore Q bag, it fits perfectly. My Electrolux Ultra One classic also takes cloth bags. My central vacuum units also take cloth bags, so no issues there. Several of my backpacks came with paper bags, I replaced those with the Perfect cloth backpack bags, those will fit a variety of backpack vacuums. Unfortunately, I do have a couple of vacuums that only have paper bags available, as far as I know, my Lindhaus hf6 and the Metro vacuum professional canister. Hopefully cloth bags will be available for these at some point.
This has definitely been an interesting thread to read. I will start out by saying that I'm a big canister fan, including canisters, central vacuums or backpacks. For some of my canisters such as Miele, Sebo, and my Riccar prima, I use the manufacturer's bags and they are cloth bags. I don't have any allergies, but I think cloth bags are far superior to paper bags in every way. For my Aerus classic, electrolux 1205, Electrolux Olimpia and Perfect c101 and c103, I use the Perfect cloth bags, they are far superior to the Aerus paper bags. My Panasonic mc-cg902 came with a paper bag, I replaced that with a Kenmore Q bag, it fits perfectly. My Electrolux Ultra One classic also takes cloth bags. My central vacuum units also take cloth bags, so no issues there. Several of my backpacks came with paper bags, I replaced those with the Perfect cloth backpack bags, those will fit a variety of backpack vacuums. Unfortunately, I do have a couple of vacuums that only have paper bags available, as far as I know, my Lindhaus hf6 and the Metro vacuum professional canister. Hopefully cloth bags will be available for these at some point.
sebo_fan
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Since the appearance of synthetic/cloth bags, I am not that bothered by the lack of ones available for certain vacs I own. Im lucky in a way that the ones I do own can all take cloth bags i.e appear to have bags available. If someone gave me a whole box of free genuine paper dust bags for some of my German vacs, I would still thank them for them.
speedqueen
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Health Effects of Dust...
I generally take Andy's stance on dust building the immune system but I have a personal story that may portray otherwise.
When I was around six years old my mother's Fantom Fury died and she replaced it with a Bissell, and as we all know Bissell's cyclone is certainly not the most efficient. Being quite interested with vacuums at that time as well I helped by beating out the dust from the filter, in the garage, there was quite a cloud of dust. Later I woke up in the middle of the night and could not open my eyes, they were puss-glued shut. As you can imagine it was quite a traumatizing experience for a six year old. I screamed and shouted until my parents came and surveyed the problem and what to do about it. After using a warm washcloth to clear the puss from my eyes they made an emergency appointment to the doctor next morning. Turns out I had pink eye.
Considering that about a year later I ended up spraying small engine starting fluid(ether) into my eyes I'm surprised I don't need glasses.
I generally take Andy's stance on dust building the immune system but I have a personal story that may portray otherwise.
When I was around six years old my mother's Fantom Fury died and she replaced it with a Bissell, and as we all know Bissell's cyclone is certainly not the most efficient. Being quite interested with vacuums at that time as well I helped by beating out the dust from the filter, in the garage, there was quite a cloud of dust. Later I woke up in the middle of the night and could not open my eyes, they were puss-glued shut. As you can imagine it was quite a traumatizing experience for a six year old. I screamed and shouted until my parents came and surveyed the problem and what to do about it. After using a warm washcloth to clear the puss from my eyes they made an emergency appointment to the doctor next morning. Turns out I had pink eye.
Considering that about a year later I ended up spraying small engine starting fluid(ether) into my eyes I'm surprised I don't need glasses.
cuffs054
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Comemon, anybody who watches TV knows that the Shark is the only vacuum that doesn't poop dust back into the air. It's like a vacuum miracle!
striking a balance
When it comes to dust exposure, I take a middle approach. I certainly don't go out of my way to breathe dust, on the other hand, I don't try to live in a bubble either. For example, my Miele vacuum could be upgraded to a Hepa exhaust filter, but I see no need to do that, the standard exhaust filter suffices. The main reason I like the cloth bags is because they allow better airflow and don't seem to break as easily. If they provide better filtration, fine, it's an added benefit.
When it comes to dust exposure, I take a middle approach. I certainly don't go out of my way to breathe dust, on the other hand, I don't try to live in a bubble either. For example, my Miele vacuum could be upgraded to a Hepa exhaust filter, but I see no need to do that, the standard exhaust filter suffices. The main reason I like the cloth bags is because they allow better airflow and don't seem to break as easily. If they provide better filtration, fine, it's an added benefit.
panasonicvac
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Something to add here
Personally, I don't have any asthma or allergies but I really don't like the smell of dirt. I also rather keep my vacuums clean, neat, and last as long as possible. When I used paper bags before, about once a year I would take apart a machine to clean any dust that escaped from inside the bag, I didn't mind at first but then later it gets annoying to do. HEPA is definitely for me because as a woodworker, saw dust clogs up very fast, not only that but I find it leaks worse than just regular dust. And more importantly, I definitely don't want toxic saw dust to leak from paper bags such as Poison Walnut, Fir, Makore, etc. because I rather not get either skin or eye infection in my own house.
I think the very best way to get rid of any dust from any home would be a bagged central vacuum. Let's take a Simplicity or a Riccar for example, all the dust you would vacuum up would be taken OUT of your house and into the unit of either the garage or the basement and into the HEPA bag. What's even better is adding exhaust pipes so all of the dust would be taken OUT of your home indefinitely. And the rain would later filter the air of all you have vacuumed up.
Personally, I don't have any asthma or allergies but I really don't like the smell of dirt. I also rather keep my vacuums clean, neat, and last as long as possible. When I used paper bags before, about once a year I would take apart a machine to clean any dust that escaped from inside the bag, I didn't mind at first but then later it gets annoying to do. HEPA is definitely for me because as a woodworker, saw dust clogs up very fast, not only that but I find it leaks worse than just regular dust. And more importantly, I definitely don't want toxic saw dust to leak from paper bags such as Poison Walnut, Fir, Makore, etc. because I rather not get either skin or eye infection in my own house.
I think the very best way to get rid of any dust from any home would be a bagged central vacuum. Let's take a Simplicity or a Riccar for example, all the dust you would vacuum up would be taken OUT of your house and into the unit of either the garage or the basement and into the HEPA bag. What's even better is adding exhaust pipes so all of the dust would be taken OUT of your home indefinitely. And the rain would later filter the air of all you have vacuumed up.
