The Electrolux 560 rides again!

[madabouthoovers]

My underside pipes for the 500's are all ok - but I find its the filters that are now getting harder to find - there are not very many of them left now - even on ebay there are only a couple of sellers for them - and prices are creeping up. The pads and the screw down filter are both getting in short supply.
I cannot find that much for them on Ebay now - despite Benny saying that parts were still 2 a penny - I think Benny may be surprised if he went on Ebay nowadays - as they are anything but 2 a penny now.
Not one sole plate could I find for any 500 series, and there is one seller selling second hand bits from a 502S - thats about it. (she's selling a bottom pipe too BTW and some filters) You may want to have a bid? so might I lol

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121035400489?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

[vintagerepairer]

Hello there. Benny is on ebay these days. I look a lot. I was not referring to specific spares still being available on there, new or old, I was speaking of complete 2nd hand cleaners. I see so very many. On the quickest search just now I found a mass of new consumable parts, plus a job lot of 502S parts, and a complete 502.

The consumable spares for these cleaners are still very much around, being sold by numerous online retailers, but at a price of course.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Benny - just talking about you lol - there aint much one ebay now for the 500 series - go take a look - but I do note that site with the aftermarket base hoses - useful addition.
Will have to keep my eye out for an orginal 500 soleplate for my 500 to replace the 502 one it has on now

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well this was my first search and it bought up 86 matches.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_n...at=0&_odkw=electrolux+560&_osacat=0&_from=R40

 

[madabouthoovers]

Benny - hope you didnt get the hump - I didnt mean to sound rude lol. Its just that most complete 500's that appear on ebay are either too expensive or they wont post them - there are a couple of later models but £80? thats too much in my book.
I only paid £40 for all 11 of those house clearance vacs I bought the other day - including 3 500 series.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Benny - I note all that you say - but its the parts like the soleplate I'm after and these are the parts that are in short supply - Bags and belts will always be available, but its the actual parts like wheels, motors, etc that I mean.
I was looking for rear wheels for a 652A, but had no success for them either

 

[vintagerepairer]

Sir, I never get the hump. Life is too short to be cross, something I learnt years ago. And if I were to do so, it would not be amongst people I can't see.

You do seem to have answered your own dilemma here though. It's the price. I do of course realise that it soon adds up, and this is where I have so much admiration for those of you who really go to town on restoring your cleaners. From the photographs I have seen, it must have cost a small fortune. But my goodness, what a result.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Benny - I'm very shrewd - and wont pay high prices - not in this economic climate. I make do and mend and if filters are too dear - I cut up spare Miele filters I have or the likes and make them fit - thats what I did for the 500 that had no filter in the base, cut another premotor filter to size from a template 500 filter.

I wont support greedy dealers who try to cash in on a cleaner's rarity.
I find a good seller is LM Electrical in Bristol who are on Ebay, and they dont take the micky with prices - I use them a lot and they are reliable.
Have just ordered bags and belts for the 500 and bags and belts for the TP2, in addition, another belt for the Senior. All this came to about £13 inc postage.
I shop around - the best value gets the sale. The greedy get no business from me.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well you have heard my views on that in the past. A high price does not automatically mean a seller is greedy. No one can possibly say that without knowing the cost prices paid. If I am selling something for £10 which cost me £7.50, and someone else is selling the same item for £7.50 but they managed to get it for £2.50, that does not make me greedy. Arguably it doesn't make the other person greedy either of course, as the whole point of buying & selling is to make a profit. I did not run my shop for the love of the community. I must say that words like greedy are easy to use, but unless one knows all the circumstances it is also a hollow word too. And I am still not cross.

Then again, with so much still available online, few sellers will have the time to do detailed searches to see what prices are being charged. That's the job of the consumer. It always has been.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Yes Benny - but if LM Electrical can charge a price and make a profit, why cant, say, busybees charge the same - no they charge a lot more for everything. If you sell in bulk, prices can be lower, and that means happier customers. Wages are low now and utilities are expensive, that means people are more careful about finding bargains now - and some of these retailers need to get with the big picture - sell it at a reasonable price or go bust.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well, as I said, without knowing figures, I can't comment. If you have the cost prices available of the businesses you speak of then you are better placed to pass judgement than I am. I would be foolish to speak without the facts. Selling goods at high prices is not what makes companies go bust. They go bust when they don't make enough profit to make it worthwhile being in business. A lack of profit comes from more factors than is worth mentioning here. Far better I congratulate you on the goods you were able to source at a price you were happy with. It merely saddens me -having been in business myself for a long time- that your good fortune is off-set by having left a bad taste in your mouth about other retailers. I say leave them too it, don't worry about them (and don't insult them), just continue to build a great rapport with the bumpiness who you do enjoy trading with.

 

[vintagerepairer]

bumpiness. That's computers and poor eyesight for you. I wrote Businesses.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well even if EBAY UK might not come up trumps, at least there's Amazon UK for Z500 filters.

Being shrewd is all very well; however being tight is another issue. As VR says quite rightly, the mark up that companies make have to make something to stay in business. Just because the price changes, the packaging/delivery costs may be higher. Also there are other factors like how big a business is such as LM Electrical compared to busybees, or any other seller. Some just sell small amounts of spares compared to larger warehouse based company that happen to have the bonus of a page/account on EBAY UK.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fixed-Lower...GD2I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355060842&sr=8-1

 

[dysondestijl]

i have the electrolux twinturbo electronic delux- the only thig i hate about it is that stupid little hose clogs soooo easy! i had to dissassemble it all the other day, as the clog had gone up the spine of it too.
i do love the variable power too!
just to say thanks to James(kirbymodel2c) who gave it me as he had 2 of them.

 

[jmurray01]

Steve, as Ryan said - there is being shrewd and there is being downright tight.

For example, I could buy a pack of generic bags for my Hoover Turbopower 2 for a couple of Pounds or I could spend around £5 on genuine Hoover bags.

No doubt you would go for the former however if you wish to keep the vacuum running at peak condition for the longest time, you would be wrong to do so.

I only purchase genuine parts (when available of course) and if it costs more - so be it.

Now there is the subject of your local electricals store (which you are obviously biased in favour of) and the eBay seller "busybees" who I happen to have purchased an Electrolux 502 filter from earlier this year and couldn't praise them highly enough in my feedback.

They dispatched the filter very rapidly however after a few days it still had not arrived so I contacted them to see if they could shed some light on it and they said if it had not arrived by Friday (this was Wednesday) to contact them and they would send out another filter.

It still had not arrived by then and they sent another one out, no bother at all.

What you have to take into account also is how much "busybees" has paid for their items opposed to your LM Electricals.

It is all well and good to say "well LM Electricals sells the same item cheaper so "busybees" must be ripping people off" but it is actually very inane to say such a thing because LM Electricals may be paying half what "busybees" is paying for their items.

What would you want them to do? Make a loss just to match a retailer who, of course, does not give the advantage of delivery via Royal Mail to your home?

I won't say "please think before you post in future" because we all know that would be hypocritical of me but you have to understand Benny's very legitimate points as well.

As for insinuating Benny had "the hump", I would be quite insulted if I were him, but that is just a side note.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm "having a go" at you but I just felt the need to express my feelings on this matter.

 

[sebo_fan]

The thing is, what price constitutes as a reasonable price, and one that will still make a profit? Its all very well if you're a large company who can afford to buy in bulk and thus also be able to afford to mark up prices on other products like other appliances instead of consumables like vacuum cleaner bags and filters.

One has to bear in mind that even if a company choose to sell a product, they can choose to sell whatever price they like. No company is ever the same - witness the big name stores trying to challenge each other on pricing strategies - one reason alone to why John Lewis continually have special buying days when a rival company sell a product for far cheaper.

It does not make any business sense to offer the same price from all companies. Companies would eventually go bust if all they did was apply cheap prices to products and not make a profit margin.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Jamie - you are talking nonsense!
Who said that LM Electrical was my local retailer? I live in Stoke and not Bristol - LM Electrical is an ebay trader the same as busy bees, and LM Electrical have always been helpful and send most things first class and free P&P.

Its you who is trying to inflame the matter here - dont you remember why you got banned before?

If you want to pay through the nose for the same items from Busy bees, then you go right ahead - but if no-one paid inflated prices, they couldnt charge them.

I never said cheapest is best - but compare like for like, and the cheaper supplier gets my business. If Busybees cant do cheap prices, then maybe they need to look at making their business more efficient.

I cant believe your arrogant attitude on that last posting. I just dont understand you, and I stuck up for you previously as well - never again Jamie.

 

[jmurray01]

My apologies, I did not realise LM Electrical was an eBay seller, however my point still stands - you cannot slander one seller because they charge more without understanding WHY the other seller may charge more.

I thought there was a thing called free speech? If that is called arrogant now then that's me told.

I really couldn't care less quite frankly as there is a lot more important things in life than an internet forum which I find myself frequenting less and less these days.

Good day.

 

[madabouthoovers]

You didnt realise that LM Electrical was an Ebay seller? Whose fault was that then?

My point still stands as well - This is an age of Austerity Jamie - until you start having to pay for your own bills and rent, then realise that other people are not made of money and prepared to fork out more than necessary to expensive places like Busy Bees.

If you dont like Vacuumland, then dont visit here. If you do, please keep your sharp tongue in check.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well look, recent politics and comments aside, gentlemen, it is interesting I find that the subject of financial cut-backs and savings have been brought into the same debate about what one pays for goods. One of the very reasons for the appalling state of this countries economy is due to the very fact that many governments who have been in power have always been so very keen for businesses to charge as little as they like and for the consumer to go to who they want to. This has led to much consumer-driven price cuts and stupidly low prices by retailers. There are of course so very many factors which have compounded our current economical situation, but a good deal of it has been bought on by ourselves. The UK consumer has an awful lot to answer for.