The cordless stick vac formfactor

[Vacuum Facts]

Does anyone know if there's any major company which hasn’t now produced a cordless stick vac dupe?

It's quite interesting reflecting on the history of the formfactor. Dyson invented it with the DC35. When the V10 came out and was marketed as a true mains replacement, it was positively loathed by a small but very vocal crowd who swore until the swollen veins on their foreheads burst that it would die out, citing little more than aerodynamic metrics that don’t directly relate to cleaning performance, as well as it being bagless, messy, and underpowered. According to the Aerus model associated with a recent thread that got me thinking, despite those same core metrics in that product being literally less than the V10's all the way back in 2018, the manufacturer claims it has “all the power of a high-performance vacuum” (note they didn't say it has high performance), offers “efficient deep cleaning”, there’s “no contact with dirt and dust”, and there are “no expensive bag changes”. I noticed it was in such conflict with the vocal statements made against the still better-specced V10 and that are now absent in contrast. Very interesting reflecting on the behaviour of history and what it really revealed. That the stick vac formfactor seems universally duped says something about the original idea.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

So, I left this for a month to see what would accumulate. It's absolutely striking that not a single example could be provided of a company that hasn't now duped the stickvac formfactor. That deafening silence reveals so much, alluded to above.

 

[cheesewonton]

Sigh. You know so little. Lewyt, Hoover, Regina and Electrolux Inc. ( the US Electrolux ) all had the 1940s, 50s and 60s equivalent of a stick vac. It looked like a little hand held canister vac with a handle on one end and a wand with a hard floor brush on the other. In Europe Vorwerk Kobold and Miele also had similar vacuums. Dyson has literally invented nothing. All they do is copy what has often been around for decades, and that includes cyclonic filtering as that has been around in the wood working industry and milling for well over a century.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

It doesn't appear as though there's appreciation of what Dyson invented and patented—even though the records are in the public domain for anyone to fact check. They didn't invent cyclones—this is a staggering misunderstanding that is ripe in many circles I've observed—they invented a means to achieve cyclonic filtration within the vacuum cleaner product class, which hadn't been done before. That is a distinct invention—for obvious reasons; the sawmill cyclones don't filter out microscopic dust and wouldn't work.

Do you have any links to confirm there's isn't a similar misunderstanding and false equivalence RE the "equivalent of a stick vac" referenced above, and apples aren't being misidentified as oranges again? I'd like to read up on it, as there are very clear criteria that define a battery operated stick vac with a high speed and power dense motor in the hand. It's obvious what I'm referring to in the OP, since the ubiqitous rise of the stickvac has been since the DC35.

 

[cheesewonton]

Vintage Hoover Quik Broom.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0dAAAeSwUVhoj8vy/s-l1600.webp

The stick vac before it was called that. Every company sold something like this.

 

[cheesewonton]

Regina Electrikbroom. This one is dirty fan.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pOUAAeSwsH1odVri/s-l1600.webp

 

[Vacuum Facts]

Ok, I think you misunderstand the definition of a stick vac. Those examples you provided are slim mains powered uprights.

A stick vac, as defined and understood, is, as discussed above, a product that is battery powered containing a high speed, power-dense motor in the hand, with modular wand and floor head components. You know, the very thing not seen before the DC35 and that everyone has since duped in a very short timescale. Apples and oranges, as predicted.

I'm looking for popular manufacturers (with significant market share) which have not yet duped Dyson's pioneering idea, if you know of any.

 

[cheesewonton]

1907 Queen, manual vacuum.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/eb8AAeSwRUJohAru/s-l1600.webp

 

[cheesewonton]

Ok, I think you misunderstand the definition of a stick vac. Those examples you provided are slim mains powered uprights.

A stick vac, as defined and understood, is, as discussed above, a product that is battery powered containing a high speed, power-dense motor in the hand, with modular wand and floor head components. You know, the very thing not seen before the DC35 and that everyone has since duped in a very short timescale.

Then you misunderstood. You don't get to define what a stick vac is.

 

[Vacuum Facts]

You don't get to define what a stick vac is.

We'll ignore you're doing exactly that.

To avoid locking horns over nomenclature, I (and everyone else in the manufacturing world) define a stick vac as I did above, and not as the products you linked to. Now you understand the definition and product class I'm referring to, if you know of any manufacturers, as in the very first post, let me know.