madaboutsebo
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That’s totally true tolivac, that’s what SEBO is all about! If it’s not broke don’t fix it as the saying goes! Be interesting to hear when the X7 will be available for you!
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gsheen
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I have a x4 and again like many have said I have never been very impressed with its cleaning ability, Now the G1 with its manual height adjustment does a much better job, The problem is that the electronic height adjustment is constantly fiddling and never gets close enough to properly clean,
I dont like the short hose but do love the wand.
Again as said above Short of a Royal not much will last as long in cleaning ladys hands.
I co own a cleaning company and we have a few G1's and some x4's. I always disconnect the auto height on the x4's and set the height myself and leave it their. I love their ease of maintenance, brushes change in a instant and so does the cord handle assy , I keep some spare and fix the cord on the broken ones but when we get the call a machines cord is broken its so simple to fix, less down time.
I will say that the thing I like the most about them is the lack of complaints from customers, These are very quiet vacuums. If it were us up to me all the staff would be using Royals, I love them their power their durability and how purposeful they look on sight but that said I have head helicopters that are quieter.
In the cleaning business with offices your biggest complaint is noisy vacuums The sebo never gets complaints,
To give you an idea of the quality I have two sebo 360's They are 30 years old now and still runn every day, One just got a new motor , Its first new motor and that was because the Com on the armiture had worn away from all the use, I always just changed the carbon brushes but finally 30 years on a new motor was needed .
I dont like the short hose but do love the wand.
Again as said above Short of a Royal not much will last as long in cleaning ladys hands.
I co own a cleaning company and we have a few G1's and some x4's. I always disconnect the auto height on the x4's and set the height myself and leave it their. I love their ease of maintenance, brushes change in a instant and so does the cord handle assy , I keep some spare and fix the cord on the broken ones but when we get the call a machines cord is broken its so simple to fix, less down time.
I will say that the thing I like the most about them is the lack of complaints from customers, These are very quiet vacuums. If it were us up to me all the staff would be using Royals, I love them their power their durability and how purposeful they look on sight but that said I have head helicopters that are quieter.
In the cleaning business with offices your biggest complaint is noisy vacuums The sebo never gets complaints,
To give you an idea of the quality I have two sebo 360's They are 30 years old now and still runn every day, One just got a new motor , Its first new motor and that was because the Com on the armiture had worn away from all the use, I always just changed the carbon brushes but finally 30 years on a new motor was needed .
vacuumdevil
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Is the European Union killing off good vacuum Motors?
I've noticed a lot of vacuum in the factors are selling rebuilt vacuums to get around the regulations.
I've noticed a lot of vacuum in the factors are selling rebuilt vacuums to get around the regulations.
crazykirbydude
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Windsor should update the XP12 with this vacuum.
Looks like a rebadged Commercial Windsor sensor vacuum. I have used them. Not impressive machines to me.
http://https//evacuumstore.com/p-16629-windsor-sensor-xp-15-commercial-upright.aspx
http://https//evacuumstore.com/p-16629-windsor-sensor-xp-15-commercial-upright.aspx
An "A" rating for dust filtration. A "D" rating for carpet cleaning. Seriously!!!!! Oh sign me up I want to throw a way a bank roll on this. And the automatic height adjustment fails miserably to keep pace with how fast you can push and pull it across the floor. It determines the "proper height" based on the load on the agitator. So there is never a tight seal to the surface being cleaned. Which explains the "D" rating for carpet cleaning.
blakaeg
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Umm a Dyson Light Ball gets a 'C' rating for carpet. Shouldn't you be asking why a Dyson doesn't get an 'A' for the claims they make about their 'wonderful technology'?
Also, the X7 has a different programming sequence and adjust itself with different logic. It does not work in the same way as their previous models did with their heads going to and down continuously. You also forgot to mention the X4 Boost models get a 'B' rating on carpet. The same will be on the X7 Boost models obviously.
Also, the X7 has a different programming sequence and adjust itself with different logic. It does not work in the same way as their previous models did with their heads going to and down continuously. You also forgot to mention the X4 Boost models get a 'B' rating on carpet. The same will be on the X7 Boost models obviously.
sensotronic
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It's strange that despite all these imrovements, the dust pick up from carpets is a D rating compared to the X1.1 which gets a C and why should a consumer have to pay £100 more for a boost model to get a better carpet cleaning score. Another backward step on the X7 is the lack of a handle lock that enabled the user to lift the head up while vacuuming to get onto a rug. Now you have to put the cleaner fully into the upright position and tilt it back.
rolls_rapide
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"the lack of a handle lock..."
Agreed. For every step forwards, there's two steps backwards.
The 45 degree handle lock is the most user-friendly feature in a decent upright. One-handed operation of negotiating carpet fringes, area rug edges and doorway threshold strips - simply by pushing down on the handle, pivoting the head on its rear wheels, allowing the front of the machine to clear the obstacle.
The X4 had a user-switchable feature and thus was suitable for both the people who like the handle lock, and the folk who like constant fluid motion.
Who's the bloody idiot who decided to remove the feature?
Agreed. For every step forwards, there's two steps backwards.
The 45 degree handle lock is the most user-friendly feature in a decent upright. One-handed operation of negotiating carpet fringes, area rug edges and doorway threshold strips - simply by pushing down on the handle, pivoting the head on its rear wheels, allowing the front of the machine to clear the obstacle.
The X4 had a user-switchable feature and thus was suitable for both the people who like the handle lock, and the folk who like constant fluid motion.
Who's the bloody idiot who decided to remove the feature?
sound of the motor
That video was interesting, I think the X7 kind of sounds like a dirty air machine such as a Kirby or Royal. It's a clean air design of course but the sound kind of reminds me of those dirty air machines. We don't have the same power restrictions in the United States so it will be interesting to see what the X7 uses if it becomes available here. I have no interest in getting one since I'm a canister only person, but if I had to have an upright I would probably choose the Sebo felix.
Mike
That video was interesting, I think the X7 kind of sounds like a dirty air machine such as a Kirby or Royal. It's a clean air design of course but the sound kind of reminds me of those dirty air machines. We don't have the same power restrictions in the United States so it will be interesting to see what the X7 uses if it becomes available here. I have no interest in getting one since I'm a canister only person, but if I had to have an upright I would probably choose the Sebo felix.
Mike
madaboutsebo
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Not sure what SEBO reasoning for removing the handle lock, they must have their reasons for doing so I’m sure! It might just be because they put the new handle release pedal on which doesn’t or can’t accommodate that feature!? The new handle release pedal is the same as the Evoloution in that if the user forces the handle/body down without using the foot pedal the handle will release without causing any damage to the machine/main body! SEBO may have seem issues with users doing this on the X4 model hence the foot pedal change!?
Not sure why the carpet performance is different between the X1.1 and X7 but SEBO would be using the standard EU tests they have to carry out and the rating came out as D. One thing SEBO don’t tend to do is manufacture/design a machine to suit the EU tests the manufacturers have to carry out for the energy labelling from what I’m told/heard.
Not sure why the carpet performance is different between the X1.1 and X7 but SEBO would be using the standard EU tests they have to carry out and the rating came out as D. One thing SEBO don’t tend to do is manufacture/design a machine to suit the EU tests the manufacturers have to carry out for the energy labelling from what I’m told/heard.
manchestervacs
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Lots of differing views here I see. We sell Sebo as some will know (Olga in the first video is my wife and that video is in our shop).
What I can tell you is that people are starting to buy the X7, and we have had no complaints. If any of the UK folks here want one, I'll do you a keen price.
We have also sent our first one to the US, Dupage Vacuums in Illinois has one from us.
What I can tell you is that people are starting to buy the X7, and we have had no complaints. If any of the UK folks here want one, I'll do you a keen price.
We have also sent our first one to the US, Dupage Vacuums in Illinois has one from us.
where is she from
Wondering where Olga is from, couldn't place the accent. Is the machine that was sent to the United States a 120 volt machine? I'm assuming they have to use completely different motors for the United States market, I wish we used 240 volts here, it's actually more efficient than 120.
Mike
Wondering where Olga is from, couldn't place the accent. Is the machine that was sent to the United States a 120 volt machine? I'm assuming they have to use completely different motors for the United States market, I wish we used 240 volts here, it's actually more efficient than 120.
Mike
manchestervacs
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N0oxy, her accent if Russian.
The X7 machine we sent to Illinois was indeed a standard European voltage one. I assume he has a 240 outlet somewhere (dont you use them on ovens or such?) or a converter. I use a converter on my imported US machines.
The X7 machine we sent to Illinois was indeed a standard European voltage one. I assume he has a 240 outlet somewhere (dont you use them on ovens or such?) or a converter. I use a converter on my imported US machines.
240 volt outlets
Yes we do use those on some things, although I'm not sure if the plug is the same but an adapter could solve that issue. Electric stoves and driers are the main appliances that use 240 volt outlets here. I know they make converters to use 120 volt appliances on a 240 volt outlet, but are there converters to use a 240 device on a 120 volt outlet, I would think this would be more difficult since it's much easier to step a voltage down than to step it up.
Mike
Yes we do use those on some things, although I'm not sure if the plug is the same but an adapter could solve that issue. Electric stoves and driers are the main appliances that use 240 volt outlets here. I know they make converters to use 120 volt appliances on a 240 volt outlet, but are there converters to use a 240 device on a 120 volt outlet, I would think this would be more difficult since it's much easier to step a voltage down than to step it up.
Mike
sptyks
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Voltage Converter...
This unit will allow you to use any 240 volt vacuum cleaner on 120 volts:
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This unit will allow you to use any 240 volt vacuum cleaner on 120 volts:
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