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Vax may copy designs, but so do others. The Mach Air really impressed me. Good performance, quiet and cheaper to buy. I do not like their swivelling upright machines. The hose connector is rubbish and keeps popping off the wand handle. The Mach Air didnt do this and stayed firmly in place. A Mach Air will be my next machine when my DC24 blows up, forgot to mention the handle on my DC24 has broken for the 5th time. Luckily I have a spare one in the cupboard.

Dyson could bring manufacturing back of they really wanted to, but why should they, if they are making more money

producing in Malaysia, it makes business sense to keep it where it is.

I never look forward to emptying my Dyson indoors but replacing the bag in the Sebo was a breeze.
 
Because Dyson is in it for the money, not the job force! 
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Of course Vax are made in China, as are iPhones, but plenty of people have moaned and complained about iPhones being made in China, especially the conditions the workers are put through. They have nets around the buildings to catch the workers if they try to comet suicide. I need say no more.

There is no denying it, China is not like Korea and Japan when it comes to quality and giving the customer what they want. As much as it is the fault of western companies investing in China, there is a lot of spying that goes on at Chinese facilities, especially at car plants.

The Koreans and especially the Japanese have a knack similar to the Germans when it comes to creating something to the best of their ability. Quality is at the forefront, just look at what this ethic has done to their car industries. China have been making products for nearly as long as the Japanese and Koreans, yet the quality is still lacking in many aspects, yet the cost of the products do not equate to what you get. Hoover still want to charge £300 for a Chinese made vacuum. You can get a decent Miele or top of the line Sebo for that cash.

And also, dirt in bags does rot. You are picking up skin cells, dust, moulds and allergies among food crumbs and in some cases animal hair, which does decompose, although having S class and HEPA filters does more or less eliminate it.

One thing I have pondered over is although my dysons performance is very good, what is the point of picking up all them allergies and fine particles if they are going to fly up in the air and cover yourself in them? Even taking the bin outsides, I still get clouds of dust. It obviously depends on each household. At least with a bag you just wait for it to become full, seal the bag in which ever way and dump it.

Long story short, I can see the arguments on both sides, but as of recent, I am preferring bags.
 
Olive Oil the wheels do not protrude above the seals on the Dyson Floorhead this is why it does such a fantastic job on hard floors. If they protruded it would leave a gap and wouldn't clean so well.

And you still have to overlap your strokes with the Felix as the bristles don't reach to the edge of the floorhead on the right hand side where the belt is.

More rows of bristles possibly but you produced a video showing how fantastic the agitation is on the Dyson. Best i've seen on an upright.

I'[m an allergy sufferer so if i were getting a face full of dust when i empty the bin i would be sneezing terribly but i've not sneezed once.

The Dyson works amazingly well for me, i won't be changing until something better comes along. :)
 
Regarding bagless machines, Dyson machines today are good for emptying, its hygienic as the trigger to release the bin flap open is at the top of the handle, not down at the bottom where the dust is near your hand trying to press the button. You can just empty the vac outside, no problem. If it is windy, stand the other direction so that dust wont blow on you. If this is still a dilemma, amity the thing into a plastic bag which are free from supermarkets. Vacuum bags are a cost which can result in a sum of money overtime whereas there are no extra costs with some bagless machines (not the cheap ones).
 
BTW dont bagged vacuums release a dust cloud when you take the bag off? I mention this because. I have experienced this with the Henry, take the bag off and the bucket can get dusty , and yes I take the bags out with care and try to prevent this, but it still happens, the cover for the hole is so that your journey from the vacuum to the bin is dust free.
 
Super sweeper the DC41 Mk11 will not require new filters during the 5 year warranty period. The cyclones are so efficient now that they even filter down to 0.5 microns and the filters stay clean for long periods :-)
 
dont bagged vacuums release a dust cloud when you take the b

depends on the vacuum.


 


Miele bags seal automatically when you open the bag door.  Sebo bags have a plastic cover that goes on before you remove the bag from the holder. The Henry bags can cause some dust to leak, yes, but if you tip the bin on it's bag so the dust all drops to the back of the back before you take it off the holder, this doesn't happen.

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My filter has no dust on it in six weeks.

Six weeks? That short? Try three months - or so much with a lot of bagged vac filters that don't even get that dusty because the bag gets the most of the dust.

Anyway Henry's HEPA FLO bags have an outer seal that swings over and pushes in past the rubber seal. I haven't found any dust to leak out of those seals - perhaps with the paper bags in a Henry, but not the HEPA Flo types.

Whilst I agree with Chris here, a lot of brands are now offering the same approach as Miele, and even before Miele did the inner self seals, they had outer pull strips in the same way that Electrolux have offered as well as Hoover with their Purepower uprights and plenty of other brands. The amount of dust that comes off a bag is NOTHING compared to the amount of dust dumped on a floor on from a dust cloud when I've emptied bagless vacs in the past.

But then some owners just pull the bag roughly off the channel which casts a big cloud of unnecessary dust. As do owners who continually bang the bagless dust bin off the side of their refuse bin when dust gets stuck at the top of the shrouds.
 
6 weeks doesn't sound a lot, but with most bagless vacuums, dust starts visibly accumulating after the first couple of uses. 6 weeks and a clean filter is still impressive.

I have never had problems with dust clouds for bagged vacuums. Biggest problem I have had with bagged vacuums was the older paper ones which would split and the dirt would go everywhere, however the new, cloth type bags are much more durable, more hygienic and loose less suction and are generally more efficient. I prefer sebo bags in terms of sealing in the dirt, although it is a flap you have to put on yourself like the numatic bags, it cover the hole itself, rather than mieles flap which is spring loaded from the inside, and I found that my S7, the bag would accumulate near this flap and it didn't make a proper seal as the flap would close, but dirt would stop it from closing properly.

I did moan about the SEBO bags leaking pet hairs, although I have replaced the bag when I gave it to my sister, and she has 2 cats and 2 dogs and there is no leaking whatsoever, so maybe it was a "bad batch".
 
Some people may complain about Iphones being made in China but its not affected Apple sales. What happens when a new one comes out? Theres a mad rush and they are sold out. Not much one can do when increasing about of goods are being made there.

Back on the subject of SEBO. I enjoyed the K1 red machine which performed quite well but I don't understand why the power control is set to Anti Clockwise for MAX and Clockwise for LOW power. The cable rewind released by slightly tugging on the cord, I don't really like this design as the cord starts to go back in when I have caught it under a chair leg for example. But the rest of the machine felt very sturdy and I love how quiet the machine is, even on its full power setting. My Dyson DC24 is so much more noisier.

The Felix Classic is 7 years old now and still performs very well. It has all its original parts and the filters have not been replaced yet. The family love their X1 machine which is fantastic again. Prefer an X1 over any X4.
 

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