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This is great! But the true question is, when will Eureka be returning to Montgomery Ward? 
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Yes your are correct Sebo Fan the C1 has the 350-3 floorhead. I missed that.

But the 650-3 floorhead is supposed to have better pick up giving the same performance as the 1600w motor using a 700w or 800w motor.

Whether it does i don't know as i've not tried it.
 
Miele claim all sorts of things - as an experienced owner - you have to take everything with a pinch of salt. Personally I find the double pedal AirTeq floor heads don't make much of a difference compared to standard suction combi floor heads.

For the same cost price, SEBO's patented Deluxe Kombi is better in my experience, plus it goes flat to the floor due to its double jointed neck.
 
I shall stick with my standard floorhead then Sebo Fan :-)

Oliveoil are you going off the Dyson now then?
 
I thought about buying a new Felix, but to be honest my old one keeps on going. I see no point in buying a new one, though I would be interested to know, obviously what you think of the new Eco motor when you do get it, Oli.

Im ever so happy with my old 360. I initially thought it would be too big for my home but I have been pleasantly surprised. Just does what I want it to do, and has better performance than the X1 due to it having a manual height adjustment.
 
Ooo let you us know oliveoiltinfoil hoe the new Felix Vogue with the new Eco motor is like sebo_fan says. Be interesting to know how it performs. Not had chance to go and try out these new Eco models from SEBO.
 
I reserved it today, picking it up tomorrow (it is now 11:05 pm on Friday 31st. Happy Halloween everyone :)

Hmm, not really, marcusprit. I love the dyson. It cleans wonderfully and is certainly the best bagless vacuum I have used, but since having a lot of family over recently due to my dad passing away, and how much more messy the house has got, and the more often I have had to empty the bin, the less I am liking bagless machines, but I knew this anyway. It is like I said, you cant have it all ways. With bagless vacuums, we know there is this problems, with bags, you have rotting filth for weeks at a time, but having a charcoal filter reduces this a lot I must say. I just love the felix and have never said otherwise.

Yes, the felix has a couple of problems, the dyson does, but the felix is a classic all rounder, can do it all. VW Golf of vacuums - German quality and efficiency in a package a lot of people can use and get hold of, if this makes sense.

I am getting the vogue because the colour scheme looks really nice, and different.
 
Sorry to hear of your loss oliveoiltinfoil. I know where your coming from with regards to emptying a bagless vacuum. Must admit I don't miss emptying one. Your right they both have their issues bag or bagless.

Nice choice the Felix Vogue. Look forward to hearing what you think of the Eco version of the Felix Vogue.
 
I'm also sorry to hear of your loss. A very difficult time :-(

Can't say I have a problem emptying the bin. I find it easy. I wrap a bag around it tightly give it a shake then seal the bag with a clip throw it in the wheely bin. I'm happy to wave goodbye to the dirt n dust every week instead of it rotting in the bag for months on end.

I'm so impressed with this Dyson not sure I'll ever go back to a bagged upright again. It's the best vacuum cleaner I've used up to now :-)
 
Ahh thank you everyone. Yes, I am not only worrying about vacuum cleaners. He did pass a few weeks back, but life goes on. Just gotta move forward !

Anyways yes, it is hard for me to say which I prefer. Bagless is obviously the less expensive option, although bagged vacuums, especially SEBO bags are to be honest inexpensive to replace given how long they last. They work out at just over £1 per bag.

I'm picking it up later on, and shall post a thread once I have done so !
 
Be interesting to see how the 700w motor compared to the 1300w. Might not be as much difference as you'd expect :-) Enjoy!
 
Should be available in February. Might get the power nozzle model E3 I think it's going to be called. I know you're not a fan of power nozzles on cylinder cleaners but I prefer them to the noisy turbo brush. :-)
 
dirt n dust every week instead of it rotting in the bag

I'm the complete opposite. I'm highly allergic to dust allergens. I once had to empty a friends Argos Value bagless vac and was ill for 3 days afterwards.


 


I like the fact that all that dust and dirt is contained in a bag and not going anywhere. The minute you hit the bin release button on your bagless vac, you lose that sealed system and end up with leaks. It's unavoidable. I much prefer to put the bag seal on the Sebo bag and chuck it straight into the bin, not coming into any contact with that dust.

If you're already emptying your bagless bin into a bag, what's the point in using a bagless vacuum? Cut out the middle process and you cut out the inconvenience of having to empty it every week.
 
I have allergies too. But as I say I hold the bag tight around the bin then seal the bag. I don't come into contact with the dust.
If I can find a bagged upright with the same performance, as easy to manoeuvre and the same level of filtration then I will change back to bagged. But right now nothing I've seen beats this Dyson in my opinion.
Maybe the Riccar would by they are only available in the US.
 
Noisy turbo brushes...

Well, in light of the fact that most vacuums now come with lower motors, not all turbo brushes are noisier. Or so I have found recently.

You might not personally come into contact with any dust, but bagless is still messy. Dyson and others make great claims about bottom trapdoor releases, but if you dump the dust into a kitchen bag, the dust goes everywhere in terms of dust clouds. Same with putting the dust into another bag before tying it up and shoving that into a kitchen bin.

I do have bagless vacuums though - they are worth considering for cheap and cheerful usage as well as other variations of usage such as cordless dust busters.
 
I've Find emptying my Dyson perfectly fine It never flies in my face and it's really Easy. I empty mind in my Room In a Little Bin. Is super easy and it doesn't fires in my face or other vacuums.
 
I empty the bin in my garden. The use a very long bag and I've noticed any dust clouds possibly cause I empty it when there's not a lot of dust in the bin.

I wouldn't say it was cheap n cheerful I would say it is very well engineered
Not as well built as Sebo but if I get 5 years use out of it I'll be more than happy
 
Very well put Turbo500. I couldn't have said it better myself.


 


Marcusprit: Surely the Sebo Felix or X4 performs as well or better than the Dyson and would eliminate that 3rd step of emptying the dirt bin into a bag then disposing the bag. Most dust clouds are INVISIBLE and always happen whenever you empty a bagless vac into a wast basket. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. That dust just reappears on top of your furniture in a couple of days, then you have to vacuum it up all over again. When I vacuum my home with my Kirby Sentria, I KNOW my home is CLEAN!


 


 
 
I have a Felix I like it very much but it doesn't have the airflow and agitation of the Dyson if it did I would use it as my daily driver.
Anyway we all have our preferences I never used to rate Dyson but now I think they are EXCELLENT.
 
The Dyson is also easier to manoeuvre has better filtration a better hose assembly and edge cleaning on both sides. So in my humble opinion the Dyson wins :-)
 
Is edge clean so well it Ashley it has got two little to agitators on both sides to agitate the dirt away from the side.
 
It all comes down to personal usage and what you like as per the design. However there are other considerations to take on board.

I don't think I would have a Dyson upright again - I find them too abrasive and whilst they may well have softer brush rolls these days, the fact that there's always that forceful suction that can't be adjusted means my wool carpets and other loop carpets are in danger of being ripped to shreds.

This is the reality of what happens when homes are required to have heavier, warmer carpets in colder conditions and if you have paid for the carpet YOURSELF.

I agree here with Sptyks in terms of actual invisible dust in the air

If you want a shocker invest in any one of those cheap globe fresh air machines. You'll be shocked once you go past them with a bagless vacuum. more so than one with a bag - the amount of dust particles that those machines catch and suck up out of the air is remarkable.
 
I have to disagree ever so slightly on the dyson's performance. In my honest opinion, the felix and dyson are very much neck and neck. They both win, in the own way, if this makes sense.

I love the dysons agitation. The suction at the head is the best I have ever come across on a vacuum. The agitation is very good. However, I have found on very low pile carpeting (I have kitchen carpet in the, yeah, kitchen!) it doesn't do as well, as the head is elevated slightly with the tiny wheels on the head. I think the bristles could do with being fuller and maybe two rows, and longer. What I most dislike about the dyson is probably the massive brush motor belt thing which leaves and inch of carpet ungroomed, and although I overlap my strokes, it is not a clean sweep. It means when you over lap, you have to make sure you go over the bit which is missed.

The felix on the other hand still has very good suction, even at the cleaner head, although it isn't as well sealed, which is a good and bad thing. It doesn't snow plough at all, and although you can change the slider on the dyson, when you do this, you loose a lot of suction.
The felix is much simpler in design, which a lot will like, in terms of how it performs. It is a large brushroll, thick with long stiff bristles, 2 rows and there are a lot of bristles.

With the sebo, you obviously do get a decrease in suction as the bag fills, but it is nothing on the scale bagged vacuum used to be with paper bags.

And as sebo_fan said, we are vacuum enthusiasts and not the average consumer. We love vacuums, not just one particular brand. Dyson and Sebo are my favourites for their respected type (bagged and bagless)

I have disregarded modern day Candy Hoover, Morphy Richards, Russell Hobbs, Samsung and Vax to producing cheap, throw away vacuums. I find Hoovers to be very over priced for what they are. Vax typically are well priced. None of these manfuacturers make "original" genuine vacs, rather produced by a third party somewhere in China. With dyson, Sebo, Numatic and Miele you are buying in house designed and made vacuums. Thing is, some hoover and vax products are as expensive as mieles and sebo's, but you are buying Chinese quality, not German or British quality.
 

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