SEBO returns to Argos

[marcusprit]

I'm also sorry to hear of your loss. A very difficult time :-(

Can't say I have a problem emptying the bin. I find it easy. I wrap a bag around it tightly give it a shake then seal the bag with a clip throw it in the wheely bin. I'm happy to wave goodbye to the dirt n dust every week instead of it rotting in the bag for months on end.

I'm so impressed with this Dyson not sure I'll ever go back to a bagged upright again. It's the best vacuum cleaner I've used up to now

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Ahh thank you everyone. Yes, I am not only worrying about vacuum cleaners. He did pass a few weeks back, but life goes on. Just gotta move forward !

Anyways yes, it is hard for me to say which I prefer. Bagless is obviously the less expensive option, although bagged vacuums, especially SEBO bags are to be honest inexpensive to replace given how long they last. They work out at just over £1 per bag.

I'm picking it up later on, and shall post a thread once I have done so !

 

[marcusprit]

Be interesting to see how the 700w motor compared to the 1300w. Might not be as much difference as you'd expect Enjoy!

 

[sebo_fan]

Dont forget Marcus - we are all collectors - so, even if Oli adored the Dyson, the love for purchasing new vacs is never far away.

I was talking to a rep the other day regarding the SEBO E Airbelt - it has a ONE TOUCH cord rewind button. So relieved, so yes, I will be buying a SEBO E as soon as they arrive in the UK!

 

[marcusprit]

Yes I'm looking forward to the E series. Will it have an exhaust filter similar to the D series?

 

[sebo_fan]

Im not sure. As far as I understand, it may use the same dust bags as the K series or filter cartridge. Im told it is also very quiet in use.

 

[marcusprit]

Should be available in February. Might get the power nozzle model E3 I think it's going to be called. I know you're not a fan of power nozzles on cylinder cleaners but I prefer them to the noisy turbo brush.

 

[turbo500]

dirt n dust every week instead of it rotting in the bag

I'm the complete opposite. I'm highly allergic to dust allergens. I once had to empty a friends Argos Value bagless vac and was ill for 3 days afterwards.


 


I like the fact that all that dust and dirt is contained in a bag and not going anywhere. The minute you hit the bin release button on your bagless vac, you lose that sealed system and end up with leaks. It's unavoidable. I much prefer to put the bag seal on the Sebo bag and chuck it straight into the bin, not coming into any contact with that dust.

If you're already emptying your bagless bin into a bag, what's the point in using a bagless vacuum? Cut out the middle process and you cut out the inconvenience of having to empty it every week.

 

[marcusprit]

I have allergies too. But as I say I hold the bag tight around the bin then seal the bag. I don't come into contact with the dust.
If I can find a bagged upright with the same performance, as easy to manoeuvre and the same level of filtration then I will change back to bagged. But right now nothing I've seen beats this Dyson in my opinion.
Maybe the Riccar would by they are only available in the US.

 

[sebo_fan]

Noisy turbo brushes...

Well, in light of the fact that most vacuums now come with lower motors, not all turbo brushes are noisier. Or so I have found recently.

You might not personally come into contact with any dust, but bagless is still messy. Dyson and others make great claims about bottom trapdoor releases, but if you dump the dust into a kitchen bag, the dust goes everywhere in terms of dust clouds. Same with putting the dust into another bag before tying it up and shoving that into a kitchen bin.

I do have bagless vacuums though - they are worth considering for cheap and cheerful usage as well as other variations of usage such as cordless dust busters.

 

[dys0nb0y]

I've Find emptying my Dyson perfectly fine It never flies in my face and it's really Easy. I empty mind in my Room In a Little Bin. Is super easy and it doesn't fires in my face or other vacuums.

 

[marcusprit]

I empty the bin in my garden. The use a very long bag and I've noticed any dust clouds possibly cause I empty it when there's not a lot of dust in the bin.

I wouldn't say it was cheap n cheerful I would say it is very well engineered
Not as well built as Sebo but if I get 5 years use out of it I'll be more than happy

 

[marcusprit]

I haven't noticed any dust clouds I should have said. I agree with you Dyson boy

 

[sptyks]

Very well put Turbo500. I couldn't have said it better myself.


 


Marcusprit: Surely the Sebo Felix or X4 performs as well or better than the Dyson and would eliminate that 3rd step of emptying the dirt bin into a bag then disposing the bag. Most dust clouds are INVISIBLE and always happen whenever you empty a bagless vac into a wast basket. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. That dust just reappears on top of your furniture in a couple of days, then you have to vacuum it up all over again. When I vacuum my home with my Kirby Sentria, I KNOW my home is CLEAN!


 


 

 

[dys0nb0y]

Thanks I Empty mine when it's completely fall and nothing poofs anywhere.

 

[marcusprit]

I have a Felix I like it very much but it doesn't have the airflow and agitation of the Dyson if it did I would use it as my daily driver.
Anyway we all have our preferences I never used to rate Dyson but now I think they are EXCELLENT.

 

[marcusprit]

The Dyson is also easier to manoeuvre has better filtration a better hose assembly and edge cleaning on both sides. So in my humble opinion the Dyson wins

 

[dys0nb0y]

Is edge clean so well it Ashley it has got two little to agitators on both sides to agitate the dirt away from the side.

 

[sebo_fan]

It all comes down to personal usage and what you like as per the design. However there are other considerations to take on board.

I don't think I would have a Dyson upright again - I find them too abrasive and whilst they may well have softer brush rolls these days, the fact that there's always that forceful suction that can't be adjusted means my wool carpets and other loop carpets are in danger of being ripped to shreds.

This is the reality of what happens when homes are required to have heavier, warmer carpets in colder conditions and if you have paid for the carpet YOURSELF.

I agree here with Sptyks in terms of actual invisible dust in the air

If you want a shocker invest in any one of those cheap globe fresh air machines. You'll be shocked once you go past them with a bagless vacuum. more so than one with a bag - the amount of dust particles that those machines catch and suck up out of the air is remarkable.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I have to disagree ever so slightly on the dyson's performance. In my honest opinion, the felix and dyson are very much neck and neck. They both win, in the own way, if this makes sense.

I love the dysons agitation. The suction at the head is the best I have ever come across on a vacuum. The agitation is very good. However, I have found on very low pile carpeting (I have kitchen carpet in the, yeah, kitchen!) it doesn't do as well, as the head is elevated slightly with the tiny wheels on the head. I think the bristles could do with being fuller and maybe two rows, and longer. What I most dislike about the dyson is probably the massive brush motor belt thing which leaves and inch of carpet ungroomed, and although I overlap my strokes, it is not a clean sweep. It means when you over lap, you have to make sure you go over the bit which is missed.

The felix on the other hand still has very good suction, even at the cleaner head, although it isn't as well sealed, which is a good and bad thing. It doesn't snow plough at all, and although you can change the slider on the dyson, when you do this, you loose a lot of suction.
The felix is much simpler in design, which a lot will like, in terms of how it performs. It is a large brushroll, thick with long stiff bristles, 2 rows and there are a lot of bristles.

With the sebo, you obviously do get a decrease in suction as the bag fills, but it is nothing on the scale bagged vacuum used to be with paper bags.

And as sebo_fan said, we are vacuum enthusiasts and not the average consumer. We love vacuums, not just one particular brand. Dyson and Sebo are my favourites for their respected type (bagged and bagless)

I have disregarded modern day Candy Hoover, Morphy Richards, Russell Hobbs, Samsung and Vax to producing cheap, throw away vacuums. I find Hoovers to be very over priced for what they are. Vax typically are well priced. None of these manfuacturers make "original" genuine vacs, rather produced by a third party somewhere in China. With dyson, Sebo, Numatic and Miele you are buying in house designed and made vacuums. Thing is, some hoover and vax products are as expensive as mieles and sebo's, but you are buying Chinese quality, not German or British quality.