SEBO returns to Argos

[sebo_fan]

They do, but my personal tastes come down to Miele, whose present range is slightly better than the SEBO K series.

The K has been out for so long that I have gone through 3 different models, all of them suffering from the awful pull-pull cord rewind. I really hope that this new SEBO E model doesn't have a pull-pull cord rewind and goes back to a push button.

The D series is big and sufficient though - a premium step up from a Henry vacuum in my experience.

With Miele, you need to know the size of your home when justifying the different models and bag sizes. Ive been able to get a bit more than just 3 months from the current bag in my S8 and I'm impressed with the design.

 

[marcusprit]

I hate pull cords so annoying! I have an S8 it's excellent. The new 3D bags last even longer and suction/airflow and filtration are hard to beat. Not sure about the models with the airteq floor head though. I use either the standard combo tool or my battery powered accu Nova. I don't like the noise of turbo brushes.

 

[sebo_fan]

Having had the heavy experience already with the old S6 Ecoline I had and the AirTeq twin pedalled floor head, I have a small range of older Miele suction only floor heads that can be used with the S8. Much prefer the older ones - the AirTeq double pedal ones are far too heavy, even if they are more durable - in my experience.

 

[marcusprit]

I prefer the standard floorhead that came with my S5. The Airteq is supposed to have better pick up to compensate for the lower power motors. I haven't tried one so i don't know if this is true?

 

[sebo_fan]

Miele claimed that the double pedal AirTeq head could clean up pet hairs. Not with me. I find it too bulky as well. Their thinner "AirTeq" branded single pedal floor head supplied with the S8 now, is ok. I bought one last year as a replacement for my old S5211 and before I sold it on, no different to the previous ones, really.

 

[marcusprit]

In 2017 when the motors will be capped at 900w all the mieles will probably have the Airteq double pedal floorhead apart from the electric power head model. Unless they come up with something new.

 

[sebo_fan]

I cant say I agree because both Morphy Richards, Numatic and even AEG are already beginning to use the same Wessel Werk floor head that Bosch, Miele and SEBO have always used. I can't see how it would benefit Miele owners to have the much heavier floor head. In reality I find that the standard Miele floor heads offer just as good a cleaning performance than the double pedal floor head.

 

[marcusprit]

Well it seems Miele use the double pedal floorhead on all their 700w and 700w motors because they say it gives the same performance as the 1600w motor. Eco line and silence. They only use the standard floorhead on the 1600w motor.

 

[marcusprit]

That should say 700w and 800w

 

[sebo_fan]

Not quite - the C1 Ecoline or otherwise known as the S2 model that has an 800 watt motor makes do with Miele's budget plastic floor head, the 350-3 floor head.

Miele's 2 pedalled floor head would only be fitted to higher end models.

Miele may be expensive but they are known to cap certain specs per models - otherwise there would be no point in going for higher priced models, if the floor heads were all the same with an Eco range.

In SEBO's defence, the K series have certain different characteristics - the K1 base model has a 1.8 metre hose, all others have a 2.1 metre hose.

 

[super-sweeper]

This is great! But the true question is, when will Eureka be returning to Montgomery Ward? 

 

[marcusprit]

Yes your are correct Sebo Fan the C1 has the 350-3 floorhead. I missed that.

But the 650-3 floorhead is supposed to have better pick up giving the same performance as the 1600w motor using a 700w or 800w motor.

Whether it does i don't know as i've not tried it.

 

[sebo_fan]

Miele claim all sorts of things - as an experienced owner - you have to take everything with a pinch of salt. Personally I find the double pedal AirTeq floor heads don't make much of a difference compared to standard suction combi floor heads.

For the same cost price, SEBO's patented Deluxe Kombi is better in my experience, plus it goes flat to the floor due to its double jointed neck.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I am picking up at John Lewis later today a Felix vogue eco. The colour scheme looks gorgeous. Will post a thread hopefully later today.

 

[marcusprit]

I shall stick with my standard floorhead then Sebo Fan

Oliveoil are you going off the Dyson now then?

 

[sebo_fan]

I thought about buying a new Felix, but to be honest my old one keeps on going. I see no point in buying a new one, though I would be interested to know, obviously what you think of the new Eco motor when you do get it, Oli.

Im ever so happy with my old 360. I initially thought it would be too big for my home but I have been pleasantly surprised. Just does what I want it to do, and has better performance than the X1 due to it having a manual height adjustment.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Ooo let you us know oliveoiltinfoil hoe the new Felix Vogue with the new Eco motor is like sebo_fan says. Be interesting to know how it performs. Not had chance to go and try out these new Eco models from SEBO.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I reserved it today, picking it up tomorrow (it is now 11:05 pm on Friday 31st. Happy Halloween everyone

Hmm, not really, marcusprit. I love the dyson. It cleans wonderfully and is certainly the best bagless vacuum I have used, but since having a lot of family over recently due to my dad passing away, and how much more messy the house has got, and the more often I have had to empty the bin, the less I am liking bagless machines, but I knew this anyway. It is like I said, you cant have it all ways. With bagless vacuums, we know there is this problems, with bags, you have rotting filth for weeks at a time, but having a charcoal filter reduces this a lot I must say. I just love the felix and have never said otherwise.

Yes, the felix has a couple of problems, the dyson does, but the felix is a classic all rounder, can do it all. VW Golf of vacuums - German quality and efficiency in a package a lot of people can use and get hold of, if this makes sense.

I am getting the vogue because the colour scheme looks really nice, and different.

 

[sebo_fan]

So sorry to read your loss, Oli.

 

[madaboutsebo]

Sorry to hear of your loss oliveoiltinfoil. I know where your coming from with regards to emptying a bagless vacuum. Must admit I don't miss emptying one. Your right they both have their issues bag or bagless.

Nice choice the Felix Vogue. Look forward to hearing what you think of the Eco version of the Felix Vogue.