SEBO "Lower Motor" models 2014

[sebo_fan]

SEBO in Germany have updated their website to reflect the 1st of September 2014 cut off/new EU law for lower watts. The UK website hasn't been updated as yet and most of the brochures online haven't yet been updated to reflect the change of the motor watts or new motors.

The following models may not be available in all countries - certainly for example the K series in the UK is often limited in versions.

The X4 and X5 series has 1100 watts down from 1300 watts

The Felix range has a few different motors per spec:

Felix 1/1 Premium has 1175 watts
Felix 2 Premium has 1200 watts
Felix 3 has 1300 watts
Felix 4 Kombi has 1000 watts

Most of the commercial uprights either have 1100/1175 watts or 1300 watts where applicable

Dart commercial upright with "new" 1.2 model with 1175/1200 watts and "Eco" model with 875/900 watts.

SEBO Professional D8 has a 700 watt motor, all other commercial version of the D series cylinders have 1200 watts.

Domestic versions of D series are available with 700 watt/1200 watt - high end D4 models have 700 watts.

SEBO K1 Nero - 1200 watt
SEBO K1 Kombi - 1200 watt
SEBO K1 Kombi 700 - 700 watt
SEBO K1 Coach - 1200 watt
SEBO K1 Eco 700 - 700 watt
SEBO K1 Parquet - 1200 watt
SEBO K1 Turbo - 1200 watt
SEBO K3 Lava (replaces Vulcano) - 700 watt
SEBO K3 Comfort - 1200 watt
SEBO K3 Premium 700 - 700 watt

There's probably others that I have missed, but that's to give you a fair idea.

The Evolution 300 series etc seems to have been temporarily taken off the site.

http://www.sebo.de/en/domestic/products.html

 

[richardc1983]

I'm thinking of getting a sebo but not sure whether to get a x1 or an x4/x5 now as the motor wattages are the same.

 

[turbo500]

Richard, depends if you think the extra £20-£30 is worth it for the additional extension hose and dusting brush. I bought the x1.1 because it was only £175 (although I think it's back up to £199 now) and I wouldn't use the extension hose, having a Dirt Devil Handy for the stairs.

It's worth getting the x4 if you're going to use the extra hose, but if not, go for the cheaper option. There is absolutely no difference in performance between the 2 models.

Also, probably worth mentioning, the 1300w X4 and 1150w X1.1 are both still on sale. I haven't see the new 1100w X series cleaners on sale yet and they're not on the Sebo UK website yet.

 

[richardc1983]

Yeah I hope they are good on picking up cat litter from hard wood flooring and don't just push it around the floor so I have to tilt the vacuum to get it to go over the top of it.

 

[turbo500]

push it around the floor so I have to tilt the vacuum

All uprights do that. I've tried it with both the Sebo X series, Felix, Dyson clutch and ball models, Vax Mach Air and a Panasonic upright. I have to sweep the cat litter into a pile and then suck it up with the hose rather than trying to pick it up straight off the floor. You'd be better off with a cylinder for that.

 

[sebo_fan]

Personally I think you're asking for trouble there with cat litter and any upright vacuum cleaner, particularly SEBO if the metal plate comes into contact with the hard nature of cat litter and scratches the floor.

 

[sebo_fan]

Automatic X4 "ratings"

Look further into SEBO.DE"s website and you can pick up energy ratings through the "Technical" spec of their new models. I am a bit shocked with their ratings for the X series:



http://www.sebo.de/index.php?id=44&...roduct&cHash=aa4eea33e43cd30c9729b6378baa3da1

 

[turbo500]

I think that the Sebo website people have assigned the wrong rating to that cleaner. The comment "not suitable for hardfloors with delivered nozzle" implies a PN cylinder or Felix more than anything else.

 

[richardc1983]

That's not good is it then?

 

[sebo_fan]

We'll have to wait and see - after all, its only the 1st of September 2014.. the ratings of the X5 are slightly better but they also carry a similar phrase for hard floor cleaning.

 

[sebo_fan]

Here's the one for Miele's new 1500 watt S7.

 

[turbo500]

How is it even possible that the X5 has a better rating for energy, despite being exactly the same bloody motor?

Also, C rated carpet pick up for the S7? What an absolute joke!

 

[richardc1983]

And why isn't it suitable for hard floors when that's what they sell it as?

 

[sebo_fan]

Yep.. Its the same with a lot of of the energy labels that have appeared in the last couple of weeks. The ratings are a joke IMHO. Look at the one supplied with a Miele S6 "C3" - a model with a suction only floor head. Hard floor performance rated at C???

 

[turbo500]

Dust emissions B rated with a bog standard air-clean filter, whereas Sebo S class is F rated? What an absolute mess the EU have made of a potentially fantastic piece of legislation! Who do I write to and complain? I'm getting good at doing that in my old age! GET. ME. THE. MANAGER!

 

[sebo_fan]

Tellingly, the Dyson DC50 gets A for hard floor, carpet and emissions according to Very.co.uk but on Argos the model is rated at C for energy. Im puzzled. That's from a 650 watt model that is claimed to be energy efficient!

 

[dys0nb0y]

Have got to say I'm really surprised on the low ratings on Miele and Sebo I got to be right if the on the manufacturers website ???? Well I think it's Dyson And vax for me now

 

[v6jme]

29.08.2014
From September 5th to September 10th the IFA will take place in Berlin. Of course, SEBO Stein & Co will be there presenting its products at its own exhibition stand. Marvin Mueller, Sales Manager: "Our main topic on this year's IFA will be the introduction of the EU regulations concerning the energy consumption labeling of vacuum cleaners. Since this law enters into force on September 1st 2014, we will present our adapted collection of vacuum cleaners. In addition, we will present you a world premiere. Therefore, it is definitely worth visiting us at our exhibition stand in hall 6.1 / stand 109.

 

[sebo_fan]

Did you see the above post? The Dyson isn't rated A for energy efficiency and dust emissions haven't been given. Infact when I went onto the Dyson website this morning, there is no mention on any energy ratings. The specs only reveal weight, air watts and a lot of other non-important info.

As I said in previous responses here, the data that has been given on SEBO Germany's website may be updated in time.

Having a look at Vax's UK website and on their Eco vacuums, they only appear to give an overall rating for energy - there is no mention on carpet, hard floor or emissions data.

In light of the data and in some cases missing data, I think the phrase that springs to mind here is "patience" and also the phrase "benefit of the doubt."

Either way, the EU tags aren't all that important to ME but at the same time I feel sympathy for buyers and less so for the EU who have truly mucked up things.